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Posted by moy23 on 9/29/2017 8:47:00 AM (view original):
Lol.... No kneelers during the anthem at the GB/CHI game. I suspect this will continue. Trump wine

Trump flat out lost this battle. End of story.

Your delusion medication stopped working again.

Explain to me how trump won please...


I believe his stance was that people should not kneel for the anthem. 300 people did that. I believe that this is a failure on his part.

You don't call the overwhelming backlash the NFL and it's players got for kneeling a win for Trump's stance that kneeling during the Anthem is disrespectful?

If so, delusional is absolutely the perfect word for you.

Looks like more people protested. show me results please.

Exactly. What changes in social justice or racial equality did the protests cause?

It's an empty gesture done so rich rich rich athletes can "keep it real" before they head back to their gated communities.

Most of the 300 were actually protesting trump. who caused this problem.

LOL, ALL of the 300 were protesting the Tweeter-in-Chief. It wasn't a protest as much as it was a show of solidarity.

The NFL doesn't like being told things. They think they control things. That's why the three most visible owners this weekend were also the three biggest attention whores.

Exactly. It was the nfls big middle finger to trump.

66644 views! Doug's spirit lives on!

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Most folks with a brain have known a balanced budget was eventually necessary for decades Boris. Not just Ike. Problem was. How to safely attain it and keep funding all the other priorities. As I recall, it took a Democrat....... Bill (Hound-dog) Clinton to FINALLY ACHIEVE a balanced budget!! After DECADES!!!

It took George W and the Congress (majority Repugs.), about 5 minutes to blow a hole the size of Chump's butt times 100 in that concept!
The public has short memories and draws incorrect assumptions based on too little REAL investigation and knowledge.
You be of the public?

So Obama and his Democratic Congress put a stop to those unbalanced Budgets, right?
Either that or increased the debt more than any other President ever.

I believe the Donald is raising our military budget again, making our debt go even higher espescially with the Wall... Did you know we spend more on our military than the next 10 countries behind us?

I would rather Health Care than Bombs

It is not bombs it is innovation. The military also has contracts with 1000s of local government contractors who hire Americans and generate tax revenue. Military inventions are fantastic and compared to enititlements it is nothing in terms of spend. I don't care if we spend 100x than the countries behind us.

The military:

• Keeps us safe
• Generates great new innovative products
• Is responsible for 1000s of jobs to public and private enterprises

An absolutely excellent investment.

Innovation that leads to warfare. Guess what? We spend too much on military. You talk about innovation, but in this day and age we can innovate without military. We don't need to spend this much to stay safe. Other countries prove this. We could do so much more with our excess money if we cut the military, even if we are still spending more than anyone else.

What about the jobs the military creates for the private sector. Companies like Lockheed, do you know how many 100s of subcontractors they use? I absolutely think we need the military for innovation. Apple will not even tell the CIA how to unlock a phone. We need to ensure that we create the best and be first to it. Inventions like the microwave, cell phones and GPS came from the military. There is nothing wrong with being strong and ready to fight. Doesn't mean we have to fight.

Sir, I am curious. What do you do for a living? What is your educational background? I am not trying to be confrontational just trying to garner perspective.

Thank you

I am enjoying this civil debate.

Again, you can reform innovation policy without the military. Why the expensive middleman?

And no, you are wrong on the 'There is nothing wrong with being strong and ready to fight. Doesn't mean we have to fight.' Spending as much as we do SCREAMS 'we want war'. In fact, it helps North Korea justify their military programs. The more we spend, the more others (China, Iran, North Korea) will spend to match us. This is not a good thing. Again, I don't see the issue with still being #1 in the world, just not being a really high #1.

I will tell you if you tell me.

I am a Banker. I lend to large commercial concerns. I have an MBA from a top 40 Business School. I am an independent. I am Jew. I abhor racism and bigotry. I am a father of two kids. I live in Boston.

My opinion is that we need a massive military. An opinion cannot be wrong.

(If you hate racism so much why support republicans...
Donald Trump: My Fans Were Right To Beat Up Black Protester ...
Trump's endorsement of violence reaches new level: He may pay ...
A list of violent incidents at Donald Trump rallies and events.


Also, Trump cannot condemn Nazis and the KKK. If you really care about anti-antisemitism, look at Trump's comments on jewish people (Taking a page out of your book and telling you look it up yourself). Take any race, class, or culture and it is very likely trump has insulted them at some point. Also, why support a guy who can't say, "KKK is bad, I don't want them on my side".

If you are a banker, that explains something, but when you work with people in the lower class you get a new perspective.

I agree that an opinion cannot be 'wrong' but it can be misguided. I think you need to look further into the issues surrounding North Korea. My take is that Kim Jong Un is obviously trying to get Trump to declare war on them, because that is the only way they get China on their side.

