It has not worked as you are still whining about it. Give capitalism a chance please.

Haha. That's what so funny to me. He says it has been illegal for 50 years, but now he's pushing for more regulation because apparently we still have a problem. I told you, the left needs victims for party sustainability. They don't want policies to work.

I don’t follow the logic whatsoever. BL acts like a tough guy but whines like a victim. Maybe he is bi polar.

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Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
lol. So even with mountains of evidence proving he's wrong you're going to take him at his word. Brilliant.

Once again, it's irrelevant whether he's right or not. My point has been proven time and again by you, bad luck, and tang. Y'all think minorities aren't smart enough to make it without help from the government. It's shameful.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SAYING. We are saying that institutional racism exists and that it is not a level playing field. Minorities CAN succeed, but again, the playing field is not level.

Do you agree with Taint that racism only exists against minorities, or are you smart enough to admit that it can, and does, exist against whites in some circumstances?

He keeps ignoring why minority's "need" to be a proportionate % of Coaches, yet white don't "need" to be a proportionate % of players.

I'd also love to hear what % of a person's make-up needs to be minority to classify him as a minority. Is there some rule somewhere about that too, or is it totally random, based on the situation?

Ofc racism exists against whites. No one is saying that there needs to be equal #s of minority and white coaches.

So, how many minority Coaches does there "need" to be for things to be non-racist?
Why does that standard not apply to white players?
Also, still love to hear what % of lineage qualifies a person as a minority.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 3:57:00 PM (view original):
If you were to guess...make an educated guess. I am sure you have heard dozens of jokes around Jewish bankers and lawyers. You must admit it is an interesting topic.

Why is the NBA 75% African American?

You want me to say that Jews are better at handling money.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 4:26:00 PM (view original):
It has not worked as you are still whining about it. Give capitalism a chance please.

It has had 300 years.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/12/2018 4:32:00 PM (view original):
Haha. That's what so funny to me. He says it has been illegal for 50 years, but now he's pushing for more regulation because apparently we still have a problem. I told you, the left needs victims for party sustainability. They don't want policies to work.

I’m not pushing for more regulation. I’m pushing for public policy that addresses the disadvantages that blacks face. Things like better social programs for inner city families, a more progressive tax code, ways other than tax credits to address the cost of child care.

None of this is regulation that makes anything illegal. And it would, in general, benefit all poor people, not just blacks.

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Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
lol. So even with mountains of evidence proving he's wrong you're going to take him at his word. Brilliant.

Once again, it's irrelevant whether he's right or not. My point has been proven time and again by you, bad luck, and tang. Y'all think minorities aren't smart enough to make it without help from the government. It's shameful.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SAYING. We are saying that institutional racism exists and that it is not a level playing field. Minorities CAN succeed, but again, the playing field is not level.

Do you agree with Taint that racism only exists against minorities, or are you smart enough to admit that it can, and does, exist against whites in some circumstances?

He keeps ignoring why minority's "need" to be a proportionate % of Coaches, yet white don't "need" to be a proportionate % of players.

I'd also love to hear what % of a person's make-up needs to be minority to classify him as a minority. Is there some rule somewhere about that too, or is it totally random, based on the situation?

Ofc racism exists against whites. No one is saying that there needs to be equal #s of minority and white coaches.

So, how many minority Coaches does there "need" to be for things to be non-racist?
Why does that standard not apply to white players?
Also, still love to hear what % of lineage qualifies a person as a minority.

That's not the argument I am making.

But then you are saying that white people are better coaches than black people. Smh.

I am pushing for basically what BL is saying + Following the For Each and Every Child Report, and supporting more local things like Circles of Hope.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/12/2018 4:32:00 PM (view original):
Haha. That's what so funny to me. He says it has been illegal for 50 years, but now he's pushing for more regulation because apparently we still have a problem. I told you, the left needs victims for party sustainability. They don't want policies to work.

