Posted by dino27 on 1/15/2018 9:17:00 PM (view original):
different writers of the gospel...not disciples......
jesus and the people of his era were not yet so enlightened as to not take it literally.....they believed it verbatim.

The disciples wrote the first 4 books...

I don't think Jesus took it literally.

it is not generally believed that disciples wrote the books...esp john...didnt hit the bookstores until turn of the century......they know mark didnt come out until around 60-65........and none of them is written in the stle that a first hand observer who personally knew jesus would sound like.

if you really want a hoot look up the gospel the infant jesus......written around 150......superboy who kills his friends.

Posted by dino27 on 1/15/2018 10:07:00 PM (view original):
it is not generally believed that disciples wrote the books...esp john...didnt hit the bookstores until turn of the century......they know mark didnt come out until around 60-65........and none of them is written in the stle that a first hand observer who personally knew jesus would sound like.

http://www.ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/REALWROT.htm

Posted by dino27 on 1/15/2018 10:09:00 PM (view original):
if you really want a hoot look up the gospel the infant jesus......written around 150......superboy who kills his friends.

What?

I don't doubt that Jesus existed. Whether or not he was the son of God is a totally different question. I also have my doubts about some of the stuff he supposedly did. That being said, I have no issues with anyone who has faith. I have no issues with anyone's belief system. Whatever works for you is great. What I do have an issue with is when people try to force their beliefs on others. Its like a quote that was supposedly said by Maggie Smith (the actress): My dear, religion is like a *****. It's a perfectly fine thing for one to have and take pride in, but when one takes it out and waves it in my face we have a problem."

whatever happened to the son of zod.

Posted by tangplay on 1/15/2018 8:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/15/2018 8:26:00 PM (view original):
Horus did the same stuff 5k years before Jesus. I am not saying Jesus was not real but the stories about him are embellished and they were written 50 years post his death. Tangy, I'd give you more proof but you would just dismiss it. LOL

I do enjoy educating you.

How would Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, etc have any knowledge of 'Horus', and how would they have written their chapters of the bible about the exact same thing 50 years later if it was not real. USE YOUR BRAIN.

Have you spoken to Matty, Marky, Johnny and Luke? Did you actually watch them write these words?

Posted by wylie715 on 1/16/2018 12:15:00 AM (view original):
I don't doubt that Jesus existed. Whether or not he was the son of God is a totally different question. I also have my doubts about some of the stuff he supposedly did. That being said, I have no issues with anyone who has faith. I have no issues with anyone's belief system. Whatever works for you is great. What I do have an issue with is when people try to force their beliefs on others. Its like a quote that was supposedly said by Maggie Smith (the actress): My dear, religion is like a *****. It's a perfectly fine thing for one to have and take pride in, but when one takes it out and waves it in my face we have a problem."

THIS!!!!!

Posted by dino27 on 1/15/2018 10:09:00 PM (view original):
if you really want a hoot look up the gospel the infant jesus......written around 150......superboy who kills his friends.

By chance, I just read about this in the new issue of Harper's. I'd never heard about it before.

Playing on the bank of a stream, for example, the five-year-old diverts its rushing waters into little puddles by the sheer power of his will. A neighbor boy takes a willow switch and sweeps the water back into the stream. The two boys quarrel, and up to here it reads like a normal story: a scene between two boys that could happen in any kindergarten. But then Jesus cries out that the neighbor boy should wither up like a dead tree, never to bear leaves or roots or fruit again. And immediately the neighbor boy withers up completely, which can only mean he dies, he dies a wretched death, plunging his parents into sorrow, as the Infancy Gospel explicitly says. Jesus, unmoved, goes home.

And the account continues, in exactly that style, with those character traits: in the village, a boy running by accidentally bumps Jesus’ shoulder. What does Jesus do? Kill the boy with a single word. And when the parents of this and the other boy, and more and more people, complain to Joseph— what does Jesus do? Strike them all blind. And when his knowledge exceeds that of his teacher Zacchaeus, he makes a laughingstock of the old man in front of everyone; Zacchaeus despairs and wants to die on account of this child, who must be a paragon of hideousness.

This Jesus sounds a lot like Anthony from The Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life."

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 8:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/15/2018 8:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/15/2018 8:26:00 PM (view original):
Horus did the same stuff 5k years before Jesus. I am not saying Jesus was not real but the stories about him are embellished and they were written 50 years post his death. Tangy, I'd give you more proof but you would just dismiss it. LOL

I do enjoy educating you.

How would Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, etc have any knowledge of 'Horus', and how would they have written their chapters of the bible about the exact same thing 50 years later if it was not real. USE YOUR BRAIN.

Have you spoken to Matty, Marky, Johnny and Luke? Did you actually watch them write these words?

By your logic, the bible was also based on Moby Dick. Did you watch them write the words? There was no way for that info to reach all of the writers of the gospels the same way in different places. It just makes more logical sense my way, and the actual writing of the bible backs it up.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 8:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 1/16/2018 12:15:00 AM (view original):
I don't doubt that Jesus existed. Whether or not he was the son of God is a totally different question. I also have my doubts about some of the stuff he supposedly did. That being said, I have no issues with anyone who has faith. I have no issues with anyone's belief system. Whatever works for you is great. What I do have an issue with is when people try to force their beliefs on others. Its like a quote that was supposedly said by Maggie Smith (the actress): My dear, religion is like a *****. It's a perfectly fine thing for one to have and take pride in, but when one takes it out and waves it in my face we have a problem."

THIS!!!!!

Coming from the guy that rubs that he is even culturally Jewish in the face of everyone else.


HEY! HEY DID YOU KNOW I AM JEWISH? YEAH, I AM HATED, I AM THE VICTIM. BOO HOO. BTW I AM JEWISH. REMEMBER.

Posted by crazystengel on 1/16/2018 11:22:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 1/15/2018 10:09:00 PM (view original):
if you really want a hoot look up the gospel the infant jesus......written around 150......superboy who kills his friends.

By chance, I just read about this in the new issue of Harper's. I'd never heard about it before.

Playing on the bank of a stream, for example, the five-year-old diverts its rushing waters into little puddles by the sheer power of his will. A neighbor boy takes a willow switch and sweeps the water back into the stream. The two boys quarrel, and up to here it reads like a normal story: a scene between two boys that could happen in any kindergarten. But then Jesus cries out that the neighbor boy should wither up like a dead tree, never to bear leaves or roots or fruit again. And immediately the neighbor boy withers up completely, which can only mean he dies, he dies a wretched death, plunging his parents into sorrow, as the Infancy Gospel explicitly says. Jesus, unmoved, goes home.

And the account continues, in exactly that style, with those character traits: in the village, a boy running by accidentally bumps Jesus’ shoulder. What does Jesus do? Kill the boy with a single word. And when the parents of this and the other boy, and more and more people, complain to Joseph— what does Jesus do? Strike them all blind. And when his knowledge exceeds that of his teacher Zacchaeus, he makes a laughingstock of the old man in front of everyone; Zacchaeus despairs and wants to die on account of this child, who must be a paragon of hideousness.

This Jesus sounds a lot like Anthony from The Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life."

i did not know there was an article in harper's about this.

i swear that i was also going to compare it to that twilight zone episode but i didnt know what it was called...split brain.
that gospel was never stricken by the Church.
you have to read the rest..it is wild....it is a real gospel.

i think it is in luke where jesus says about hungry people who aren't jewish asking for food - " to the dogs will go the scraps."
and therein is the original trickle down economy.