Posted by strikeout26 on 1/8/2018 6:33:00 PM (view original):
Every public school has bad lunches. Aesthetics's of the school shouldn't have an impact. It comes down to quality of teacher and even more than that it comes down to quality of parent.

"In direct terms, these factors indicate whether the state and school district prioritize serving poor students by diverting needed funds, even in a financial downturn. Some take for granted that disparities among affluent and poor schools will persist. However, students and teachers at poor schools, both consciously or subconsciously, can see and absorb the message that neither they nor their learning [*40] matters. If Kenneth Clark's "doll test" that was included in the famous footnote eleven in Brown v. Board of Education and persuaded the Court to see the "badge of inferiority" and devastating impact of racial segregation on minority children, how much more persuasive is it to see the inferiority and low self-esteem that plagues the poor when living in impoverished schools and neighborhoods? As my former colleague at Teachers College and former New York State Education Commissioner Thomas Sobol once put: If you ask the children to attend school in conditions where plaster is crumbling, the roof is leaking and classes are being held in unlikely places because of overcrowded conditions, that says something to the child about how you diminish the value of the activity and of the child's participation in it and perhaps of the child himself. If, on the other hand, you send a child to a school in well-appointed or [adequate facilities] that sends the opposite message. That says this counts. You count. Do well." Maurice Dyson, 2016

I have a response to that, but I haven't figured out how to word it without it being misinterpreted or twisted, so I'll refrain.

I can't see where school choice is a bad thing. Unless you work at a school where accountability might infringe on your complacency...many schools have flat out failed the attending kids. Giving them competition might be a good thing.

Yes, I love school choice. It gives these kids in poorer neighborhoods opportunities to attend schools where the environment is more conducive to learning.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/8/2018 7:16:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I love school choice. It gives these kids in poorer neighborhoods opportunities to attend schools where the environment is more conducive to learning.

What makes the other schools more conducive to learning?

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/8/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):
This is why you get 55 electoral votes as you have nearly 40mil people to 2mil for WVA. Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize (more or less). Have you ever itemized? MA is better than Cali in terms of schools and healthcare, we should pay more. :)

Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize??????????

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are MikeT in disguise???????

If my refund is $1,000 and I change by excise tax deduction from $100 to $200 my refund will be $1,100. When you itemize it is basically dollar for dollar once you reach a certain threshold.

Have you ever itemized? Answer the question instead of dancing around it. LOL.

No, no. We need to address this.

Walk me through the math. Give me an personal income example and then show me, step by step, how a SALT deduction is the same as a credit (refund).

HAVE YOU EVER ITEMIZED?!!?!?!?

I just told you if you do your taxes on tax cut or turbo tax and you itemize, get a number. Say it is $1,000. Now go back and change your excise tax deduction and increase it by $200. Your refund will be $1,200. DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. I am not sure which threshold you have to reach for that to be achieved because I am not a CPA or an Enrolled Agent.

If you cannot deduct for excise tax then increase your charitable contribution by $200. Again it will increase your refund dollar for dollar.

Yes, I itemize because i have a mortgage.

That's bullshit.

Let's say you're single and have $300,000 in taxable income with $15,000 in itemized deductions. Your federal tax bill is $84,893.

If, instead, you have $20,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is 83,143. If you have $50,000 in itemized deductions your tax bill is $72,643.

If instead you have $3M in income and $120,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is $1,062,417. If you deduct $150,000 instead your tax bill is only reduced to $1,052,117. Even if you deduct the absolute most allowed under the law ($550k), your tax bill still only goes down to $914,784.

A DEDUCTION IS NEVER THE SAME AS A CREDIT.

You moron.

So no, you just aren’t going to respond?

I guess the toilets won’t clean themselves.

I don't know how you do yours but on mine it is almost dollar for dollar. I will check again this year when I do them. I am not a tax expert for the 80th time. Damn you are dumb. Plus I cannot verify your numbers. They are just numbers. Are you a CPA?

