Posted by bad_luck on 1/12/2018 10:33:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 10:29:00 AM (view original):
You would be surprised how many have criminal justice degrees from local universities that actually teach the classes to pass such test. Both my friends were criminal justice majors. And the test is not super hard actually. Or was not. Again. It may be the "unwritten rule" but that was the case. If you were white you better get a 100% or you were not going to get in. If you were a minority. A 70% and you were in. Unfortunately because it is unwritten I cannot show proof but if swearing on my kids lives is not enough I am not sure what is.

I heard that it was an unwritten rule that your dick had to be at least 9 inches to become a cop in some cities after they ditched the 100/70 rule. More reverse racism designed to give blacks an edge?

Whatever. IF you want to be a clown the join the circus. I am trying to have a serious discussion. I don't have time for people like you. Ignorant.

Posted by all3 on 1/12/2018 10:52:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 10:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/12/2018 10:24:00 AM (view original):
So you agree it's ridiculous and worthless?

I think that there being only one minority head coach from 1920-1979 is pretty telling. And then not another one until 1989.


7 minority head coaches from 1920-until 2003 and the inception of the Rooney rule. In the NFL....


Do you think that is ridiculous?

I think it's ridiculous you credit the rule for the increased minority hirings instead of the decrease in racism.
Mandatory anything involving race, is racism.
If mandatory interviewing of an African-American for Coaching vacancies is OK, then why shouldn't there be mandatory tryouts for whites when there are open roster spots? Surely you agree that the percentage of white players is greatly askew from the percentage of whites in the general population, so there must be some racial hiring practices when it comes to players, right?

Whites do have open tryouts. Every day, every year. What an absolutely dumbass All3 comment. par for the course.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 9:36:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 1/12/2018 12:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/11/2018 9:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/11/2018 8:31:00 PM (view original):
He'll never get it Tang.

OMG GET WHAT?!?!!? LOL

What is your solution? Mine is capitalism. If BAML doesn't want to lend to certain neighborhoods then let it be so. My bank will gladly lend there. Capitalism always works. My parents came from nothing, did not speak English and are still discriminated against as am I. I don't care and I just go on with my life. America you could argue is biased toward the wealthy but to me it is not racist.

Your solution sounds like more regulations. Which does not work!

cccp, I agree with some of what you are saying, but if you think there's not racism in America, I think you are deluding yourself.

I don't believe there is institutional racism.

Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions. Whether implicitly or explicitly expressed, institutional racism occurs when a certain group is targeted and discriminated against based upon race.

I believe there are racists of course but I do not believe it is institutional in the US. Again, I could be wrong but I don't see it in neither my private nor public life. In Boston to become a Police Officer a white person needs to get a 100% score and an African American person needs a 70%. You may say it is a slap in the face to the African American person I guess but I don't see it as racism?

I already proved that it exists, in multiple ways. REDLINING

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/11/2018 11:43:00 PM (view original):
Say it again. I did not see it. Do you think it’s a culture thing or a race thing? I believe it is culture. As I said to me capitalism is color blind. But I live in MA so my vision could be skewed.

It is a wealth AND race thing. To answer your question about Jews,
1. Jews are not discriminated against to the extent that black people are, in the US.
2. Jews did not have drugs and other things put into their neighborhoods.

As for capitalism, if no one can measure whether a black person could have been better at the job than a white person, people can discriminate away. Again, in this situation capitalism ONLY works if it is transparant, like the NBA.

Jews are doing better than other whites though as well. How do you explain that? Gov't put drugs into the neighborhoods. Why do you trust the Gov't?

People are free to discriminate. If I open a health club for whites only then a competitor will open one for everyone and he will put me out of business. Capitalism only sees green. Want to lower racism? Get the Gov't out and let capitalism take over. Seems simple to me.

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 11:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 9:36:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 1/12/2018 12:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/11/2018 9:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/11/2018 8:31:00 PM (view original):
He'll never get it Tang.

OMG GET WHAT?!?!!? LOL

What is your solution? Mine is capitalism. If BAML doesn't want to lend to certain neighborhoods then let it be so. My bank will gladly lend there. Capitalism always works. My parents came from nothing, did not speak English and are still discriminated against as am I. I don't care and I just go on with my life. America you could argue is biased toward the wealthy but to me it is not racist.

Your solution sounds like more regulations. Which does not work!

cccp, I agree with some of what you are saying, but if you think there's not racism in America, I think you are deluding yourself.

I don't believe there is institutional racism.

Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions. Whether implicitly or explicitly expressed, institutional racism occurs when a certain group is targeted and discriminated against based upon race.

I believe there are racists of course but I do not believe it is institutional in the US. Again, I could be wrong but I don't see it in neither my private nor public life. In Boston to become a Police Officer a white person needs to get a 100% score and an African American person needs a 70%. You may say it is a slap in the face to the African American person I guess but I don't see it as racism?

I already proved that it exists, in multiple ways. REDLINING

Who is redlining?!!?!?!? No one in MA is.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 11:05:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 11:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 9:36:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 1/12/2018 12:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/11/2018 9:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/11/2018 8:31:00 PM (view original):
He'll never get it Tang.

OMG GET WHAT?!?!!? LOL

What is your solution? Mine is capitalism. If BAML doesn't want to lend to certain neighborhoods then let it be so. My bank will gladly lend there. Capitalism always works. My parents came from nothing, did not speak English and are still discriminated against as am I. I don't care and I just go on with my life. America you could argue is biased toward the wealthy but to me it is not racist.

