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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

How is their priority money?

In my opinion, STEM classes are more important than arts with the direction and prevalence of technology today, but those classes are practically pointless in their current format. They are nothing more than electives that the kids don't take seriously.

Just look at school funding disparities. You already mentioned that they spend on athletic facilities.

In my opinion STEM should be electives. Math, Science, Technology, etc are all job related. Electives should be job specific. Arts help literally everyone.

In the second half of your second point were you talking about STEM or arts classes?

I agree. And I was talking about stem.

As as far as money that could be used for education going to athletics, while I don't think it's right, more times than not it's what the community wants. It's unfortunate, but you can't force people to want to get smarter.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 8:41:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

How is their priority money?

In my opinion, STEM classes are more important than arts with the direction and prevalence of technology today, but those classes are practically pointless in their current format. They are nothing more than electives that the kids don't take seriously.

Just look at school funding disparities. You already mentioned that they spend on athletic facilities.

In my opinion STEM should be electives. Math, Science, Technology, etc are all job related. Electives should be job specific. Arts help literally everyone.

In the second half of your second point were you talking about STEM or arts classes?

I agree. And I was talking about stem.

As as far as money that could be used for education going to athletics, while I don't think it's right, more times than not it's what the community wants. It's unfortunate, but you can't force people to want to get smarter.

Smarter???

Who's got a Tide Pod I can borrow?

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 8:31:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:17:00 PM (view original):
It's amazing how different regions value different levels of sports. The North and west love their pro sports. The south and southeast love the college game. I guess it's a product of who's good at what. Our pro teams are less than desirable, but we run the show in college. Cali has some decent college baseball. Fullerton is always really good. I find the college game to be much more pure. I can't watch the NFL anymore. It feels like every game someone is being carted off with a back or neck injury.

I think that the NFL id better than College Football and College Basketball tops the NBA.

I just don't enjoy watching the Shazier incidents and it seems like they are becoming more and more common.

People get injured in college too. Football is violent.

True, but not at the rate of NFL players. I understand that they make the choice to play while fully understanding the risk, I just choose not to watch it on a regular basis. I'll catch a game every now and then.

In my opinion the NFL is just better. The style of play is 100000 times better. College football, 99% of the time, ends with scores like 45-17 or scores like 10-3. NFL games are more fun to watch because of the parity, and every player is one of the greatest in the world. It also helps that I don't really have a good C Football team to watch. Kansas? Nope. I love the Chiefs in the NFL though. It's the opposite in the basketball world. Kansas and Wichita State are really good, and unless the Kansas City Kings get brought back (#BRINGBACKKCK), there is no NBA team to latch on to.

I see your point and I'm not saying that college is better. I'm just saying that I enjoy it more. Part of it is seeing players that I have coached or knew playing on the big stage. I think the other part is that amateur sports in this area as a whole are really good. If I had to watch Kansas or K State play, i'd probably prefer the chiefs as well.

Wichita State is fun to watch, aren't they. They aren't even that talented in my opinion, but they play so friggin hard.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 2:41:00 PM (view original):
Yep, and I'm a country boy from GA. B_L has certainly tried to turn that on me a time or to. Although, I'm not sure anyone from California should be making fun of anybody else's state.

Lets compare:
They have a coast. We have a coast.
His state is poor, so is mine.
His State contributes significant amounts of welfare, so does mine.
His state has a movie industry, which guess what, is rapidly moving to my state.
My state can balance a budget, his can't.
His state has arguably the best secondary education in the country. Outside of Emory and GA Tech, ours sucks.
We whip his *** in sports.
Sounds pretty even to me.

I didn't try to turn it on you. I said I wasn't surprised that a guy from Georgia thinks racism isn't a thing and blacks are only worse off due to their own actions.

But, no, GA and CA are really not comparable.

Alaska also has a coast. Let's not pretend all coasts are the same.
CA isn't poor. Not sure what you're measuring there.
What do you mean "contributes significant amounts to welfare?"
The economic impact of Georgia's film industry is est $6 billion. California's is $300 billion.
A balanced budget isn't everything. Sometimes there are other priorities.
Yep.
Really? Through the 2017 world series, California has 30 major league sports championships. GA has 1.
Nope. Not even.

Yalls coast is better, oh well.

California has the highest cost of living adjusted poverty rate in the country at 20.6%. Sounds pretty poor to me. You even said yourself that outside of the big cities, there is no money.

Yall have had a film industry for much longer. Of course it's going to be bigger. That pendulum is swinging because y'all want to tax people and companies to oblivion,

Im going to try not balancing my budgets in my businesses since it's no big deal. Let's see how that works out.

Im a college sports guy. We (the southeast) own every college sport, hockey and basketball excluded. Pro sports are a mixture of talent from all over the country. College sports are mostly local talent.

Todd's right. You are an angry person. Try having some fun for once.

Did you know that California has a projected 6.1 billion dollar budget surplus come end of fiscal year in July?...projected to be 18 billion after in July 2019.

Crap, now I have to google what the hell a tide pod is. Thanks a lot, Taint.

Posted by The Taint on 1/17/2018 8:46:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 2:41:00 PM (view original):
Yep, and I'm a country boy from GA. B_L has certainly tried to turn that on me a time or to. Although, I'm not sure anyone from California should be making fun of anybody else's state.

