Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):
Bob, my wife wanted 4 kids. We settled on two because of the cost. Common sense man! Common sense!

I want a Ferrari but I cannot afford it. Want and need are different things and adults should be held responsible. Tangy believes that people who can't afford kids should still have them and that the Gov't should support them. Sadly.

Obviously common sense laws. My point was that if we live in a system where some people financially cannot afford to have 2 kids, that system needs to change.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 9:39:00 AM (view original):
Our school system has cut foreign languages for middle school. More Gov't incompetence and inability to balance a budget. Parents are ready to charge with pitchforks.

Our high school used to have 3 foreign languages, a flourishing debate and forensics program, and a good art program. Now we just have Spanish and barely a budget for regular classes. Thanks, Brownback.

Again the less the Govt interferes the better off we all are.

That is a bad conclusion to take. Government interference actually helps if they give more money. Without government interference the problem gets worse.

I mean the people who run the schools as the Gov't not outside influence of the Gov't.

I am saying that the federal government needs to intervene.

Federal? How about the state keeping towns accountable?

The state has other priorities. That's why states are already messing up the budget so much. They are always gonna cut the school budgets.

OMG

Follow the steps:

1) We pay high RE taxes
2) Town cries the school budget is not balanced they want more $$
3) We ask why
4) Crickets

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 11:01:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):
Bob, my wife wanted 4 kids. We settled on two because of the cost. Common sense man! Common sense!

I want a Ferrari but I cannot afford it. Want and need are different things and adults should be held responsible. Tangy believes that people who can't afford kids should still have them and that the Gov't should support them. Sadly.

Obviously common sense laws. My point was that if we live in a system where some people financially cannot afford to have 2 kids, that system needs to change.

Or they have 1 kid? LOL

It is not the system it is worth ethic.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:59:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 12:30:00 AM (view original):
I'm telling you, government can't fix poverty issues. This is going to have to come through proactivity in the individual communities. This is not a race issue. I live in a poor white community. It has the same issues as a poor black or Hispanic community. Poor financial choices are very apparent. Why do you think you don't see check cashing or title pawn places in wealthy neighborhoods?

I have been suggesting programs like Circles of Hope this whole time.

Yes you have. I am not sure what it is,but it sounds like a good thing. I'm guessing it's a private organization. The problem is for 1 post that you post about a private organization, you have 50 about we need more government this or that. Think deeper about how the private sector can have an impact and you'll be on the right track.

I never argued that the government needed to pass regulations on poverty. Government regulations will not solve poverty. They can solve school funding.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 9:39:00 AM (view original):
Our school system has cut foreign languages for middle school. More Gov't incompetence and inability to balance a budget. Parents are ready to charge with pitchforks.

Our high school used to have 3 foreign languages, a flourishing debate and forensics program, and a good art program. Now we just have Spanish and barely a budget for regular classes. Thanks, Brownback.

Again the less the Govt interferes the better off we all are.

That is a bad conclusion to take. Government interference actually helps if they give more money. Without government interference the problem gets worse.

I mean the people who run the schools as the Gov't not outside influence of the Gov't.

I am saying that the federal government needs to intervene.

Federal? How about the state keeping towns accountable?

The state has other priorities. That's why states are already messing up the budget so much. They are always gonna cut the school budgets.

OMG

Follow the steps:

1) We pay high RE taxes
2) Town cries the school budget is not balanced they want more $$
3) We ask why
4) Crickets

Steps:
1)State cuts school funding
2)Local Schools pay through property taxes
3)Property Taxes cause massive funding disparities

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 10:35:00 AM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 1/17/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
The city SD nearest me (about 5 miles) has a Board who would rather spend money on a $1 million football field, a new baseball field, and constantly sending athletic teams to other States to play games, than on books and proper heat. Why? Because that's what the majority of parents want prioritized. It's not an issue of funding, it's an issue of priorities of the residents within the district. I'd suspect this isn't the only city SD where this happens.

That's true for some schools. It is the exception to the rule.

Maybe in Kansas. If you're ever in GA, find 5 local high schools within your vicinity and check out their sports complexes. It will blow your mind. The benefit is we turn out some friggin athletes. Like all3 said, it's what the community normally wants.

The town that I grew up in has about 8500 people. They average about 5000 per HS football game.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):
Bob, my wife wanted 4 kids. We settled on two because of the cost. Common sense man! Common sense!

I want a Ferrari but I cannot afford it. Want and need are different things and adults should be held responsible. Tangy believes that people who can't afford kids should still have them and that the Gov't should support them. Sadly.

Obviously common sense laws. My point was that if we live in a system where some people financially cannot afford to have 2 kids, that system needs to change.

Or they have 1 kid? LOL

It is not the system it is worth ethic.

Again, you just claimed that all poor people are lazy, or have a poor 'worth' ethic.

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Posted by all3 on 1/17/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
The city SD nearest me (about 5 miles) has a Board who would rather spend money on a $1 million football field, a new baseball field, and constantly sending athletic teams to other States to play games, than on books and proper heat. Why? Because that's what the majority of parents want prioritized. It's not an issue of funding, it's an issue of priorities of the residents within the district. I'd suspect this isn't the only city SD where this happens.

That's true for some schools. It is the exception to the rule.

Maybe in Kansas. If you're ever in GA, find 5 local high schools within your vicinity and check out their sports complexes. It will blow your mind. The benefit is we turn out some friggin athletes. Like all3 said, it's what the community normally wants.

The town that I grew up in has about 8500 people. They average about 5000 per HS football game.

