Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 2:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

I already explained why CCCP's steps don't work. Again, the issue isn't opportunity, it is equal opportunity. If school funding is not equal for everyone, that is something we need to fix. Redlining still affects us and still exists in ways. Right now people can work harder, do the e steps, etc and be kept back. That's something that we need to fix. Under me and Bad_Luck's system, there is actually MORE accountability. If you don't succeed, it will be because of you.

If his steps don't work, why do people that follow them have more success?

The steps work to stay out of poverty, yes. They do not work to get out of poverty. I already proved this

Then how did my parents get out of poverty? LOL

Remember $100 in the pocket and did not speak the native tongue.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 3:13:00 PM (view original):
BL keeps ignoring this. Too Funny. I'll post again.

WHAT NATIONALITY ARE YOU?!!??!!?

What held Jews back in Europe and in the US? They somehow succeeded? You keep ignoring that fact. And it is not ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS.

DAMMIT. Collin Powell's kid probably has more opportunities than my kids. I can see you playing the wealth card but no the race card.

FACT is we are not any more racist today than we were in the 60s but in the 60s 20% of AA families had one parent. Today it is 70%.
FACT white kids with one parent are a lot less successful than AA kids with two parents.

It has nothing to do with race but culture. Don't become a single parent....If you want to go down that path. I am happy to help! If you just cry racism then I think you will be crying for a long time without any success.

WHAT IS YOUR NATIONALITY?!?!?!

1. Jews have not been institutionally discriminated against in the US.
2. You cannot use one example over our many.
3. ... ok?
4. I am curious whether impovershed families have higher single parent rates.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):
Then how did my parents get out of poverty? LOL

Remember $100 in the pocket and did not speak the native tongue.

Your parents did everything right, worked hard, were white, and got the breaks.

I am willing to bet the single parent stuff correlates with poverty just as well as it does with race. Meaning that poverty might cause single parenthood rather than the other way around.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 1:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 11:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 11:36:00 AM (view original):
Tang, you really need to learn what opportunity is. That student who dropped out to support his family made a choice. He had the opportunity to get a diploma and go to college. He made a choice not to. Please learn that everything that happens in life is a product of a choice. It will really make you a more effective person.

Fine. I concede. Most everyone has opportunity. You agree that equal opportunity does not exist?

No, I don't agree with that. Name one opportunity that whites have, that minorities don't. You and B_L have yet to name one.

LOL, pull your head out of the sand. Just because it "seems" like people have equal opportunities, doesn't in fact mean they do.


When the across the street neighbors from my grandparents were selling their house back in the late 70's, they showed it to a black family. Right after they showed it to the family, Mr. Parker rolled around to the neighbors telling them not to worry, there's no way he would sell it to the negros. In a perfect world, yes everyone as the same opportunities, but this is the real world, not the perfect world.

We don't live in the 70's. That was almost 50 years ago. That's the problem we're running into. The left keeps using arguments from the 60's and 70's. Times have changed. Are minorities still effected by those decades? Only if they allow themselves to be effected. The opportunities are more than there to live a productive, fruitful life.

Taint, B_L, and Tang have yet to name opportunity that whites have that minorities don't.

so it's your take that situations like this still don't occur in this day and age? cmon man, you're smarter than that.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/6/23/15855272/prri-study-white-christians-discrimination-blind-spot

As for strikeout, I just think that option #1 is way more likely, espescially bc of all the evidence we posted.

This bears repeating... A tweet from one of the foremost scientists in the US, who happens to be black...

Neil deGrasse Tyson? @neiltyson Jan 8

Studying those who succeed in spite of broken childhoods might be more illuminating than studying those who don’t succeed because of them.

4:49 AM - 8 Jan 2018

Posted by toddcommish on 1/16/2018 4:17:00 PM (view original):
This bears repeating... A tweet from one of the foremost scientists in the US, who happens to be black...

Neil deGrasse Tyson? @neiltyson Jan 8

Studying those who succeed in spite of broken childhoods might be more illuminating than studying those who don’t succeed because of them.

4:49 AM - 8 Jan 2018

I do agree with that.