Generally smaller classes = better learning. Not always. A lot of it is the PARENTS!!!!

Single parents will usually have kids that do not learn as well.

The environment. Kids in more affluent neighborhoods come from parents with higher expectations. You do not have behavioral issues to the same degree and there is more of an emphasis put on studying by their peers.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/8/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):
This is why you get 55 electoral votes as you have nearly 40mil people to 2mil for WVA. Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize (more or less). Have you ever itemized? MA is better than Cali in terms of schools and healthcare, we should pay more. :)

Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize??????????

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are MikeT in disguise???????

If my refund is $1,000 and I change by excise tax deduction from $100 to $200 my refund will be $1,100. When you itemize it is basically dollar for dollar once you reach a certain threshold.

Have you ever itemized? Answer the question instead of dancing around it. LOL.

No, no. We need to address this.

Walk me through the math. Give me an personal income example and then show me, step by step, how a SALT deduction is the same as a credit (refund).

HAVE YOU EVER ITEMIZED?!!?!?!?

I just told you if you do your taxes on tax cut or turbo tax and you itemize, get a number. Say it is $1,000. Now go back and change your excise tax deduction and increase it by $200. Your refund will be $1,200. DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. I am not sure which threshold you have to reach for that to be achieved because I am not a CPA or an Enrolled Agent.

If you cannot deduct for excise tax then increase your charitable contribution by $200. Again it will increase your refund dollar for dollar.

Yes, I itemize because i have a mortgage.

That's bullshit.

Let's say you're single and have $300,000 in taxable income with $15,000 in itemized deductions. Your federal tax bill is $84,893.

If, instead, you have $20,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is 83,143. If you have $50,000 in itemized deductions your tax bill is $72,643.

If instead you have $3M in income and $120,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is $1,062,417. If you deduct $150,000 instead your tax bill is only reduced to $1,052,117. Even if you deduct the absolute most allowed under the law ($550k), your tax bill still only goes down to $914,784.

A DEDUCTION IS NEVER THE SAME AS A CREDIT.

You moron.

So no, you just aren’t going to respond?

I guess the toilets won’t clean themselves.

What do you have against toilet cleaners anyway? What do you do for work? I am happy to compare resumes and W2s any time.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/8/2018 7:23:00 PM (view original):
The environment. Kids in more affluent neighborhoods come from parents with higher expectations. You do not have behavioral issues to the same degree and there is more of an emphasis put on studying by their peers.

THIS!!!

Three steps to not be poor

1) Graduate High School
2) Don't become a single parent
3) Get a job

Seems simple. tangplay thinks it is difficult :(

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/8/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):
This is why you get 55 electoral votes as you have nearly 40mil people to 2mil for WVA. Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize (more or less). Have you ever itemized? MA is better than Cali in terms of schools and healthcare, we should pay more. :)

Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize??????????

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are MikeT in disguise???????

If my refund is $1,000 and I change by excise tax deduction from $100 to $200 my refund will be $1,100. When you itemize it is basically dollar for dollar once you reach a certain threshold.

Have you ever itemized? Answer the question instead of dancing around it. LOL.

No, no. We need to address this.

Walk me through the math. Give me an personal income example and then show me, step by step, how a SALT deduction is the same as a credit (refund).

HAVE YOU EVER ITEMIZED?!!?!?!?

I just told you if you do your taxes on tax cut or turbo tax and you itemize, get a number. Say it is $1,000. Now go back and change your excise tax deduction and increase it by $200. Your refund will be $1,200. DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. I am not sure which threshold you have to reach for that to be achieved because I am not a CPA or an Enrolled Agent.

If you cannot deduct for excise tax then increase your charitable contribution by $200. Again it will increase your refund dollar for dollar.

Yes, I itemize because i have a mortgage.

That's bullshit.

Let's say you're single and have $300,000 in taxable income with $15,000 in itemized deductions. Your federal tax bill is $84,893.

