"Lazy people exist dude"

So does blind bias. We are a completely divided nation BECAUSE we listen to sources that re-enforce our basic viewpoint. The politicians know this. They use this to divide us further to appeal to the zealots with money! For donations. Simple thing to find the evidence of this.

The answer is to STOP believing in the system. REFUSE to vote for the party you favor (personal bias) and certainly don't vote for the party you oppose. That leaves you few choices. Either the non ruling parties (Libertarian, Green, etc), or joining in with your neighbors and friends and forming a NEW Independent party.

Rise up! Make clear WE ARE the Gov't! THEY must do as WE wish (within Constitutional limits!)
I'm very embarrassed to say that these 3 nut-jobs are my 3 State (of Arizona) Representatives from my district. (I did NOT vote for any of them)
Bob Thorpe (R) (from Flagstaff), Brenda Barton (R) (Rim Country), and Sylvia Allen (R) (Mormon Country and Charter schools owner)

Do a google search on these three if you care to learn WHY former Reagan voters like me can no longer vote Republican.
Obviously I didn't do enough to stand up for sanity in State government and it allowed the Repugnicans to run wild and totally forget WHO they represent in their zeal to fatten their own interests!

My bad, I guess. What to do? Eliminate them? How? Can't use violence, Revolution is now Terrorism.
We must rise up via the ballot box. Stop voting for the two parties!
Those that insist that they are are only choices are completely (and dictionary defined as) insane!
Just say NO to the governing junta!

I did that. I voted for the most disruptive force ever. Arguably. DJT

Arguably is correct! Wait and see what you actually got.

Exactly. A vote for Trump WAS a vote against the established system. Instead of using that as a start to vote against the system in other elections, people would rather whine, b*tch and complain that Trump isn't what they want either. I guess these people think some massive overhaul is magically going to happen overnight. Instead, their constant BS is driving more and more people further and further into the two major Parties' corners. They're too busy opening their mouths as wide as possible that they can't open their eyes.

A vote for Trump was a vote for the richest fool in the history of the globe........... and maybe a traitor to THIS Country! You fool!

Yeah but it got people talking and the hatred the two sides have for one another has come out in the open. I am enjoying it.

Can't say I like all the hatred and division amongst Americans. I will say as long as it accomplishes something I'll be all for it in the end. Could be the sheep end up learning to not be so blindly sheep-like! Depends on what the truth is. It will come out. Always does. I'm waiting to see what blind fools like All3 say then.......... IF they're even real voters and not internet Russkie trolls LOL.

The hatred was always there but hidden. Really was exacerbated under BHO. At least for me and people that I work with, etc. And stop insulting my russkie folks. Remember Bob, we were allies in WWII. He he.

BTW Bob, despite our obvious political differences I think you're a good dude. I'd buy you a beer or a coffee if you don't imbibe alcoholic beverages any day! I'd even buy bad_luck a beer. I enjoy these debates.

I drink beer some. Particularly like DeChuttes Red Chair Northwest Pale Ale lately. Internet debates are dangerous because (these days) there are trolls out there lurking to do nothing but stir our (cultural and political) divisions for their own purposes........... and when we ultimately find out that (maybe!) the Russian government has serious "goods" on DJT thru their knowledge of his participation in money laundering and election shenanigans with foreign governments we'll know the real extent of such trolls. Mindless support of the unsupportable (which I do see on these threads by some here) is a decent indicator of such!

Eh....I don't think any debate is bad so long as it is civil to a point. I call bad_luck dumb because he said Ben Shapiro was a white supremacist. Ben Shapiro is an orthdox JEw.

Posted by laramiebob on 1/5/2018 11:21:00 AM (view original):
Can't say I like all the hatred and division amongst Americans. I will say as long as it accomplishes something I'll be all for it in the end. Could be the sheep end up learning to not be so blindly sheep-like! Depends on what the truth is. It will come out. Always does. I'm waiting to see what blind fools like All3 say then.......... IF they're even real voters and not internet Russkie trolls LOL.

You say you hate all the hatred, yet you spread it around extremely freely. The hatred you have for Trump, for whatever reason, makes you blind to what others are even trying to say. Calling me a "sheep" is simply stupid, based on the reasons I have continually explained as to why I support giving Trump a fair chance. It has been noted over and over and over that I am much, much more of a HRC hater (the 1 and only other "true" candidate last election due to Democratic Primary rigging and the fact no other Republican had a shot of beating her) than I'll ever be a Trump supporter. I also believe that whoever is the President of this Country deserves the respect of it's people. That person has earned it, whether everyone likes it or not. Don't like Trump? That's fine, and understandable. Think HRC would have been "better"? You're crazy. Think there was another option? Not in today's USA. Is that ever going to change? Not if people like you want to rake every non-politician for life over the coals when they win. You say you support changing the system and the status quo - then start acting like it.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/5/2018 10:36:00 AM (view original):
Lazy people exist dude

But laziness is not generational.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/5/2018 10:47:00 AM (view original):
Old saying fish for a man and feed him for a day. Teach the man to fish and feed him for life. Your dad is fishing for the man. Noble. We need to teach to fish.

He is teaching the man to fish. Read the last part of my statement

Perfect example of hate: Riots in Baltimore.

Black city council, black police chief, black mayor, black attorney general, black POTUS. Yet they protest and loot. BHO does nothing except throw fuel on the fire. Want to see the racial divide. Exhibit #1!

Posted by tangplay on 1/5/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/5/2018 10:47:00 AM (view original):
Old saying fish for a man and feed him for a day. Teach the man to fish and feed him for life. Your dad is fishing for the man. Noble. We need to teach to fish.

He is teaching the man to fish. Read the last part of my statement

You agree that Govt created this mess but you want them to still fix it? Allow capitalism to fix it. Govt sucks at what it does.