Posted by tangplay on 1/3/2018 11:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/3/2018 10:34:00 PM (view original):
tangplay is incredible. Every time I prove something to him with facts, he argues back with idiotic emotions.

tangplay: What do you mean poor people should not have kids because they cannot afford them? That is so wroooooong.

IDIOT!!!!

Wait, so when I use something with facts, like say abortion (or was that strikeout) or all the info I gave to you with white privilege, it is fake news and you ignore it, but when YOU supposedly 'prove something' (You almost never do, usually you just call me an idiot and make flawed arguments), I am the one with the emotions. I truly think that saying that poor people should not have kids is a terrible thing to say. YOU. WOULD. NOT. BE. BORN. Neither would I.

My parents were not poor when I was born. They moved to this country when I was very young and DID NOT HAVE ANY MORE KIDS because they could not afford them. See. If you cannot afford kids DO NOT HAVE THEM!

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 11:24:00 AM (view original):
Trump-haters were expecting record lows over the summer?
Pretty sure last week, coupled with next week, will close greatly close that 3-1 gap being touted last page, and we still have the 2 coldest months of Winter remaining ahead.
Again, just another thing for those haters to try to criticize Trump about, that makes them look like raving loons.

I have no idea why you are attributing people concerned with global warming to "Trump haters". The global warming crew has been around way before Trump was in office. People criticizing Trump do so because it's obvious he has no clue as to the difference between weather and climate.

When you are seeing record highs and record lows in the same year, I think one can start to rightfully look to abnormal disruptions in the natural order of things.

Here's the thing, like all3 said there's a very slim chance that anyone on this site can begin to understand climatology, But like Taint said, better safe than sorry. I have no idea the impact that humans have on the climate, but when I drive into Atlanta it's filled with pollution. There's no way that is good for our environment, so this leads me to believe that humans do have a pretty large effect on the climate.

A problem both sides run into are with extremists. The right has there group that says "climate change is a farce." Let's be real. Climate change is real. The causes and impact are up for debate, but it's real. The left has their extremists also that are hurting the cause. California is a great example of this. Both sides need to use some common sense on the issue.

Right wingers grasping at straws to blame liberals for everything. NEWSFLASH No liberals blame Trump for Climate Change!

Thinking humans of all stripes will blame the "fools" who ignored the obvious factual evidence because it didn't fit their political narrative.
Your OWN Grandchild will blame YOU for not believing the facts and attempting to mitigate a serious problem.
The taxpayers will blame the Repugs. when they are having to foot the bill for the relocation (and water resistant construction) of multiple military bases, and abandonment of seaside communities.

The region of No. Arizona (Colorado Plateau Region) just completed the driest quarter in recorded HISTORY on 12/31/2017.
Still no snow anywhere in sight in Flagstaff (one of the 10 snowiest cities in the U.S.--historically). The state just completed our 3rd straight warmest year record in a row!!
Non-acceptors of the FACT of climate change are self absorbed fools stealing from their Grandchildren.
Just like the Republican party stealing from their Grandchildren to give tax breaks to their benefactors!

The evil doers masquerading as middle class friendly Repugs. will pay the price quite soon!
Sheep are stupid. Not all humans are. SOME will wake up and realize they're being sheared.
When that occurs they wont stand for it. The shaky "governing alliance" now in place (out of necessity) between the fruit-cake WH and the traditional Repugs. still in Congress will bust into full fledged civil war delivering the Gov't in FULL measure to the Dumbocrats!!

That's when things really go bad!!
Don't you folks read history books?

BTW. Happy New Year!! We better enjoy every one we got left!

Posted by laramiebob on 1/4/2018 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Right wingers grasping at straws to blame liberals for everything. NEWSFLASH No liberals blame Trump for Climate Change!

Thinking humans of all stripes will blame the "fools" who ignored the obvious factual evidence because it didn't fit their political narrative.
Your OWN Grandchild will blame YOU for not believing the facts and attempting to mitigate a serious problem.
The taxpayers will blame the Repugs. when they are having to foot the bill for the relocation (and water resistant construction) of multiple military bases, and abandonment of seaside communities.

