Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:36:00 PM (view original):
Taint, I ll speak to you because BL and Tangy refuse to listen. I am Jewish and people hate / discriminate against me because of that. I don't care. I cannot control that or change their minds. My parents succeeded despite that. Their parents in the USSR had "JEW" stamped on their passports and could only go to certain schools and get certain jobs. They succeeded. I mean, sometimes you just need to overcome? Do you not?

Ofc. But it is not EQUAL IN THE US. I am sure that in the USSR Jews succeeded less. In Nazi Germany they succeeded less. It's not because the culture changed. It is because the racism changed.

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 4:38:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):
Then how did my parents get out of poverty? LOL

Remember $100 in the pocket and did not speak the native tongue.

Your parents did everything right, worked hard, were white, and got the breaks.

Name one break? They still are white. You missed the part about the swastikas and the calls of hate I see. Didn't speak the language.

You are a jerk. That was a terrible comment. Got the breaks? You mean made their own breaks!

I don't know what your parents went through. Great jon getting out. They did everything right. I bet they got lucky in some way.

Successful people make their own luck.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:40:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):
Then how did my parents get out of poverty? LOL

Remember $100 in the pocket and did not speak the native tongue.

Your parents did everything right, worked hard, were white, and got the breaks.

Name one break? They still are white. You missed the part about the swastikas and the calls of hate I see. Didn't speak the language.

You are a jerk. That was a terrible comment. Got the breaks? You mean made their own breaks!

I don't know what your parents went through. Great jon getting out. They did everything right. I bet they got lucky in some way.

Successful people make their own luck.

Every successful person got lucky in some way.

Tangy has yet to give me one iota of proof of institutional racism today. Just zip code racism. LOL

Tangy be struggling. Tangy be bad at this. Poor Tangy. :(

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Tangy has yet to give me one iota of proof of institutional racism today. Just zip code racism. LOL

Tangy be struggling. Tangy be bad at this. Poor Tangy. :(

Redlining.

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 4:41:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):
Then how did my parents get out of poverty? LOL

Remember $100 in the pocket and did not speak the native tongue.

Your parents did everything right, worked hard, were white, and got the breaks.

Name one break? They still are white. You missed the part about the swastikas and the calls of hate I see. Didn't speak the language.

You are a jerk. That was a terrible comment. Got the breaks? You mean made their own breaks!

I don't know what your parents went through. Great jon getting out. They did everything right. I bet they got lucky in some way.

Successful people make their own luck.

Every successful person got lucky in some way.

So then it is not a white/black thing if EVERY person gets some.

Again follow three steps

#1) Graduate HS
#2) Don't be a single parent
#3) Get a job

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:56:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/16/2018 2:20:00 PM (view original):
What is keeping blacks and hispanics from moving to better school districts and wealthier, low crime neighborhoods?

Money... Space..

Money, yes. Space, no. That's my point. If they follow CCCP's steps, they will have enough of it to make the move. The one's who make the right choices do.

I coached 2 black kids in baseball. Both were tremendous FB players. Both from the same poor neighborhood. Both were smart kids. One is a junior at Duke who is about to graduate in 3 years with a double major. He redshirted his freshman year, so he has 2 years left of eligibility. He will get his grad school paid for by Duke while he finishes his FB career. The other signed with Auburn. Couldn't stay out of trouble and was back home after his 1st semester running the streets.

I also coached 2 black twins, Mon and Quan. Loved both of these kids. Same household, same poor neighborhood. Quan is about to graduate from college. Mon is in jail.

Its all about personal choice. Your circumstances don't define you. The opportunity is there for everyone to succeed. Tang, When you start taking personal accountability a little more seriously, you are going to do some great things for a lot of people. Stop blaming the institution and raise your expectations of the individual.

Again, the fact that some black people succeed doesn't disprove institutional racism.

Looking at the population as a whole, black people are far more likely to be poor, end up in prison, etc.

The explanation for this lands in one of two places:

1) Black people, as a whole, are inferior and worse at things like decision making, money management, school, etc.
2) Society is somehow impacting the ability of blacks to succeed.

Which do you think is more likely, strikeout?

I understand that this is a bait question, but I'll take it and then you can enjoy falsely accusing me of being racist.

