If a recruit has a preference of strong conference or even coaches success, what is the advantage for a B-ish prestige D1 conference or prestige over a A+ D2 conference or A+ prestige?

In other words, When the recruit wants a strong conference as a recruiting preference... a D1 good conference is considerably better than a top D2 conference. A Coach with a D1 B prestige is considersbly more prestigious than a D2 A+ prestige coach.

So what is the preference advantage in these types of scenarios?
Does the D1 B conference get a "good" while the A+ D2 conference gets a neutral?

My D2 Tark Conference is a B presitge with an RPI of just about .62. It is the #1 ranked conference in D2. We get a VERY GOOD for the strong conference strength.
My D1 Rupp Conference is a C+ prestige with and RPI of around .55. It is the #2 ranked conference in D1 We get GOOD.

Strong conference is based upon the conf prestige at start of season.

If two teams have a conf prestige of A then both get a Very Good for example. The multiplier is the same regardless of division.

The higher division gets an additional division multiplier AFTER this preference calculation happens.

Not how I would set it up but that's what we got.

“If two teams have a conf prestige of A then both get a Very Good for example. The multiplier is the same regardless of division.

The higher division gets an additional division multiplier AFTER this preference calculation happens.”

Sort of, but a single preference is a small piece of the puzzle. The prestige modifier affects all the other modifiers, and that’s where the division difference matters - an A+ D2 School is treated essentially as a F+ D1. It’s misleading to describe in terms of “an additional division multiplier”, they are not equivalent modifiers in scope.

Posted by shoe3 on 10/24/2017 11:06:00 AM (view original):
“If two teams have a conf prestige of A then both get a Very Good for example. The multiplier is the same regardless of division.

The higher division gets an additional division multiplier AFTER this preference calculation happens.”

Sort of, but a single preference is a small piece of the puzzle. The prestige modifier affects all the other modifiers, and that’s where the division difference matters - an A+ D2 School is treated essentially as a F+ D1. It’s misleading to describe in terms of “an additional division multiplier”, they are not equivalent modifiers in scope.

I don't think this is correct.

It sounds like you're describing it to work like this

But I think it actually works like this

Seble told us a few things - he didn't change the impact of prestige and there is no overlap of prestige between divisions. I also remember during Beta when Mully was commenting that D2 was beating D1 too often (and most people agreed). Seble said "it sounds like you guys want a bigger division multiplier". Meaning, beyond what prestige multiplier there is (which never changed from 2.0), there is another multiplier effect going on to give another bonus to higher division teams.

Whether it’s linear, as in the first image, or if there’s a little extra stratified bump, as in the second, the point is that the prestige modifier done at the end of the calculation provides that division adjustment for every factor within. I am not making an argument in favor of one image or the other - to my knowledge, it’s never been disclosed, so it would be speculative anyway. I’m clarifying that it’s not a matter of two little modifiers canceling each other out. One exists within the larger context of the other.

I never meant to imply the prestige or division multiplier was equivalent to one of the preferences.

But I still think what you're saying about a D2 team essentially being treated as an F+ D1 team is incorrect.

So the preference modifier on coach prestige or conference strength is smaller for the D1 school than the D2 school?
In other words, in the aforementioned example, D2 gets a greater multiplier than the D1 school? (It's a better conference or more prestigious school?)
That makes zero sense, but makes perfect sense in the 3.0 world we live in.

Posted by stewdog on 10/24/2017 4:08:00 PM (view original):
So the preference modifier on coach prestige or conference strength is smaller for the D1 school than the D2 school?
In other words, in the aforementioned example, D2 gets a greater multiplier than the D1 school? (It's a better conference or more prestigious school?)
That makes zero sense, but makes perfect sense in the 3.0 world we live in.

No, that’s not what any of this means.

Look at it this way: a recruit with one single preference of conference strength has two teams put in 10 APs. One is a D2 powerhouse that plays in a full conference, with an A+ prestige. This team gets the very good modifier for the single preference. The second team is a weaker Big 6 conference C+ level also-ran. This team may only get a good modifier for the single preference.

I’m very confident that the 10 points from the D1 school will be worth quite a bit more than the 10 points from the D2 school. IOW, it will take more attention to unlock actions, and if effort is equal, the C+ D1 team will probably keep the D2 team out of signing range. The conference modifier might mitigate the wide prestige difference slightly, but it will not make up for it. The C+ prestige of the D1 far outpaces the single slight preference advantage.

Posted by shoe3 on 10/24/2017 4:47:00 PM (view original):

Posted by stewdog on 10/24/2017 4:08:00 PM (view original):
So the preference modifier on coach prestige or conference strength is smaller for the D1 school than the D2 school?
In other words, in the aforementioned example, D2 gets a greater multiplier than the D1 school? (It's a better conference or more prestigious school?)
That makes zero sense, but makes perfect sense in the 3.0 world we live in.

No, that’s not what any of this means.

Look at it this way: a recruit with one single preference of conference strength has two teams put in 10 APs. One is a D2 powerhouse that plays in a full conference, with an A+ prestige. This team gets the very good modifier for the single preference. The second team is a weaker Big 6 conference C+ level also-ran. This team may only get a good modifier for the single preference.

I’m very confident that the 10 points from the D1 school will be worth quite a bit more than the 10 points from the D2 school. IOW, it will take more attention to unlock actions, and if effort is equal, the C+ D1 team will probably keep the D2 team out of signing range. The conference modifier might mitigate the wide prestige difference slightly, but it will not make up for it. The C+ prestige of the D1 far outpaces the single slight preference advantage.

Obviously the D1 gets advantages elsewhere...
But we are saying the recruit thinks the great D2 conference is better than the PAC-10 as far as preference goes?
Again... that would only make sense in 3.0, but you're saying that's our new reality?
SMH

Exactly Stewdog. No one is saying the D2 team would now beat out the D1 team with just 1 preference advantage.

But bottom line - some of the preferences (wants to play, wants success and conference strength) are not very intelligent.

All it means is that the formula is not counting the division difference for every separate preference. It’s all factored in the prestige modifier. So basically, the system is not compounding the advantage. Its both more realistic, and makes a more competitive game.

Its not more realistic.

Stewdog is quitting anyway so it doesn't matter.

Right, stewdog?

This is a intelligent conversation on how the game works Mike, go be right somewhere else.

I beg you to now not quote some line from here and go "this is intelligent?". Your schtick is old and tired and easily anticipated. Since you are not going away at least try to contain it to threads that aren't valuable.