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So now it is culture? You just said it was race? Make up your mind.

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Institutional-anti-Semitism-exists-in-the-US-expert-says-391584


You can't have it both ways. If the US is holding African Americans back then is it pushing Jewish people forward? LOL

Culture/race whatever.

Hahaha Jewish newspaper ahahha

I never said pushing Jews forward. I said indifference.

Name an institutional racist practice against Jews.

If it is indifference then why are they more successful? Redlining is against poor areas not races. Try again.

Do you know what redlining was? The creator of it was a blatant racist and even said that the goal was to keep black people out.

They are just more successful I guess. Stereotypes say they are more white. Small sample size.

I know Taint argues that redlining is still practiced, but my personal experiences tell me differently. If I'm wrong, I will be more than happy to back track and eat some crow. I'm not going to buy that a practice 50 years ago has the impact that you claim today.

We already showed that it still does. The damage was done. Adam Ruins Everything did a great job of explaining it. There are also TONS of research that shows this, plus the stats just show that it still affects us. Neighborhoods are very segregated based on race

There are too many assumptions in your evidence to be called facts.

Fine. I will call it a theory. Put it with the Theory of Gravity or the Theory of Evolution.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

School funding is based on county. Has nothing to do with race. GA is a good example. The county that I live in is about 80% white. Poor as dirt, home values suck, and school funding is minimal. Druid Hills is predominantly black. Strong home values, 1500 sf homes are 1/2 million dollars. Schools are funded well. School funding has nothing to do with institutional racism. It has to do wealth of a county. It just so happens that counties that are predominantly black tend to be poorer. I'm not drawing any correlation, just stating a fact.

A lot of school funding is based on attendance, at least it was in California. We got in a lot of trouble our senior year(class of 87) because we did an unofficial senior cut day 87 days from the end of school...just so happened to coincide with the annual attendance audit to determine funding for the next school year.

Really? I didn't know that.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

School funding is based on county. Has nothing to do with race. GA is a good example. The county that I live in is about 80% white. Poor as dirt, home values suck, and school funding is minimal. Druid Hills is predominantly black. Strong home values, 1500 sf homes are 1/2 million dollars. Schools are funded well. School funding has nothing to do with institutional racism. It has to do wealth of a county. It just so happens that counties that are predominantly black tend to be poorer. I'm not drawing any correlation, just stating a fact.

A lot of school funding is based on attendance, at least it was in California. We got in a lot of trouble our senior year(class of 87) because we did an unofficial senior cut day 87 days from the end of school...just so happened to coincide with the annual attendance audit to determine funding for the next school year.

Yes, I'm sure that's the primary factor for state and federal funding, but race plays no role in this. And then local money comes from property taxes obviously. I am just not buying that blacks and Hispanics get less funding because people are racist. Black communities, for whatever reason, are typically poorer; therefore, homes are typically worth less.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/15/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
So now it is culture? You just said it was race? Make up your mind.

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Institutional-anti-Semitism-exists-in-the-US-expert-says-391584


You can't have it both ways. If the US is holding African Americans back then is it pushing Jewish people forward? LOL

Culture/race whatever.

Hahaha Jewish newspaper ahahha

I never said pushing Jews forward. I said indifference.

Name an institutional racist practice against Jews.

If it is indifference then why are they more successful? Redlining is against poor areas not races. Try again.

Do you know what redlining was? The creator of it was a blatant racist and even said that the goal was to keep black people out.

They are just more successful I guess. Stereotypes say they are more white. Small sample size.

I know Taint argues that redlining is still practiced, but my personal experiences tell me differently. If I'm wrong, I will be more than happy to back track and eat some crow. I'm not going to buy that a practice 50 years ago has the impact that you claim today.

We already showed that it still does. The damage was done. Adam Ruins Everything did a great job of explaining it. There are also TONS of research that shows this, plus the stats just show that it still affects us. Neighborhoods are very segregated based on race

There are too many assumptions in your evidence to be called facts.

Fine. I will call it a theory. Put it with the Theory of Gravity or the Theory of Evolution.

I will not because that is ridiculous.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

School funding is based on county. Has nothing to do with race. GA is a good example. The county that I live in is about 80% white. Poor as dirt, home values suck, and school funding is minimal. Druid Hills is predominantly black. Strong home values, 1500 sf homes are 1/2 million dollars. Schools are funded well. School funding has nothing to do with institutional racism. It has to do wealth of a county. It just so happens that counties that are predominantly black tend to be poorer. I'm not drawing any correlation, just stating a fact.

I 100% agree. The points go hand in hand. Redlining to worse neighborhoods. Worse neighborhoods to lower funding.

Yes, but I just showed you that race is not a true indicator. Very few blacks where I live. Very little money. If you're ever in Atlanta, ride through North Druid Hills. Nothing is slowing those blacks down.

I would think that you would know better than to use one example to counter my bigger picture statistics. It's an exception to the rule.