If, instead, you have $20,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is 83,143. If you have $50,000 in itemized deductions your tax bill is $72,643.

If instead you have $3M in income and $120,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is $1,062,417. If you deduct $150,000 instead your tax bill is only reduced to $1,052,117. Even if you deduct the absolute most allowed under the law ($550k), your tax bill still only goes down to $914,784.

A DEDUCTION IS NEVER THE SAME AS A CREDIT.

You moron.

So no, you just aren’t going to respond?

I guess the toilets won’t clean themselves.

What do you have against toilet cleaners anyway? What do you do for work? I am happy to compare resumes and W2s any time.

So you were wrong?

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Posted by bad_luck on 1/8/2018 4:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/8/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):
This is why you get 55 electoral votes as you have nearly 40mil people to 2mil for WVA. Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize (more or less). Have you ever itemized? MA is better than Cali in terms of schools and healthcare, we should pay more. :)

Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize??????????

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are MikeT in disguise???????

If my refund is $1,000 and I change by excise tax deduction from $100 to $200 my refund will be $1,100. When you itemize it is basically dollar for dollar once you reach a certain threshold.

Have you ever itemized? Answer the question instead of dancing around it. LOL.

No, no. We need to address this.

Walk me through the math. Give me an personal income example and then show me, step by step, how a SALT deduction is the same as a credit (refund).

HAVE YOU EVER ITEMIZED?!!?!?!?

I just told you if you do your taxes on tax cut or turbo tax and you itemize, get a number. Say it is $1,000. Now go back and change your excise tax deduction and increase it by $200. Your refund will be $1,200. DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. I am not sure which threshold you have to reach for that to be achieved because I am not a CPA or an Enrolled Agent.

If you cannot deduct for excise tax then increase your charitable contribution by $200. Again it will increase your refund dollar for dollar.

Yes, I itemize because i have a mortgage.

That's bullshit.

Let's say you're single and have $300,000 in taxable income with $15,000 in itemized deductions. Your federal tax bill is $84,893.

If, instead, you have $20,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is 83,143. If you have $50,000 in itemized deductions your tax bill is $72,643.

If instead you have $3M in income and $120,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is $1,062,417. If you deduct $150,000 instead your tax bill is only reduced to $1,052,117. Even if you deduct the absolute most allowed under the law ($550k), your tax bill still only goes down to $914,784.

A DEDUCTION IS NEVER THE SAME AS A CREDIT.

You moron.

So no, you just aren’t going to respond?

I guess the toilets won’t clean themselves.

I don't know how you do yours but on mine it is almost dollar for dollar. I will check again this year when I do them. I am not a tax expert for the 80th time. Damn you are dumb. Plus I cannot verify your numbers. They are just numbers. Are you a CPA?

My numbers come from an online tax calculator. You can double check them with any generic online tax calculator. I used the one on SmartAsset.

I may be, yes. I am telling what I saw on my PITR. I could be 100% wrong. I am not a CPA nor am I a tax expert. Now what do you do for work? Would you like to compare resumes or do you want to answer more questions with questions?

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/8/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):
This is why you get 55 electoral votes as you have nearly 40mil people to 2mil for WVA. Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize (more or less). Have you ever itemized? MA is better than Cali in terms of schools and healthcare, we should pay more. :)

Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize??????????

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are MikeT in disguise???????

If my refund is $1,000 and I change by excise tax deduction from $100 to $200 my refund will be $1,100. When you itemize it is basically dollar for dollar once you reach a certain threshold.

Have you ever itemized? Answer the question instead of dancing around it. LOL.

No, no. We need to address this.

Walk me through the math. Give me an personal income example and then show me, step by step, how a SALT deduction is the same as a credit (refund).

HAVE YOU EVER ITEMIZED?!!?!?!?

I just told you if you do your taxes on tax cut or turbo tax and you itemize, get a number. Say it is $1,000. Now go back and change your excise tax deduction and increase it by $200. Your refund will be $1,200. DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. I am not sure which threshold you have to reach for that to be achieved because I am not a CPA or an Enrolled Agent.