Your solution sounds like more regulations. Which does not work!

cccp, I agree with some of what you are saying, but if you think there's not racism in America, I think you are deluding yourself.

I don't believe there is institutional racism.

Institutional racism is a form of racism expressed in the practice of social and political institutions. Whether implicitly or explicitly expressed, institutional racism occurs when a certain group is targeted and discriminated against based upon race.

I believe there are racists of course but I do not believe it is institutional in the US. Again, I could be wrong but I don't see it in neither my private nor public life. In Boston to become a Police Officer a white person needs to get a 100% score and an African American person needs a 70%. You may say it is a slap in the face to the African American person I guess but I don't see it as racism?

I already proved that it exists, in multiple ways. REDLINING

Who is redlining?!!?!?!? No one in MA is.

Is redlining not illegal?

Posted by all3 on 1/12/2018 10:17:00 AM (view original):
OK, how about the Rooney Rule? Is that a better example?
One of the most racially discriminatory examples I can think of. Makes it appear African-Americans are incapable of earning an interview.
Maybe mandatory interviewing of at least 1 woman for each HC vacancy should be required to show the Franchise isn't sexist?
Hey, how about mandatory tryouts for at least 1 white player when there is in opening on the team?
Total garbage!

Or, could it possibly be, that black people are discriminated against, and the Rooney rule makes the process transparant which helps close the gap between white and black coaches?

Posted by all3 on 1/12/2018 10:24:00 AM (view original):
So you agree it's ridiculous and worthless?

It needs to be enforced harder not less hard.

So you want to force people to hire those they don't want to hire? Seems crazy to me. It is like being invited to a bday party as a pity invite. I would not want that.

isn't Boston insurance companies being investigated right now for charging higher premiums to people in lower class neighborhoods that have similar driving records to people in better neighborhoods?

Posted by all3 on 1/12/2018 10:52:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 10:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/12/2018 10:24:00 AM (view original):
So you agree it's ridiculous and worthless?

I think that there being only one minority head coach from 1920-1979 is pretty telling. And then not another one until 1989.


7 minority head coaches from 1920-until 2003 and the inception of the Rooney rule. In the NFL....


Do you think that is ridiculous?

I think it's ridiculous you credit the rule for the increased minority hirings instead of the decrease in racism.
Mandatory anything involving race, is racism.
If mandatory interviewing of an African-American for Coaching vacancies is OK, then why shouldn't there be mandatory tryouts for whites when there are open roster spots? Surely you agree that the percentage of white players is greatly askew from the percentage of whites in the general population, so there must be some racial hiring practices when it comes to players, right?

Like I said earlier, capitalism only works when the process is transparant. So in the case lf players, if white people were being snubbed because of racism everyone could see it because everyone sees them play. Not so with coaches. The hiring process is closed and it is tougher to distinguish a good coach with a bad coach. Because of this, people can discriminate. The Rooney Rule makes the process more transparant. I agree with Stephen A Smith on this one: the NFL needs to force teams to release the names of the black or minority coaches, so the process can be even more transparant. If teams were forced to hire black coaches, that's discrimination. The Rooney rule is not.

Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 10:02:00 AM (view original):
His example with the Boston police proves nothing because it's untrue. A simple google search will show you otherwise. It's amazing how people just take for granted what other people post as being fact...such as Iran is a shithole because someone told me that.

I really don't care enough to google this. I'm going to take the man at his word. Most of this thread proves my point anyways. There are a bunch of people on the left saying the government needs to step in because blacks are incapable of rising up without the government. It's a shame that the left doesn't have more faith in minorities capabilities.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 11:05:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/11/2018 11:43:00 PM (view original):
Say it again. I did not see it. Do you think it’s a culture thing or a race thing? I believe it is culture. As I said to me capitalism is color blind. But I live in MA so my vision could be skewed.

It is a wealth AND race thing. To answer your question about Jews,
1. Jews are not discriminated against to the extent that black people are, in the US.
2. Jews did not have drugs and other things put into their neighborhoods.

As for capitalism, if no one can measure whether a black person could have been better at the job than a white person, people can discriminate away. Again, in this situation capitalism ONLY works if it is transparant, like the NBA.

Jews are doing better than other whites though as well. How do you explain that? Gov't put drugs into the neighborhoods. Why do you trust the Gov't?

People are free to discriminate. If I open a health club for whites only then a competitor will open one for everyone and he will put me out of business. Capitalism only sees green. Want to lower racism? Get the Gov't out and let capitalism take over. Seems simple to me.

1. Why doea your first point matter?
2. They did under Reagan and Nixon. While I don't trust Trump, I don't think it will happen again.
3. Again, some things are not as transparant. NFL coaching is a good example. The hiring process is closed. Read my response to All3.

lol. So even with mountains of evidence proving he's wrong you're going to take him at his word. Brilliant.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/12/2018 11:17:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 10:02:00 AM (view original):
His example with the Boston police proves nothing because it's untrue. A simple google search will show you otherwise. It's amazing how people just take for granted what other people post as being fact...such as Iran is a shithole because someone told me that.

I really don't care enough to google this. I'm going to take the man at his word. Most of this thread proves my point anyways. There are a bunch of people on the left saying the government needs to step in because blacks are incapable of rising up without the government. It's a shame that the left doesn't have more faith in minorities capabilities.

You already said that white people have an advantage.

But you like that, so you don't want it to change.