Of course its an exception. I have said over and over that black communities are poorer on the whole. Doesn't mean that I think school funding is lower because of racism.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

School funding is based on county. Has nothing to do with race. GA is a good example. The county that I live in is about 80% white. Poor as dirt, home values suck, and school funding is minimal. Druid Hills is predominantly black. Strong home values, 1500 sf homes are 1/2 million dollars. Schools are funded well. School funding has nothing to do with institutional racism. It has to do wealth of a county. It just so happens that counties that are predominantly black tend to be poorer. I'm not drawing any correlation, just stating a fact.

A lot of school funding is based on attendance, at least it was in California. We got in a lot of trouble our senior year(class of 87) because we did an unofficial senior cut day 87 days from the end of school...just so happened to coincide with the annual attendance audit to determine funding for the next school year.

Yes, I'm sure that's the primary factor for state and federal funding, but race plays no role in this. And then local money comes from property taxes obviously. I am just not buying that blacks and Hispanics get less funding because people are racist. Black communities, for whatever reason, are typically poorer; therefore, homes are typically worth less.

The answer, my friend, is redlining.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/15/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
So now it is culture? You just said it was race? Make up your mind.

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Institutional-anti-Semitism-exists-in-the-US-expert-says-391584


You can't have it both ways. If the US is holding African Americans back then is it pushing Jewish people forward? LOL

Culture/race whatever.

Hahaha Jewish newspaper ahahha

I never said pushing Jews forward. I said indifference.

Name an institutional racist practice against Jews.

If it is indifference then why are they more successful? Redlining is against poor areas not races. Try again.

Do you know what redlining was? The creator of it was a blatant racist and even said that the goal was to keep black people out.

They are just more successful I guess. Stereotypes say they are more white. Small sample size.

I know Taint argues that redlining is still practiced, but my personal experiences tell me differently. If I'm wrong, I will be more than happy to back track and eat some crow. I'm not going to buy that a practice 50 years ago has the impact that you claim today.

We already showed that it still does. The damage was done. Adam Ruins Everything did a great job of explaining it. There are also TONS of research that shows this, plus the stats just show that it still affects us. Neighborhoods are very segregated based on race

There are too many assumptions in your evidence to be called facts.

Fine. I will call it a theory. Put it with the Theory of Gravity or the Theory of Evolution.

I will not because that is ridiculous.

Redlining was insitutional racism. Fact?

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

Name one example that specifically shows school funding is lower for African American people not zip codes but people. I am sure that African American kids living in my neighborhood get equal funding to the white kids.

BTW - my daughter. #1 in her class. Coincidence? Jews are better? Why is it? Please explain, tangy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/public-school-funding-and-the-role-of-race/408085/ Per student black and hispanic people recieve less funding. Partially because they live in worse neighborhoods. Redlining strikes again.

To your other idiotic point,
1. You named one person. Think big sample size. I could name Christians who were successful.
2. Your chart showed people by religion, not race. You are an atheist, not a Jew. By race you may be Jewish. But your chart, the only evidence shown rn, was by religion. You went against your own evidence.

Once again, Jewish is not a race. It is a religion and a culture, but it is not a race.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

Name one example that specifically shows school funding is lower for African American people not zip codes but people. I am sure that African American kids living in my neighborhood get equal funding to the white kids.

BTW - my daughter. #1 in her class. Coincidence? Jews are better? Why is it? Please explain, tangy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/public-school-funding-and-the-role-of-race/408085/ Per student black and hispanic people recieve less funding. Partially because they live in worse neighborhoods. Redlining strikes again.

To your other idiotic point,
1. You named one person. Think big sample size. I could name Christians who were successful.
2. Your chart showed people by religion, not race. You are an atheist, not a Jew. By race you may be Jewish. But your chart, the only evidence shown rn, was by religion. You went against your own evidence.

Once again, Jewish is not a race. It is a religion and a culture, but it is not a race.

It is a race. Descendants of Abraham.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

Name one example that specifically shows school funding is lower for African American people not zip codes but people. I am sure that African American kids living in my neighborhood get equal funding to the white kids.

BTW - my daughter. #1 in her class. Coincidence? Jews are better? Why is it? Please explain, tangy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/public-school-funding-and-the-role-of-race/408085/ Per student black and hispanic people recieve less funding. Partially because they live in worse neighborhoods. Redlining strikes again.

To your other idiotic point,
1. You named one person. Think big sample size. I could name Christians who were successful.
2. Your chart showed people by religion, not race. You are an atheist, not a Jew. By race you may be Jewish. But your chart, the only evidence shown rn, was by religion. You went against your own evidence.

So angry. Typical Liberal. My rhetoric does not fit your argument so you get angry. Your chart proves that it is done by neighborhood not color. Please show one zip code that states "only people of color may live here". LOL

You still dodge the Jewish question. By culture I am Jewish I just don't believe there is a God. Please name just one mostly Jewish neighborhood that is not a wealthy and strong neighborhood. Just one. All I ask. I am sure you can find one? No?