Black people, as a whole, tend to make poorer choices. I understand that steps were taken to put them in a poor situation, but the opportunity to get out of that poor situation is well within reach. I love statistics in most situations, but not here. As you have witnessed, I am HUGE on personal choice. You can't look at all encompassing stats when talking about personal choice. Every choice comes with a consequence. Natural consequences don't see race.

Circling back to this, the socioeconomic results of blacks aren't "natural consequences." That implies there isn't anything putting them at a disadvantage, when we know they are at a disadvantage.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Tangy has yet to give me one iota of proof of institutional racism today. Just zip code racism. LOL

Tangy be struggling. Tangy be bad at this. Poor Tangy. :(

Redlining.

Nope. Thats zip code based. Try again.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):
Then how did my parents get out of poverty? LOL

Remember $100 in the pocket and did not speak the native tongue.

Your parents did everything right, worked hard, were white, and got the breaks.

Name one break? They still are white. You missed the part about the swastikas and the calls of hate I see. Didn't speak the language.

You are a jerk. That was a terrible comment. Got the breaks? You mean made their own breaks!

I don't know what your parents went through. Great jon getting out. They did everything right. I bet they got lucky in some way.

Successful people make their own luck.

Every successful person got lucky in some way.

So then it is not a white/black thing if EVERY person gets some.

Again follow three steps

#1) Graduate HS
#2) Don't be a single parent
#3) Get a job

Follow the 3 steps to STAY OUT OF POVERTY. Not get out. That difference has been made very clear AND all 3 steps have been disproven.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:42:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Tangy has yet to give me one iota of proof of institutional racism today. Just zip code racism. LOL

Tangy be struggling. Tangy be bad at this. Poor Tangy. :(

Redlining.

Nope. Thats zip code based. Try again.

It's race based. The goal of it is to keep black people out, the creator was a blatant racist. He literally said so. You will not win this argument.

No no get out. I have given you multiple examples of companies who will hire HS graduates and they can make around $75k/year here in MA. Think about it. If you graduate HS, don't have a kid and are open to employment the world is your oyster. I just met with a client today who said they cannot find laborers anywhere. Paying $20/hour. Not a bad starting gig.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Tangy has yet to give me one iota of proof of institutional racism today. Just zip code racism. LOL

Tangy be struggling. Tangy be bad at this. Poor Tangy. :(

Redlining.

Nope. Thats zip code based. Try again.

It's race based. The goal of it is to keep black people out, the creator was a blatant racist. He literally said so. You will not win this argument.

I did win. That was then this is now. It is 100% zip code based. African Americans. Hell Martians can move into my neighborhood at any time. ZERO REDLINING.

Posted by tangplay on 1/16/2018 4:47:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Tangy has yet to give me one iota of proof of institutional racism today. Just zip code racism. LOL

Tangy be struggling. Tangy be bad at this. Poor Tangy. :(

Redlining.

Nope. Thats zip code based. Try again.

It's race based. The goal of it is to keep black people out, the creator was a blatant racist. He literally said so. You will not win this argument.

Who has a better chance of buying a house:

#1) African American family making $300k per year

#2) Some single white parent from Maine who makes $30k per year?

NOT RACE BASED. ZIP CODE BASED!

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:48:00 PM (view original):
No no get out. I have given you multiple examples of companies who will hire HS graduates and they can make around $75k/year here in MA. Think about it. If you graduate HS, don't have a kid and are open to employment the world is your oyster. I just met with a client today who said they cannot find laborers anywhere. Paying $20/hour. Not a bad starting gig.

We don't have that in KS. Most jobs are bad and/or low paying.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/16/2018 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Tangy has yet to give me one iota of proof of institutional racism today. Just zip code racism. LOL

Tangy be struggling. Tangy be bad at this. Poor Tangy. :(

Redlining.

Nope. Thats zip code based. Try again.

It's race based. The goal of it is to keep black people out, the creator was a blatant racist. He literally said so. You will not win this argument.

I did win. That was then this is now. It is 100% zip code based. African Americans. Hell Martians can move into my neighborhood at any time. ZERO REDLINING.

Did you read ANY of the many articles Taint and I posted that provided specific examples of how redlining still exists?