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 3:13:00 PM (view original):
BL keeps ignoring this. Too Funny. I'll post again.

WHAT NATIONALITY ARE YOU?!!??!!?

What held Jews back in Europe and in the US? They somehow succeeded? You keep ignoring that fact. And it is not ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS.

DAMMIT. Collin Powell's kid probably has more opportunities than my kids. I can see you playing the wealth card but no the race card.

FACT is we are not any more racist today than we were in the 60s but in the 60s 20% of AA families had one parent. Today it is 70%.
FACT white kids with one parent are a lot less successful than AA kids with two parents.

It has nothing to do with race but culture. Don't become a single parent....If you want to go down that path. I am happy to help! If you just cry racism then I think you will be crying for a long time without any success.

WHAT IS YOUR NATIONALITY?!?!?!

1. Jews have not been institutionally discriminated against in the US.
2. You cannot use one example over our many.
3. ... ok?
4. I am curious whether impovershed families have higher single parent rates.

1) Tough to gauge because they are so successful but anti semitism does exist.
2) LeBron James kid, Herman Cain's kids, Ben Carson's kids, The Rock's kids, I can give you 1000s.
3) OK = Truth
4) Absolutely

I will stand side by side with you in a crusade to teach ALL kids to not become single parents.

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 4:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):
Then how did my parents get out of poverty? LOL

Remember $100 in the pocket and did not speak the native tongue.

Your parents did everything right, worked hard, were white, and got the breaks.

Name one break? They still are white. You missed the part about the swastikas and the calls of hate I see. Didn't speak the language.

You are a jerk. That was a terrible comment. Got the breaks? You mean made their own breaks!

Taint, I ll speak to you because BL and Tangy refuse to listen. I am Jewish and people hate / discriminate against me because of that. I don't care. I cannot control that or change their minds. My parents succeeded despite that. Their parents in the USSR had "JEW" stamped on their passports and could only go to certain schools and get certain jobs. They succeeded. I mean, sometimes you just need to overcome? Do you not?

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 3:13:00 PM (view original):
BL keeps ignoring this. Too Funny. I'll post again.

WHAT NATIONALITY ARE YOU?!!??!!?

What held Jews back in Europe and in the US? They somehow succeeded? You keep ignoring that fact. And it is not ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS.

DAMMIT. Collin Powell's kid probably has more opportunities than my kids. I can see you playing the wealth card but no the race card.

FACT is we are not any more racist today than we were in the 60s but in the 60s 20% of AA families had one parent. Today it is 70%.
FACT white kids with one parent are a lot less successful than AA kids with two parents.

It has nothing to do with race but culture. Don't become a single parent....If you want to go down that path. I am happy to help! If you just cry racism then I think you will be crying for a long time without any success.

WHAT IS YOUR NATIONALITY?!?!?!

1. Jews have not been institutionally discriminated against in the US.
2. You cannot use one example over our many.
3. ... ok?
4. I am curious whether impovershed families have higher single parent rates.

1) Tough to gauge because they are so successful but anti semitism does exist.
2) LeBron James kid, Herman Cain's kids, Ben Carson's kids, The Rock's kids, I can give you 1000s.
3) OK = Truth
4) Absolutely

I will stand side by side with you in a crusade to teach ALL kids to not become single parents.

1. ANTI SEMITISMISM IS NOT INSTITUTIONAL RACISM.
2. There are millions of people in the US. The vast majority of black people are poor.
3. Yes, that is a fact. So?
4. So maybe the issue is poverty and not race, thue, as I said before, your steps work to stay out of poverty and not to get out.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 4:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):
Then how did my parents get out of poverty? LOL

Remember $100 in the pocket and did not speak the native tongue.

Your parents did everything right, worked hard, were white, and got the breaks.

Name one break? They still are white. You missed the part about the swastikas and the calls of hate I see. Didn't speak the language.

You are a jerk. That was a terrible comment. Got the breaks? You mean made their own breaks!

I don't know what your parents went through. Great jon getting out. They did everything right. I bet they got lucky in some way.