A big military is not a better country. If we just cut the military so we are still #1 but not by as much, we WOULD have a massive military. Just not enough to cause economic and debt problems in my opinion and we could spend the money elsewhere (1 option is disaster relief. We need it for Puerto Rico)

Trump's daughter converted to Judaism and there are more than 2 articles. My goodness. We just need to agree to disagree here.

Give me a link to one that clearly shows Obama taking an antisemitic stance

Thanks in advance.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/27/obama-refusal-israel-vote-most-anti-semitic-2016/
https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/03/01/why-were-the-7000-antisemitic-incidents-under-obama-largely-ignored/

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Posted by moy23 on 9/29/2017 8:47:00 AM (view original):
Lol.... No kneelers during the anthem at the GB/CHI game. I suspect this will continue. Trump wine

Trump flat out lost this battle. End of story.

Your delusion medication stopped working again.

Explain to me how trump won please...


I believe his stance was that people should not kneel for the anthem. 300 people did that. I believe that this is a failure on his part.

You don't call the overwhelming backlash the NFL and it's players got for kneeling a win for Trump's stance that kneeling during the Anthem is disrespectful?

If so, delusional is absolutely the perfect word for you.

Looks like more people protested. show me results please.

Exactly. What changes in social justice or racial equality did the protests cause?

It's an empty gesture done so rich rich rich athletes can "keep it real" before they head back to their gated communities.

Most of the 300 were actually protesting trump. who caused this problem.

You keep beating that anti Trump drum. It is most interesting.

Friendly Reminder: 7,000 Anti-Semitic Incidents Occurred Under Obama’s Presidency And The Media Was Silent. Why?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/03/06/friendly-reminder-7000-antisemitic-incidents-occurred-under-obamas-presidency-and-the-media-was-silent-why-n2294553
So, anti-Semitic incidents occured while Obama was in office and that makes him an anti-Semite? Anti-semitic incidents are still occurring so Trump must be an anti -semite as well. Matter of fact, all presidents must be anti-semites using that logic, since I doubt there were many times anti-Semitic incidents did not occur while someone was president.
By the way, I'm not saying Obama is or isn't an anti-Semite, just questioning your logic.

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Posted by moy23 on 9/29/2017 8:47:00 AM (view original):
Lol.... No kneelers during the anthem at the GB/CHI game. I suspect this will continue. Trump wine

How did Trump win? The only way Trump wins is if the number of people who kneel this season are less than last season... How much you want to bet that wont be true...

trump not wine.

If a player wants the privilege of making millions of dollars in the NFL,or other leagues, he or she should not be allowed to disrespect.......our Great American Flag (or Country) and should stand for the National Anthem. If not, YOU'RE FIRED. Find something else to do!

Roger Goodell of NFL just put out a statement trying to justify the total disrespect certain players show to our country.Tell them to stand!


Great solidarity for our National Anthem and for our Country. Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable. Bad ratings!



The booing at the NFL football game last night, when the entire Dallas team dropped to its knees, was loudest I have ever heard. Great anger. But while Dallas dropped to its knees as a team, they all stood up for our National Anthem. Big progress being made-we all love our country!







^^^^They are doing exactly like Trump requested of them.

Once again, moy, I have to point out to you that just because you, or Trump or anyone else is of the opinion that kneeling for the anthem is disrespectful, that does not make it a fact. Doesn't matter how many millions agree with you. It is still just your opinion.

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Friendly Reminder: 7,000 Anti-Semitic Incidents Occurred Under Obama’s Presidency And The Media Was Silent. Why?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/03/06/friendly-reminder-7000-antisemitic-incidents-occurred-under-obamas-presidency-and-the-media-was-silent-why-n2294553
So, anti-Semitic incidents occured while Obama was in office and that makes him an anti-Semite? Anti-semitic incidents are still occurring so Trump must be an anti -semite as well. Matter of fact, all presidents must be anti-semites using that logic, since I doubt there were many times anti-Semitic incidents did not occur while someone was president.
By the way, I'm not saying Obama is or isn't an anti-Semite, just questioning your logic.

He was the most unfriendly President toward Israel in US History. Israel is the only Jewish state. Meanwhile he was more friendly toward Libya and Iran. You tell me how I should perceive that?

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Posted by moy23 on 9/29/2017 8:47:00 AM (view original):
Lol.... No kneelers during the anthem at the GB/CHI game. I suspect this will continue. Trump wine

How did Trump win? The only way Trump wins is if the number of people who kneel this season are less than last season... How much you want to bet that wont be true...

trump not wine.

