Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 2:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 1/12/2018 2:00:00 PM (view original):
It's helpful to Tee Martin to have had the opportunity to be officially interviewed. It becomes a part of his "experience" on paper and in reality it gives him a chance to go through the process, field some questions, etc. Then reflect on it afterwards and use that experience when he gets another opportunity BASED on his (hopefully) continued good performance as a coordinator or Asst. coach. The next time might be a REAL opportunity with a roster that "fits" and he'll be more experienced and May be able to land his dream job........... who knows?

Absolutely

Yeah, this point was made by Bay Area talking heads. I agree mostly, but shouldn't there be an educational arm or a vocational arm in every industry that helps EVERYONE develop interviewing and networking skills. NFL Europe was actually a step in the right direction.

I've almost always been an advocate of government sponsored training (as opposed to monetary handouts or quota hiring restrictions) to get all social and racial groups vocational, interpersonal, and general business training. It's NOT a racial issue, it's a money issue. There are more lazy white trash deadbeats than all of the other races combined (obviously percentages vary), but I would rather see tax dollars go towards an effort to train people HOW to be useful members of society. (Full disclosure, I'm a training manager)

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/12/2018 2:40:00 PM (view original):
14th amendment protects against discrimination from government, but you're welcome to try again if you want.

My bad. The actual law that prohibits racial discrimination is the Civil Rights Act 1964. But it's really just an end around. If you read Harlan's dissent in 1883, you know it's clear that the intent of the 14th amendment was to extend to private businesses.

Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 11:11:00 AM (view original):
isn't Boston insurance companies being investigated right now for charging higher premiums to people in lower class neighborhoods that have similar driving records to people in better neighborhoods?

No idea. Insurance is all based on their made up stats. LOL

I think they are overcharging me!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 11:18:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 11:05:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/11/2018 11:43:00 PM (view original):
Say it again. I did not see it. Do you think it’s a culture thing or a race thing? I believe it is culture. As I said to me capitalism is color blind. But I live in MA so my vision could be skewed.

It is a wealth AND race thing. To answer your question about Jews,
1. Jews are not discriminated against to the extent that black people are, in the US.
2. Jews did not have drugs and other things put into their neighborhoods.

As for capitalism, if no one can measure whether a black person could have been better at the job than a white person, people can discriminate away. Again, in this situation capitalism ONLY works if it is transparant, like the NBA.

Jews are doing better than other whites though as well. How do you explain that? Gov't put drugs into the neighborhoods. Why do you trust the Gov't?

People are free to discriminate. If I open a health club for whites only then a competitor will open one for everyone and he will put me out of business. Capitalism only sees green. Want to lower racism? Get the Gov't out and let capitalism take over. Seems simple to me.

1. Why doea your first point matter?
2. They did under Reagan and Nixon. While I don't trust Trump, I don't think it will happen again.
3. Again, some things are not as transparant. NFL coaching is a good example. The hiring process is closed. Read my response to All3.

ANSWER MY QUESTION PLEASE! I have answered all of yours. NFL is a private. It need not answer to anyone.

Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/12/2018 11:38:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 11:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/12/2018 11:28:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
lol. So even with mountains of evidence proving he's wrong you're going to take him at his word. Brilliant.

Once again, it's irrelevant whether he's right or not. My point has been proven time and again by you, bad luck, and tang. Y'all think minorities aren't smart enough to make it without help from the government. It's shameful.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SAYING. We are saying that institutional racism exists and that it is not a level playing field. Minorities CAN succeed, but again, the playing field is not level.

Do you agree with Taint that racism only exists against minorities, or are you smart enough to admit that it can, and does, exist against whites in some circumstances?

He keeps ignoring why minority's "need" to be a proportionate % of Coaches, yet white don't "need" to be a proportionate % of players.

I'd also love to hear what % of a person's make-up needs to be minority to classify him as a minority. Is there some rule somewhere about that too, or is it totally random, based on the situation?

I'm not ignoring anything, you just don't have anything to add that makes any sense. 59 years, no minority head coaches. Dan Rooney thought it was necessary. That's enough for me.

Pity hires? PASS!!!!!

Posted by wylie715 on 1/12/2018 1:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 10:10:00 AM (view original):
Some people believe it. I said INSTITUTIONAL RACISM does not exist. In my opinion. Wait. Do you believe opinions can be wrong? LOL

Yes, BL believes opinions can be wrong, unless, of course, they are his opinions.

LOL

Stop making me laugh!

Posted by bad_luck on 1/12/2018 1:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 11:02:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/12/2018 10:33:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 10:29:00 AM (view original):
You would be surprised how many have criminal justice degrees from local universities that actually teach the classes to pass such test. Both my friends were criminal justice majors. And the test is not super hard actually. Or was not. Again. It may be the "unwritten rule" but that was the case. If you were white you better get a 100% or you were not going to get in. If you were a minority. A 70% and you were in. Unfortunately because it is unwritten I cannot show proof but if swearing on my kids lives is not enough I am not sure what is.

I heard that it was an unwritten rule that your dick had to be at least 9 inches to become a cop in some cities after they ditched the 100/70 rule. More reverse racism designed to give blacks an edge?