If you cannot deduct for excise tax then increase your charitable contribution by $200. Again it will increase your refund dollar for dollar.

Yes, I itemize because i have a mortgage.

That's bullshit.

Let's say you're single and have $300,000 in taxable income with $15,000 in itemized deductions. Your federal tax bill is $84,893.

If, instead, you have $20,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is 83,143. If you have $50,000 in itemized deductions your tax bill is $72,643.

If instead you have $3M in income and $120,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is $1,062,417. If you deduct $150,000 instead your tax bill is only reduced to $1,052,117. Even if you deduct the absolute most allowed under the law ($550k), your tax bill still only goes down to $914,784.

A DEDUCTION IS NEVER THE SAME AS A CREDIT.

You moron.

So no, you just aren’t going to respond?

I guess the toilets won’t clean themselves.

I don't know how you do yours but on mine it is almost dollar for dollar. I will check again this year when I do them. I am not a tax expert for the 80th time. Damn you are dumb. Plus I cannot verify your numbers. They are just numbers. Are you a CPA?

My numbers come from an online tax calculator. You can double check them with any generic online tax calculator. I used the one on SmartAsset.

When you do your PITR and you are DONE...change your charitable contribution by $100 and see the delta. Just for arguments sake. It will take you 3 seconds.

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Posted by bad_luck on 1/8/2018 4:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/8/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):
This is why you get 55 electoral votes as you have nearly 40mil people to 2mil for WVA. Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize (more or less). Have you ever itemized? MA is better than Cali in terms of schools and healthcare, we should pay more. :)

Deduct is the same as refund when you itemize??????????

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are MikeT in disguise???????

If my refund is $1,000 and I change by excise tax deduction from $100 to $200 my refund will be $1,100. When you itemize it is basically dollar for dollar once you reach a certain threshold.

Have you ever itemized? Answer the question instead of dancing around it. LOL.

No, no. We need to address this.

Walk me through the math. Give me an personal income example and then show me, step by step, how a SALT deduction is the same as a credit (refund).

HAVE YOU EVER ITEMIZED?!!?!?!?

I just told you if you do your taxes on tax cut or turbo tax and you itemize, get a number. Say it is $1,000. Now go back and change your excise tax deduction and increase it by $200. Your refund will be $1,200. DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR. I am not sure which threshold you have to reach for that to be achieved because I am not a CPA or an Enrolled Agent.

If you cannot deduct for excise tax then increase your charitable contribution by $200. Again it will increase your refund dollar for dollar.

Yes, I itemize because i have a mortgage.

That's bullshit.

Let's say you're single and have $300,000 in taxable income with $15,000 in itemized deductions. Your federal tax bill is $84,893.

If, instead, you have $20,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is 83,143. If you have $50,000 in itemized deductions your tax bill is $72,643.

If instead you have $3M in income and $120,000 in itemized deductions, your tax bill is $1,062,417. If you deduct $150,000 instead your tax bill is only reduced to $1,052,117. Even if you deduct the absolute most allowed under the law ($550k), your tax bill still only goes down to $914,784.

A DEDUCTION IS NEVER THE SAME AS A CREDIT.

You moron.

So no, you just aren’t going to respond?

I guess the toilets won’t clean themselves.

I don't know how you do yours but on mine it is almost dollar for dollar. I will check again this year when I do them. I am not a tax expert for the 80th time. Damn you are dumb. Plus I cannot verify your numbers. They are just numbers. Are you a CPA?

My numbers come from an online tax calculator. You can double check them with any generic online tax calculator. I used the one on SmartAsset.

When you do your PITR and you are DONE...change your charitable contribution by $100 and see the delta. Just for arguments sake. It will take you 3 seconds.

Why would that be dollar for dollar?

Let’s say my total tax liability is $30,000. Deducting $100 more from my income will reduce my tax liability to $30k - (100 x marginal rate).