The region of No. Arizona (Colorado Plateau Region) just completed the driest quarter in recorded HISTORY on 12/31/2017.
Still no snow anywhere in sight in Flagstaff (one of the 10 snowiest cities in the U.S.--historically). The state just completed our 3rd straight warmest year record in a row!!
Non-acceptors of the FACT of climate change are self absorbed fools stealing from their Grandchildren.
Just like the Republican party stealing from their Grandchildren to give tax breaks to their benefactors!

The evil doers masquerading as middle class friendly Repugs. will pay the price quite soon!
Sheep are stupid. Not all humans are. SOME will wake up and realize they're being sheared.
When that occurs they wont stand for it. The shaky "governing alliance" now in place (out of necessity) between the fruit-cake WH and the traditional Repugs. still in Congress will bust into full fledged civil war delivering the Gov't in FULL measure to the Dumbocrats!!

That's when things really go bad!!
Don't you folks read history books?

BTW. Happy New Year!! We better enjoy every one we got left!

I'm a big believer in climate change. The next big Ice Age is coming. These warm spells only last about 20,000 years.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 12:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/3/2018 11:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/3/2018 11:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/3/2018 10:34:00 PM (view original):
tangplay is incredible. Every time I prove something to him with facts, he argues back with idiotic emotions.

tangplay: What do you mean poor people should not have kids because they cannot afford them? That is so wroooooong.

IDIOT!!!!

Wait, so when I use something with facts, like say abortion (or was that strikeout) or all the info I gave to you with white privilege, it is fake news and you ignore it, but when YOU supposedly 'prove something' (You almost never do, usually you just call me an idiot and make flawed arguments), I am the one with the emotions. I truly think that saying that poor people should not have kids is a terrible thing to say. YOU. WOULD. NOT. BE. BORN. Neither would I.

We had the abortion discussion. Cccp is pro choice (I think).

There is nothing wrong with poor people having children as long as they are prepared to provide. My wife's father worked 3 jobs to provide. He didn't accept government assistance. He earned his way. If you have to rely on government funding to care for a child, you shouldn't be having them.

I am pro choice. tangplay is grasping at straws now. Hilarious. I am not a conservative. I am pro choice, an atheist and anti high salaries for CEOs who get rid of 25 year employees. Again I am logical not conservative. But I am also for free speech and idiot Liberals rally against anyone coming to their university with an opposing point of view. Stupid *** kids.

You make such a big deal about being Jewish, but you're an atheist???

Posted by The Taint on 1/4/2018 12:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 11:24:00 AM (view original):
Trump-haters were expecting record lows over the summer?
Pretty sure last week, coupled with next week, will close greatly close that 3-1 gap being touted last page, and we still have the 2 coldest months of Winter remaining ahead.
Again, just another thing for those haters to try to criticize Trump about, that makes them look like raving loons.

I have no idea why you are attributing people concerned with global warming to "Trump haters". The global warming crew has been around way before Trump was in office. People criticizing Trump do so because it's obvious he has no clue as to the difference between weather and climate.

When you are seeing record highs and record lows in the same year, I think one can start to rightfully look to abnormal disruptions in the natural order of things.

BHO was beyond reproach but he made many mistake in his eight years. At least in my opinion he did. Why do you think he was not criticized publicly? Double standard?

Posted by wylie715 on 1/4/2018 1:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 12:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/3/2018 11:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/3/2018 11:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/3/2018 10:34:00 PM (view original):
tangplay is incredible. Every time I prove something to him with facts, he argues back with idiotic emotions.

tangplay: What do you mean poor people should not have kids because they cannot afford them? That is so wroooooong.

IDIOT!!!!

Wait, so when I use something with facts, like say abortion (or was that strikeout) or all the info I gave to you with white privilege, it is fake news and you ignore it, but when YOU supposedly 'prove something' (You almost never do, usually you just call me an idiot and make flawed arguments), I am the one with the emotions. I truly think that saying that poor people should not have kids is a terrible thing to say. YOU. WOULD. NOT. BE. BORN. Neither would I.

We had the abortion discussion. Cccp is pro choice (I think).

There is nothing wrong with poor people having children as long as they are prepared to provide. My wife's father worked 3 jobs to provide. He didn't accept government assistance. He earned his way. If you have to rely on government funding to care for a child, you shouldn't be having them.