Whatever. IF you want to be a clown the join the circus. I am trying to have a serious discussion. I don't have time for people like you. Ignorant.

The only clown here is the one who makes arguments like "I have two black friends and they say that black people are actually the ones who are in control and used to own white people as slaves" or "I swear on my kids lives that a friend of a friend of a friend posted in a chat room that cops in Boston are only allowed to be white if they are members of MENSA, otherwise, blacks only."

I am making a point. All you do is complain. Never offer a solution. You are ignorant.

Posted by bad_luck on 1/12/2018 3:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/12/2018 2:40:00 PM (view original):
14th amendment protects against discrimination from government, but you're welcome to try again if you want.

My bad. The actual law that prohibits racial discrimination is the Civil Rights Act 1964. But it's really just an end around. If you read Harlan's dissent in 1883, you know it's clear that the intent of the 14th amendment was to extend to private businesses.

Again. Pity hires are for the weak.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 3:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 1/12/2018 1:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 10:10:00 AM (view original):
Some people believe it. I said INSTITUTIONAL RACISM does not exist. In my opinion. Wait. Do you believe opinions can be wrong? LOL

Yes, BL believes opinions can be wrong, unless, of course, they are his opinions.

LOL

Stop making me laugh!

Everyone has a right to their opinion. But no one is obligated to respect that opinion if it’s uninformed.

cccp’s opinion on racial discrimination is definitely uninformed.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 2:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/12/2018 11:38:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 11:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/12/2018 11:28:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
lol. So even with mountains of evidence proving he's wrong you're going to take him at his word. Brilliant.

Once again, it's irrelevant whether he's right or not. My point has been proven time and again by you, bad luck, and tang. Y'all think minorities aren't smart enough to make it without help from the government. It's shameful.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SAYING. We are saying that institutional racism exists and that it is not a level playing field. Minorities CAN succeed, but again, the playing field is not level.

Do you agree with Taint that racism only exists against minorities, or are you smart enough to admit that it can, and does, exist against whites in some circumstances?

He keeps ignoring why minority's "need" to be a proportionate % of Coaches, yet white don't "need" to be a proportionate % of players.

I'd also love to hear what % of a person's make-up needs to be minority to classify him as a minority. Is there some rule somewhere about that too, or is it totally random, based on the situation?

I'm not ignoring anything, you just don't have anything to add that makes any sense. 59 years, no minority head coaches. Dan Rooney thought it was necessary. That's enough for me.

Pity hires? PASS!!!!!

Do you honestly believe in 59 years that there was not 1 qualified minority candidate to be a head coach in the NFL?

Posted by bad_luck on 1/12/2018 3:02:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 3:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 1/12/2018 1:25:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 10:10:00 AM (view original):
Some people believe it. I said INSTITUTIONAL RACISM does not exist. In my opinion. Wait. Do you believe opinions can be wrong? LOL

Yes, BL believes opinions can be wrong, unless, of course, they are his opinions.

LOL

Stop making me laugh!

Everyone has a right to their opinion. But no one is obligated to respect that opinion if it’s uninformed.

cccp’s opinion on racial discrimination is definitely uninformed.

Crazily so.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 2:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 11:18:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 11:05:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/12/2018 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/11/2018 11:43:00 PM (view original):
Say it again. I did not see it. Do you think it’s a culture thing or a race thing? I believe it is culture. As I said to me capitalism is color blind. But I live in MA so my vision could be skewed.

It is a wealth AND race thing. To answer your question about Jews,
1. Jews are not discriminated against to the extent that black people are, in the US.
2. Jews did not have drugs and other things put into their neighborhoods.

As for capitalism, if no one can measure whether a black person could have been better at the job than a white person, people can discriminate away. Again, in this situation capitalism ONLY works if it is transparant, like the NBA.

Jews are doing better than other whites though as well. How do you explain that? Gov't put drugs into the neighborhoods. Why do you trust the Gov't?

People are free to discriminate. If I open a health club for whites only then a competitor will open one for everyone and he will put me out of business. Capitalism only sees green. Want to lower racism? Get the Gov't out and let capitalism take over. Seems simple to me.

1. Why doea your first point matter?
2. They did under Reagan and Nixon. While I don't trust Trump, I don't think it will happen again.
3. Again, some things are not as transparant. NFL coaching is a good example. The hiring process is closed. Read my response to All3.

ANSWER MY QUESTION PLEASE! I have answered all of yours. NFL is a private. It need not answer to anyone.

Which question?

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 3:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/12/2018 3:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/12/2018 2:40:00 PM (view original):
14th amendment protects against discrimination from government, but you're welcome to try again if you want.

My bad. The actual law that prohibits racial discrimination is the Civil Rights Act 1964. But it's really just an end around. If you read Harlan's dissent in 1883, you know it's clear that the intent of the 14th amendment was to extend to private businesses.

Again. Pity hires are for the weak.

No one is talking about hiring. Please stay caught up.

Wait, what? I'm talking about hiring and serving.

My wife just came home with a 12 pack of 7.5 oz cans of Coca Cola. What the hell am I supposed to do with that? That's nothing more than a tease.