I’m not pushing for more regulation. I’m pushing for public policy that addresses the disadvantages that blacks face. Things like better social programs for inner city families, a more progressive tax code, ways other than tax credits to address the cost of child care.

None of this is regulation that makes anything illegal. And it would, in general, benefit all poor people, not just blacks.

That's might point. You're pushing for government to come in and save the day. It doesn't work. You live in the state that gives out the most welfare in the country. The citizens of your state actually voted for higher taxes. Y'all should be #1 in fewest homeless and have the lowest poverty rate, but you're not. That's because your ideas don't work. That's why I say you're short-sighted. You are blind to what actually works and you're too stubborn to realize this.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 3:57:00 PM (view original):
If you were to guess...make an educated guess. I am sure you have heard dozens of jokes around Jewish bankers and lawyers. You must admit it is an interesting topic.

Why is the NBA 75% African American?

You want me to say that Jews are better at handling money.

I want you to be consistent. If African Americans are better st hoops then let’s say Jews are indeed better at generating profits. Fair?

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Posted by The Taint on 1/12/2018 11:19:00 AM (view original):
lol. So even with mountains of evidence proving he's wrong you're going to take him at his word. Brilliant.

Once again, it's irrelevant whether he's right or not. My point has been proven time and again by you, bad luck, and tang. Y'all think minorities aren't smart enough to make it without help from the government. It's shameful.

THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SAYING. We are saying that institutional racism exists and that it is not a level playing field. Minorities CAN succeed, but again, the playing field is not level.

Do you agree with Taint that racism only exists against minorities, or are you smart enough to admit that it can, and does, exist against whites in some circumstances?

He keeps ignoring why minority's "need" to be a proportionate % of Coaches, yet white don't "need" to be a proportionate % of players.

I'd also love to hear what % of a person's make-up needs to be minority to classify him as a minority. Is there some rule somewhere about that too, or is it totally random, based on the situation?

Ofc racism exists against whites. No one is saying that there needs to be equal #s of minority and white coaches.

So, how many minority Coaches does there "need" to be for things to be non-racist?
Why does that standard not apply to white players?
Also, still love to hear what % of lineage qualifies a person as a minority.

That's not the argument I am making.

But then you are saying that white people are better coaches than black people. Smh.

But it is Ok to say that African Americans are better at Hoops? Double standard.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/12/2018 4:32:00 PM (view original):
Haha. That's what so funny to me. He says it has been illegal for 50 years, but now he's pushing for more regulation because apparently we still have a problem. I told you, the left needs victims for party sustainability. They don't want policies to work.

I’m not pushing for more regulation. I’m pushing for public policy that addresses the disadvantages that blacks face. Things like better social programs for inner city families, a more progressive tax code, ways other than tax credits to address the cost of child care.

None of this is regulation that makes anything illegal. And it would, in general, benefit all poor people, not just blacks.

That's might point. You're pushing for government to come in and save the day. It doesn't work. You live in the state that gives out the most welfare in the country. The citizens of your state actually voted for higher taxes. Y'all should be #1 in fewest homeless and have the lowest poverty rate, but you're not. That's because your ideas don't work. That's why I say you're short-sighted. You are blind to what actually works and you're too stubborn to realize this.

California is actually not the highest per-capita welfare state. And, as a proxy for welfare, California isn't anywhere near the top of food stamp recipients (Mississippi tops that list). It's also not in the top ten in poverty rates (but Georgia is).

Anyway, the government has a place in general welfare. It has since the start. Arguing that we could be better about addressing poverty is completely reasonable.

People are way too afraid to offend others. Cultures are better at different things. Blacks are more athletic by nature. It can argued that slavery is the reason for this. Jews are better with money than almost every other culture. It's a fact. The stereotype is that asians excel in math and science. I think this is true, but most innovation has come from the US, so who knows.

Point is, there is nothing wrong with admitting facts.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/12/2018 4:26:00 PM (view original):
It has not worked as you are still whining about it. Give capitalism a chance please.

It has had 300 years.

True capitalism. No government interference.