I am pro choice. tangplay is grasping at straws now. Hilarious. I am not a conservative. I am pro choice, an atheist and anti high salaries for CEOs who get rid of 25 year employees. Again I am logical not conservative. But I am also for free speech and idiot Liberals rally against anyone coming to their university with an opposing point of view. Stupid *** kids.

You make such a big deal about being Jewish, but you're an atheist???

Jewish is the culture to me not the religion.

There is climate change but I am not sure what percentage is due to man vs. natural Earth, etc. China is one of the biggest polluters on Earth but I think in the US we are trying to be better about it via recycling, energy efficient appliances, solar power and electric cars. My issues with the Liberals is that they do not like to debate they always go to the emotional side and call me racist, white supremacist, insensitive, etc. Impossible to have a logical argument when you start throwing emo darts.

Posted by DougOut on 1/4/2018 1:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 1/4/2018 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Right wingers grasping at straws to blame liberals for everything. NEWSFLASH No liberals blame Trump for Climate Change!

Thinking humans of all stripes will blame the "fools" who ignored the obvious factual evidence because it didn't fit their political narrative.
Your OWN Grandchild will blame YOU for not believing the facts and attempting to mitigate a serious problem.
The taxpayers will blame the Repugs. when they are having to foot the bill for the relocation (and water resistant construction) of multiple military bases, and abandonment of seaside communities.

The region of No. Arizona (Colorado Plateau Region) just completed the driest quarter in recorded HISTORY on 12/31/2017.
Still no snow anywhere in sight in Flagstaff (one of the 10 snowiest cities in the U.S.--historically). The state just completed our 3rd straight warmest year record in a row!!
Non-acceptors of the FACT of climate change are self absorbed fools stealing from their Grandchildren.
Just like the Republican party stealing from their Grandchildren to give tax breaks to their benefactors!

The evil doers masquerading as middle class friendly Repugs. will pay the price quite soon!
Sheep are stupid. Not all humans are. SOME will wake up and realize they're being sheared.
When that occurs they wont stand for it. The shaky "governing alliance" now in place (out of necessity) between the fruit-cake WH and the traditional Repugs. still in Congress will bust into full fledged civil war delivering the Gov't in FULL measure to the Dumbocrats!!

That's when things really go bad!!
Don't you folks read history books?

BTW. Happy New Year!! We better enjoy every one we got left!

I'm a big believer in climate change. The next big Ice Age is coming. These warm spells only last about 20,000 years.

Laugh all you want Dougie. Once in a great while I find you amusing. But then a wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse............

For the purposes of tolerance, I'll chock this one up to a poor attempt at a joke.
You can explain your flippancy and unconcern to your own Grand Children.

On this point I find you booring.......... not amusing.
The facts are clearly in and there IS a word for those who choose to ignore reality.

Rather than name call, I'll just point out that voices shown to be foolish are just ignored by those that know better.
Ask anyone.......... see IF you get an answer.

Obama was criticized by many publicly. Many of his own party were disillusioned that he was not lefty enough and it wasn't hard to find articles/opinion pieces that said as much. Especially when it came to health care reform(lack of single payer option), drone attacks, being in bed with big business(the numbers don't lie that big biz killed it during Obama's tenure), lack of lobbyist reform, the stimulus didn't go far enough, lack of infrastructure upgrades...you can go on and on.

The big difference between the two is that Obama wasn't an inarticulate tool that couldn't put two sentences together, like Trump is. Look at all the things coming out about Trump...he didn't want to be president...he saw it as a way to make more money, and that's all that he cares about. Enriching him and his family and friends. Trump is a blowhard who makes everything about himself. That's his problem.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 2:02:00 PM (view original):
There is climate change but I am not sure what percentage is due to man vs. natural Earth, etc. China is one of the biggest polluters on Earth but I think in the US we are trying to be better about it via recycling, energy efficient appliances, solar power and electric cars. My issues with the Liberals is that they do not like to debate they always go to the emotional side and call me racist, white supremacist, insensitive, etc. Impossible to have a logical argument when you start throwing emo darts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/world/asia/china-renewable-energy-investment.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-12-08/china-goes-all-in-on-the-transit-revolution





China is quickly moving to the head of the class in using clean/renewable energy.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/4/2018 1:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/4/2018 12:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/4/2018 11:24:00 AM (view original):
Trump-haters were expecting record lows over the summer?
Pretty sure last week, coupled with next week, will close greatly close that 3-1 gap being touted last page, and we still have the 2 coldest months of Winter remaining ahead.
Again, just another thing for those haters to try to criticize Trump about, that makes them look like raving loons.

