Yeah... I'm doing this one in fits and starts, just doing some general poking around while I wait for clarification.

Apologies, guys. Have been putting in 90+ hour weeks at work, looks like I screwed up the example team after the second player (never do anything in 20 minutes that deserves longer).

The TLDR for this theme is as follows: I start the chain with 1887 John Kerins, who played for the Louisville Colonels. I take one other player who played for the 1887 Louisville Colonels (Elton Chamberlain), and twist them to another season of their career (in this case 1888). I then use that season, 1888 Elton Chamberlain of the St. Louis Browns, and twist a member of the 1888 St. Louis Browns, and repeat this process until I have 25 players.

Unfortunately, in my example, I used Lave Cross, who did not play on the 1888 St. Louis Browns but instead played with Elton Chamberlain in 1891, when they were both members of the Philadephia Athletics, and then proceeded in that fashion instead. This is incorrect. I am deleting the example team to avoid any, rightful, further confusion and will post a (correct) example later today.

ok - and we have to ensure that Kerins was not on the 1888 Colonels as well right (or any twisted version of a future teammate)?...that deals with the "shared teammates" concept?...or is there a further restriction?

That makes more sense and is in line with the description given.

So basically:

Drafted Player
1900 Pirates - Player A
1904 Cubs - Player B (teammate of Player A on 1900 Pirates)
1914 Red Sox - Player C (teammate of Player B on 1904 Cubs)
1927 Yankees - Player D (teammate of Player C on 1914 Red Sox)
etc., etc., etc.

Each player you draft, you select a teammate of his from the same team/year, and then twist that teammate forward.

And no player can have been a teammate of more than one other player on your roster at any point in his career.

Posted by mildnhazy on 10/2/2017 1:02:00 PM (view original):
ok - and we have to ensure that Kerins was not on the 1888 Colonels as well right (or any twisted version of a future teammate)?...that deals with the "shared teammates" concept?...or is there a further restriction?

Correct. If Kerins had played with Chamberlain for the 1888 St. Louis Browns, you would not be able to use that season of Chamberlain's.

Posted by Jtpsops on 10/2/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
That makes more sense and is in line with the description given.

So basically:

Drafted Player
1900 Pirates - Player A
1904 Cubs - Player B (teammate of Player A on 1900 Pirates)
1914 Red Sox - Player C (teammate of Player B on 1904 Cubs)
1927 Yankees - Player D (teammate of Player C on 1914 Red Sox)
etc., etc., etc.

Each player you draft, you select a teammate of his from the same team/year, and then twist that teammate forward.

And no player can have been a teammate of more than one other player on your roster at any point in his career.

Correct except the last line. If Player A played with Player B, C, or D during any OTHER years than the ones you selected to use (i.e. maybe on the 1902 Giants), that is ok. It would be pretty impossible to make a chain with 25 guys who only ever played one season together.

Using 1887 Kerins. Chamberlain is twisted from 1887 Colonels to 1888 Browns. O'Neill is twisted from 1888 Browns to 1890 Pirates. Duffy is twisted from 1890 Pirates to 1894 Beaneaters. Nichols is twisted from 1894 Beaneaters to 1901 Beaneaters. Barry is twisted from 1901 Beaneaters to 1908 Giants. Mathewson is twisted from 1908 Giants to 1909 Giants (Barry stopped playing after 1908). Repeat til you have 25 players

Player	Season Used	Teammate
John Kerins	1887 Louisville Colonels	Elton Chamberlain
Elton Chamberlain	1888 St. Louis Browns	Tip O'Neill
Tip O'Neill	1890 Chicago Pirates	Hugh Duffy
Hugh Duffy	1894 Boston Beaneaters	Kid Nichols
Kid Nichols	1901 Boston Beaneaters	Shad Barry
Shad Barry	1908 New York Giants	Christy Mathewson
Christy Mathewson	1909 New York Giants	etc, etc.

Posted by ozomatli on 10/2/2017 1:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Jtpsops on 10/2/2017 1:04:00 PM (view original):
That makes more sense and is in line with the description given.

So basically:

Drafted Player
1900 Pirates - Player A
1904 Cubs - Player B (teammate of Player A on 1900 Pirates)
1914 Red Sox - Player C (teammate of Player B on 1904 Cubs)
1927 Yankees - Player D (teammate of Player C on 1914 Red Sox)
etc., etc., etc.

Each player you draft, you select a teammate of his from the same team/year, and then twist that teammate forward.

And no player can have been a teammate of more than one other player on your roster at any point in his career.

Correct except the last line. If Player A played with Player B, C, or D during any OTHER years than the ones you selected to use (i.e. maybe on the 1902 Giants), that is ok. It would be pretty impossible to make a chain with 25 guys who only ever played one season together.

I'm trying to decide if this "If Player A played with Player B, C, or D during any OTHER years than the ones you selected to use (i.e. maybe on the 1902 Giants), that is ok. It would be pretty impossible to make a chain with 25 guys who only ever played one season together." changes anything about what I thought. I don't think it does. Hope I'm right.

I'm reading it as "You can pick guys like Garvey and Cey. You just can't have Lopes and Russell on the team too. But if you want to chain to a Padre (Garvey) or a Cub (Cey), that's ok."

I think I understand it now and maybe this explanation is helpful (or not):
You start with any player - he is Player A for your sim team. His real life team is Team 1. Once you have selected Player A you look at his team (Team 1) and select a teammate that you will twist into a future version - that will be Player B. The real life team of Player B is Team 2. You then select a teammate of Player B on team 2 and twist that player into a future version - that will be Player C. This player CANNOT have played with Player A. He is "chained" to Player A only via Player B. Player C's real life team is Team 3 - which is where you choose your next "to be twisted" player from, etc... Player D cannot have played with Player B, only Player C, etc....

Sooo...it looks like pricing changes are pushed back till next week. I really don't want to push things back because a lot of owners can't build teams over Thanksgiving, but this is definitely going to cause issues.

Agreed on both counts. Once the top 24 are finalized this weekend, I'll see if five weeks is too small of a window for anyone. With the draft going on, I'd understand if it was and, if so, we'll reevaluate.

$255m Divisions aligned by group. Are leagues aligned by group too or random?

oh, and other than the draft I'm not even looking at roosters until after the update. even though that came back to haunt me last year.
EDIT: I was going to edit my typo "rooster" but it's funnier to leave it.

Here they come to draft the rooster, oh yeah

I apologize in advance for the amount of times you will have to check my rosters.