LOL

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

Name one example that specifically shows school funding is lower for African American people not zip codes but people. I am sure that African American kids living in my neighborhood get equal funding to the white kids.

BTW - my daughter. #1 in her class. Coincidence? Jews are better? Why is it? Please explain, tangy.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/public-school-funding-and-the-role-of-race/408085/ Per student black and hispanic people recieve less funding. Partially because they live in worse neighborhoods. Redlining strikes again.

To your other idiotic point,
1. You named one person. Think big sample size. I could name Christians who were successful.
2. Your chart showed people by religion, not race. You are an atheist, not a Jew. By race you may be Jewish. But your chart, the only evidence shown rn, was by religion. You went against your own evidence.

Once again, Jewish is not a race. It is a religion and a culture, but it is not a race.

Correct

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Posted by tangplay on 1/15/2018 8:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

School funding is based on county. Has nothing to do with race. GA is a good example. The county that I live in is about 80% white. Poor as dirt, home values suck, and school funding is minimal. Druid Hills is predominantly black. Strong home values, 1500 sf homes are 1/2 million dollars. Schools are funded well. School funding has nothing to do with institutional racism. It has to do wealth of a county. It just so happens that counties that are predominantly black tend to be poorer. I'm not drawing any correlation, just stating a fact.

A lot of school funding is based on attendance, at least it was in California. We got in a lot of trouble our senior year(class of 87) because we did an unofficial senior cut day 87 days from the end of school...just so happened to coincide with the annual attendance audit to determine funding for the next school year.

Yes, I'm sure that's the primary factor for state and federal funding, but race plays no role in this. And then local money comes from property taxes obviously. I am just not buying that blacks and Hispanics get less funding because people are racist. Black communities, for whatever reason, are typically poorer; therefore, homes are typically worth less.

The answer, my friend, is redlining.

Show me proof that REDLINING is by race. I have defeated tangy yet again. This is too easy.

Who is next?

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/15/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
So now it is culture? You just said it was race? Make up your mind.

http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Institutional-anti-Semitism-exists-in-the-US-expert-says-391584


You can't have it both ways. If the US is holding African Americans back then is it pushing Jewish people forward? LOL

Culture/race whatever.

Hahaha Jewish newspaper ahahha

I never said pushing Jews forward. I said indifference.

Name an institutional racist practice against Jews.

If it is indifference then why are they more successful? Redlining is against poor areas not races. Try again.

Do you know what redlining was? The creator of it was a blatant racist and even said that the goal was to keep black people out.

They are just more successful I guess. Stereotypes say they are more white. Small sample size.

I know Taint argues that redlining is still practiced, but my personal experiences tell me differently. If I'm wrong, I will be more than happy to back track and eat some crow. I'm not going to buy that a practice 50 years ago has the impact that you claim today.

We already showed that it still does. The damage was done. Adam Ruins Everything did a great job of explaining it. There are also TONS of research that shows this, plus the stats just show that it still affects us. Neighborhoods are very segregated based on race

There are too many assumptions in your evidence to be called facts.

Fine. I will call it a theory. Put it with the Theory of Gravity or the Theory of Evolution.

I will not because that is ridiculous.

Redlining was insitutional racism. Fact?

WAS!!!

NOT IS!!!

Slavery was racism too. LOL

Did you know that the poorest town in America is a mere 50 miles from New York? According to Census data, Kiryas Joel, the Orange County town that is the home base for the Ultra-Orthodox Satmar Hasidic Jews, has a higher proportion of its population living in poverty than any other city, town or village with 10,000 people in the country. About 70 percent of its 21,000 residents live below federal poverty levels with nearly half of the village's households reporting annual incomes less than $15,000.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/15/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Name one against blacks.

Relining. School Funding.

School funding is based on county. Has nothing to do with race. GA is a good example. The county that I live in is about 80% white. Poor as dirt, home values suck, and school funding is minimal. Druid Hills is predominantly black. Strong home values, 1500 sf homes are 1/2 million dollars. Schools are funded well. School funding has nothing to do with institutional racism. It has to do wealth of a county. It just so happens that counties that are predominantly black tend to be poorer. I'm not drawing any correlation, just stating a fact.

A lot of school funding is based on attendance, at least it was in California. We got in a lot of trouble our senior year(class of 87) because we did an unofficial senior cut day 87 days from the end of school...just so happened to coincide with the annual attendance audit to determine funding for the next school year.

Yes, I'm sure that's the primary factor for state and federal funding, but race plays no role in this. And then local money comes from property taxes obviously. I am just not buying that blacks and Hispanics get less funding because people are racist. Black communities, for whatever reason, are typically poorer; therefore, homes are typically worth less.

The answer, my friend, is redlining.

Show me proof that REDLINING is by race. I have defeated tangy yet again. This is too easy.

Who is next?

LOL, redlining by definition is race driven.