If a player wants the privilege of making millions of dollars in the NFL,or other leagues, he or she should not be allowed to disrespect.......our Great American Flag (or Country) and should stand for the National Anthem. If not, YOU'RE FIRED. Find something else to do!

Roger Goodell of NFL just put out a statement trying to justify the total disrespect certain players show to our country.Tell them to stand!


Great solidarity for our National Anthem and for our Country. Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable. Bad ratings!



The booing at the NFL football game last night, when the entire Dallas team dropped to its knees, was loudest I have ever heard. Great anger. But while Dallas dropped to its knees as a team, they all stood up for our National Anthem. Big progress being made-we all love our country!







^^^^They are doing exactly like Trump requested of them.

Once again, moy, I have to point out to you that just because you, or Trump or anyone else is of the opinion that kneeling for the anthem is disrespectful, that does not make it a fact. Doesn't matter how many millions agree with you. It is still just your opinion.

That is true. I just don't understand the basis of this protest.

Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke used a private plane owned by oil-and-gas executives to take a chartered flight from Las Vegas to get to his home in Montana over the summer, The Washington Post reports.

Zinke took the flight in June, from Las Vegas to Kalispell, Montana, using the private plane owned by executives in Wyoming-based oil-and-gas exploration firm Nielson & Associates at a cost of $12,375 to taxpayers, according to business records obtained by the paper.

Commercial flights from Las Vegas to that region of Montana run daily and cost around $300.

How will the US ever survive losing out on $12k?

Leftist tears are delicious.

People are concerned about the corruption. Not necessarily the amount of money.

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Posted by moy23 on 9/29/2017 8:47:00 AM (view original):
Lol.... No kneelers during the anthem at the GB/CHI game. I suspect this will continue. Trump wine

How did Trump win? The only way Trump wins is if the number of people who kneel this season are less than last season... How much you want to bet that wont be true...

trump not wine.

If a player wants the privilege of making millions of dollars in the NFL,or other leagues, he or she should not be allowed to disrespect.......our Great American Flag (or Country) and should stand for the National Anthem. If not, YOU'RE FIRED. Find something else to do!

Roger Goodell of NFL just put out a statement trying to justify the total disrespect certain players show to our country.Tell them to stand!


Great solidarity for our National Anthem and for our Country. Standing with locked arms is good, kneeling is not acceptable. Bad ratings!



The booing at the NFL football game last night, when the entire Dallas team dropped to its knees, was loudest I have ever heard. Great anger. But while Dallas dropped to its knees as a team, they all stood up for our National Anthem. Big progress being made-we all love our country!







^^^^They are doing exactly like Trump requested of them.

Once again, moy, I have to point out to you that just because you, or Trump or anyone else is of the opinion that kneeling for the anthem is disrespectful, that does not make it a fact. Doesn't matter how many millions agree with you. It is still just your opinion.

That is true. I just don't understand the basis of this protest.

On Sunday it was About defying trump. How many times do we need to repeat this.

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Posted by moy23 on 9/29/2017 8:47:00 AM (view original):
Lol.... No kneelers during the anthem at the GB/CHI game. I suspect this will continue. Trump wine

Trump flat out lost this battle. End of story.

Your delusion medication stopped working again.

Explain to me how trump won please...


I believe his stance was that people should not kneel for the anthem. 300 people did that. I believe that this is a failure on his part.

You don't call the overwhelming backlash the NFL and it's players got for kneeling a win for Trump's stance that kneeling during the Anthem is disrespectful?

If so, delusional is absolutely the perfect word for you.

Looks like more people protested. show me results please.

Exactly. What changes in social justice or racial equality did the protests cause?

It's an empty gesture done so rich rich rich athletes can "keep it real" before they head back to their gated communities.

Most of the 300 were actually protesting trump. who caused this problem.

You keep beating that anti Trump drum. It is most interesting.

"You keep beating that Anti-Hitler drum... It is most interesting. Jewish tears are delicious."

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2017 3:06:00 PM (view original):
Most folks with a brain have known a balanced budget was eventually necessary for decades Boris. Not just Ike. Problem was. How to safely attain it and keep funding all the other priorities. As I recall, it took a Democrat....... Bill (Hound-dog) Clinton to FINALLY ACHIEVE a balanced budget!! After DECADES!!!

It took George W and the Congress (majority Repugs.), about 5 minutes to blow a hole the size of Chump's butt times 100 in that concept!
The public has short memories and draws incorrect assumptions based on too little REAL investigation and knowledge.
You be of the public?

So Obama and his Democratic Congress put a stop to those unbalanced Budgets, right?
Either that or increased the debt more than any other President ever.

I believe the Donald is raising our military budget again, making our debt go even higher espescially with the Wall... Did you know we spend more on our military than the next 10 countries behind us?