I have no idea why you are attributing people concerned with global warming to "Trump haters". The global warming crew has been around way before Trump was in office. People criticizing Trump do so because it's obvious he has no clue as to the difference between weather and climate.

When you are seeing record highs and record lows in the same year, I think one can start to rightfully look to abnormal disruptions in the natural order of things.

BHO was beyond reproach but he made many mistake in his eight years. At least in my opinion he did. Why do you think he was not criticized publicly? Double standard?

Hey Boris. Hope the league's draft gets going quickly!!

Obama was NOT beyond reproach and said so himself many times. Nor was he perfect and certainly he made mistakes. All do.
Your bias becomes zeal when you make claims such as "he was not criticized publicly". It makes you look silly!
You never heard of Fox News!? For 8 freaking years they made it into an art form. Beat up on him repeatedly for nothing other than ratings!! And they weren't the only one! Get real!

On the other hand......... can anyone even Imagine the current POTUS even acknowledging a misstatement??? Much less a mistake, or an error, or an actual transgression??? (Like an unwanted sexual advance?? ha ha)

As the "yorkers" say Fawgettt About It!!!
The absolute pinnacle of arrogance and perceived superiority!! Humility is an H and Donald didn't get that far in the dictionary...........not enough attention span,,,,,,,,, and it wasn't on the TV Monitor OR Fox News!

I am glad he inherited such an economic "mess" didn't he call it? How about giving some credit for the economy where it is DUE???
Just where was the economy in Jan. of 2009?

Posted by laramiebob on 1/4/2018 2:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 1/4/2018 1:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 1/4/2018 1:04:00 PM (view original):
Right wingers grasping at straws to blame liberals for everything. NEWSFLASH No liberals blame Trump for Climate Change!

Thinking humans of all stripes will blame the "fools" who ignored the obvious factual evidence because it didn't fit their political narrative.
Your OWN Grandchild will blame YOU for not believing the facts and attempting to mitigate a serious problem.
The taxpayers will blame the Repugs. when they are having to foot the bill for the relocation (and water resistant construction) of multiple military bases, and abandonment of seaside communities.

The region of No. Arizona (Colorado Plateau Region) just completed the driest quarter in recorded HISTORY on 12/31/2017.
Still no snow anywhere in sight in Flagstaff (one of the 10 snowiest cities in the U.S.--historically). The state just completed our 3rd straight warmest year record in a row!!
Non-acceptors of the FACT of climate change are self absorbed fools stealing from their Grandchildren.
Just like the Republican party stealing from their Grandchildren to give tax breaks to their benefactors!

The evil doers masquerading as middle class friendly Repugs. will pay the price quite soon!
Sheep are stupid. Not all humans are. SOME will wake up and realize they're being sheared.
When that occurs they wont stand for it. The shaky "governing alliance" now in place (out of necessity) between the fruit-cake WH and the traditional Repugs. still in Congress will bust into full fledged civil war delivering the Gov't in FULL measure to the Dumbocrats!!

That's when things really go bad!!
Don't you folks read history books?

BTW. Happy New Year!! We better enjoy every one we got left!

I'm a big believer in climate change. The next big Ice Age is coming. These warm spells only last about 20,000 years.

Laugh all you want Dougie. Once in a great while I find you amusing. But then a wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse............

For the purposes of tolerance, I'll chock this one up to a poor attempt at a joke.
You can explain your flippancy and unconcern to your own Grand Children.

On this point I find you booring.......... not amusing.
The facts are clearly in and there IS a word for those who choose to ignore reality.

Rather than name call, I'll just point out that voices shown to be foolish are just ignored by those that know better.
Ask anyone.......... see IF you get an answer.

I reserve the following space to answer your accusations. You can run but you can't hide.