The school I went to has the best complex in Kansas but we are super poor. Most schools don't have that. Either way my point still stands.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):
Bob, my wife wanted 4 kids. We settled on two because of the cost. Common sense man! Common sense!

I want a Ferrari but I cannot afford it. Want and need are different things and adults should be held responsible. Tangy believes that people who can't afford kids should still have them and that the Gov't should support them. Sadly.

Yep. Common sense, you used it Boris.

But, it's easy to NOT buy that Ferrari using just common sense. Nobody is gonna give you one unless you pay them a lot of cash for it.
That's NOT the way it works with babies.

You know damn well how it works! 2 people, one act, brought about by whatever inspiration often overcomes that notion of common sense (IF even usable when the correct stimulus is involved lol) by even folks with strong common sense. People make mistakes, even good people. More choice is required..........not less! And preferably EDUCATION to prevent unwanted pregnancy should be widespread. The rhythm method is only as good as the KNOWLEDGE of the users...........meaning that method is pretty risky.......... but there ARE others that work........... I can't understand WHY some entity would advise NOT to use them!

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):
Bob, my wife wanted 4 kids. We settled on two because of the cost. Common sense man! Common sense!

I want a Ferrari but I cannot afford it. Want and need are different things and adults should be held responsible. Tangy believes that people who can't afford kids should still have them and that the Gov't should support them. Sadly.

Obviously common sense laws. My point was that if we live in a system where some people financially cannot afford to have 2 kids, that system needs to change.

Why?

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 11:08:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):
Bob, my wife wanted 4 kids. We settled on two because of the cost. Common sense man! Common sense!

I want a Ferrari but I cannot afford it. Want and need are different things and adults should be held responsible. Tangy believes that people who can't afford kids should still have them and that the Gov't should support them. Sadly.

Obviously common sense laws. My point was that if we live in a system where some people financially cannot afford to have 2 kids, that system needs to change.

Why?

Because I firmly believe that a human right exists to have babies.

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Posted by all3 on 1/17/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
The city SD nearest me (about 5 miles) has a Board who would rather spend money on a $1 million football field, a new baseball field, and constantly sending athletic teams to other States to play games, than on books and proper heat. Why? Because that's what the majority of parents want prioritized. It's not an issue of funding, it's an issue of priorities of the residents within the district. I'd suspect this isn't the only city SD where this happens.

That's true for some schools. It is the exception to the rule.

Maybe in Kansas. If you're ever in GA, find 5 local high schools within your vicinity and check out their sports complexes. It will blow your mind. The benefit is we turn out some friggin athletes. Like all3 said, it's what the community normally wants.

The town that I grew up in has about 8500 people. They average about 5000 per HS football game.

The school I went to has the best complex in Kansas but we are super poor. Most schools don't have that. Either way my point still stands.

Like I said, come to the SE. Almost every school has multi million dollar facilities. Would you like me to start posting pics?

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Posted by all3 on 1/17/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
The city SD nearest me (about 5 miles) has a Board who would rather spend money on a $1 million football field, a new baseball field, and constantly sending athletic teams to other States to play games, than on books and proper heat. Why? Because that's what the majority of parents want prioritized. It's not an issue of funding, it's an issue of priorities of the residents within the district. I'd suspect this isn't the only city SD where this happens.

That's true for some schools. It is the exception to the rule.

Maybe in Kansas. If you're ever in GA, find 5 local high schools within your vicinity and check out their sports complexes. It will blow your mind. The benefit is we turn out some friggin athletes. Like all3 said, it's what the community normally wants.

The town that I grew up in has about 8500 people. They average about 5000 per HS football game.

The school I went to has the best complex in Kansas but we are super poor. Most schools don't have that. Either way my point still stands.

Like I said, come to the SE. Almost every school has multi million dollar facilities. Would you like me to start posting pics?

OK, great. School funding takes that into consideration.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):
Bob, my wife wanted 4 kids. We settled on two because of the cost. Common sense man! Common sense!

I want a Ferrari but I cannot afford it. Want and need are different things and adults should be held responsible. Tangy believes that people who can't afford kids should still have them and that the Gov't should support them. Sadly.

Obviously common sense laws. My point was that if we live in a system where some people financially cannot afford to have 2 kids, that system needs to change.

Why?

Because I firmly believe that a human right exists to have babies.

You do realize that there has never been a form of economy that has eliminated poverty, correct? I hope you realize that no matter what form of government or economic system your country has there will always be poor people.

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Posted by all3 on 1/17/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
The city SD nearest me (about 5 miles) has a Board who would rather spend money on a $1 million football field, a new baseball field, and constantly sending athletic teams to other States to play games, than on books and proper heat. Why? Because that's what the majority of parents want prioritized. It's not an issue of funding, it's an issue of priorities of the residents within the district. I'd suspect this isn't the only city SD where this happens.

That's true for some schools. It is the exception to the rule.

Maybe in Kansas. If you're ever in GA, find 5 local high schools within your vicinity and check out their sports complexes. It will blow your mind. The benefit is we turn out some friggin athletes. Like all3 said, it's what the community normally wants.

The town that I grew up in has about 8500 people. They average about 5000 per HS football game.

The school I went to has the best complex in Kansas but we are super poor. Most schools don't have that. Either way my point still stands.

Like I said, come to the SE. Almost every school has multi million dollar facilities. Would you like me to start posting pics?

OK, great. School funding takes that into consideration.

You'll have to explain that a little further. That doesn't make any sense.