I would rather Health Care than Bombs

It is not bombs it is innovation. The military also has contracts with 1000s of local government contractors who hire Americans and generate tax revenue. Military inventions are fantastic and compared to enititlements it is nothing in terms of spend. I don't care if we spend 100x than the countries behind us.

The military:

• Keeps us safe
• Generates great new innovative products
• Is responsible for 1000s of jobs to public and private enterprises

An absolutely excellent investment.

Innovation that leads to warfare. Guess what? We spend too much on military. You talk about innovation, but in this day and age we can innovate without military. We don't need to spend this much to stay safe. Other countries prove this. We could do so much more with our excess money if we cut the military, even if we are still spending more than anyone else.

What about the jobs the military creates for the private sector. Companies like Lockheed, do you know how many 100s of subcontractors they use? I absolutely think we need the military for innovation. Apple will not even tell the CIA how to unlock a phone. We need to ensure that we create the best and be first to it. Inventions like the microwave, cell phones and GPS came from the military. There is nothing wrong with being strong and ready to fight. Doesn't mean we have to fight.

Sir, I am curious. What do you do for a living? What is your educational background? I am not trying to be confrontational just trying to garner perspective.

Thank you

I am enjoying this civil debate.

Again, you can reform innovation policy without the military. Why the expensive middleman?

And no, you are wrong on the 'There is nothing wrong with being strong and ready to fight. Doesn't mean we have to fight.' Spending as much as we do SCREAMS 'we want war'. In fact, it helps North Korea justify their military programs. The more we spend, the more others (China, Iran, North Korea) will spend to match us. This is not a good thing. Again, I don't see the issue with still being #1 in the world, just not being a really high #1.

I will tell you if you tell me.

I am a Banker. I lend to large commercial concerns. I have an MBA from a top 40 Business School. I am an independent. I am Jew. I abhor racism and bigotry. I am a father of two kids. I live in Boston.

My opinion is that we need a massive military. An opinion cannot be wrong.

(If you hate racism so much why support republicans...
Donald Trump: My Fans Were Right To Beat Up Black Protester ...
Trump's endorsement of violence reaches new level: He may pay ...
A list of violent incidents at Donald Trump rallies and events.


Also, Trump cannot condemn Nazis and the KKK. If you really care about anti-antisemitism, look at Trump's comments on jewish people (Taking a page out of your book and telling you look it up yourself). Take any race, class, or culture and it is very likely trump has insulted them at some point. Also, why support a guy who can't say, "KKK is bad, I don't want them on my side".

If you are a banker, that explains something, but when you work with people in the lower class you get a new perspective.

I agree that an opinion cannot be 'wrong' but it can be misguided. I think you need to look further into the issues surrounding North Korea. My take is that Kim Jong Un is obviously trying to get Trump to declare war on them, because that is the only way they get China on their side.

A big military is not a better country. If we just cut the military so we are still #1 but not by as much, we WOULD have a massive military. Just not enough to cause economic and debt problems in my opinion and we could spend the money elsewhere (1 option is disaster relief. We need it for Puerto Rico)

Trump's daughter converted to Judaism and there are more than 2 articles. My goodness. We just need to agree to disagree here.

Give me a link to one that clearly shows Obama taking an antisemitic stance

Thanks in advance.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/27/obama-refusal-israel-vote-most-anti-semitic-2016/
https://www.algemeiner.com/2017/03/01/why-were-the-7000-antisemitic-incidents-under-obama-largely-ignored/

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Trump has had anti semetic things happen under his presidency. That logic is ridiculous.

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Posted by wylie715 on 9/29/2017 12:44:00 PM (view original):

Friendly Reminder: 7,000 Anti-Semitic Incidents Occurred Under Obama’s Presidency And The Media Was Silent. Why?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/03/06/friendly-reminder-7000-antisemitic-incidents-occurred-under-obamas-presidency-and-the-media-was-silent-why-n2294553
So, anti-Semitic incidents occured while Obama was in office and that makes him an anti-Semite? Anti-semitic incidents are still occurring so Trump must be an anti -semite as well. Matter of fact, all presidents must be anti-semites using that logic, since I doubt there were many times anti-Semitic incidents did not occur while someone was president.
By the way, I'm not saying Obama is or isn't an anti-Semite, just questioning your logic.

He was the most unfriendly President toward Israel in US History. Israel is the only Jewish state. Meanwhile he was more friendly toward Libya and Iran. You tell me how I should perceive that?

....That Israel is a country, not a religion... So any countries that are against the USA are anti-Christian? Your logic is faulted here... Maybe it was because Israel could cause nuclear war and are invading and killing civilians? Just a thought...


nah, Obama is such a racist.