Lets compare:
They have a coast. We have a coast.
His state is poor, so is mine.
His State contributes significant amounts of welfare, so does mine.
His state has a movie industry, which guess what, is rapidly moving to my state.
My state can balance a budget, his can't.
His state has arguably the best secondary education in the country. Outside of Emory and GA Tech, ours sucks.
We whip his *** in sports.
Sounds pretty even to me.

I didn't try to turn it on you. I said I wasn't surprised that a guy from Georgia thinks racism isn't a thing and blacks are only worse off due to their own actions.

But, no, GA and CA are really not comparable.

Alaska also has a coast. Let's not pretend all coasts are the same.
CA isn't poor. Not sure what you're measuring there.
What do you mean "contributes significant amounts to welfare?"
The economic impact of Georgia's film industry is est $6 billion. California's is $300 billion.
A balanced budget isn't everything. Sometimes there are other priorities.
Yep.
Really? Through the 2017 world series, California has 30 major league sports championships. GA has 1.
Nope. Not even.

Yalls coast is better, oh well.

California has the highest cost of living adjusted poverty rate in the country at 20.6%. Sounds pretty poor to me. You even said yourself that outside of the big cities, there is no money.

Yall have had a film industry for much longer. Of course it's going to be bigger. That pendulum is swinging because y'all want to tax people and companies to oblivion,

Im going to try not balancing my budgets in my businesses since it's no big deal. Let's see how that works out.

Im a college sports guy. We (the southeast) own every college sport, hockey and basketball excluded. Pro sports are a mixture of talent from all over the country. College sports are mostly local talent.

Todd's right. You are an angry person. Try having some fun for once.

Did you know that California has a projected 6.1 billion dollar budget surplus come end of fiscal year in July?...projected to be 18 billion after in July 2019.

That's awesome. Glad to hear that.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 8:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 1/17/2018 8:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 4:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/17/2018 4:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 2:41:00 PM (view original):
Yep, and I'm a country boy from GA. B_L has certainly tried to turn that on me a time or to. Although, I'm not sure anyone from California should be making fun of anybody else's state.

Lets compare:
They have a coast. We have a coast.
His state is poor, so is mine.
His State contributes significant amounts of welfare, so does mine.
His state has a movie industry, which guess what, is rapidly moving to my state.
My state can balance a budget, his can't.
His state has arguably the best secondary education in the country. Outside of Emory and GA Tech, ours sucks.
We whip his *** in sports.
Sounds pretty even to me.

I didn't try to turn it on you. I said I wasn't surprised that a guy from Georgia thinks racism isn't a thing and blacks are only worse off due to their own actions.

But, no, GA and CA are really not comparable.

Alaska also has a coast. Let's not pretend all coasts are the same.
CA isn't poor. Not sure what you're measuring there.
What do you mean "contributes significant amounts to welfare?"
The economic impact of Georgia's film industry is est $6 billion. California's is $300 billion.
A balanced budget isn't everything. Sometimes there are other priorities.
Yep.
Really? Through the 2017 world series, California has 30 major league sports championships. GA has 1.
Nope. Not even.

Yalls coast is better, oh well.

California has the highest cost of living adjusted poverty rate in the country at 20.6%. Sounds pretty poor to me. You even said yourself that outside of the big cities, there is no money.

Yall have had a film industry for much longer. Of course it's going to be bigger. That pendulum is swinging because y'all want to tax people and companies to oblivion,

Im going to try not balancing my budgets in my businesses since it's no big deal. Let's see how that works out.

Im a college sports guy. We (the southeast) own every college sport, hockey and basketball excluded. Pro sports are a mixture of talent from all over the country. College sports are mostly local talent.

Todd's right. You are an angry person. Try having some fun for once.

Did you know that California has a projected 6.1 billion dollar budget surplus come end of fiscal year in July?...projected to be 18 billion after in July 2019.

That's awesome. Glad to hear that.

It is, Old Jerry cleaned up the mess The Governator left behind.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 8:47:00 PM (view original):
Crap, now I have to google what the hell a tide pod is. Thanks a lot, Taint.

Haha. I'm a dumbass. Laundry detergent. Still apparently not smart enough to get your joke.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 8:47:00 PM (view original):
Crap, now I have to google what the hell a tide pod is. Thanks a lot, Taint.

It's pretty insane

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 8:41:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

How is their priority money?

In my opinion, STEM classes are more important than arts with the direction and prevalence of technology today, but those classes are practically pointless in their current format. They are nothing more than electives that the kids don't take seriously.

Just look at school funding disparities. You already mentioned that they spend on athletic facilities.

In my opinion STEM should be electives. Math, Science, Technology, etc are all job related. Electives should be job specific. Arts help literally everyone.

In the second half of your second point were you talking about STEM or arts classes?

I agree. And I was talking about stem.

As as far as money that could be used for education going to athletics, while I don't think it's right, more times than not it's what the community wants. It's unfortunate, but you can't force people to want to get smarter.

Soooo local school funding is not the way to go.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):
Bad Luck is one old angry man. Geez.

What nationality are you?

From what I can deduce he's a 40ish, white male.

And apparently a scratch golfer.

And a really bad person.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:17:00 PM (view original):
It's amazing how different regions value different levels of sports. The North and west love their pro sports. The south and southeast love the college game. I guess it's a product of who's good at what. Our pro teams are less than desirable, but we run the show in college. Cali has some decent college baseball. Fullerton is always really good. I find the college game to be much more pure. I can't watch the NFL anymore. It feels like every game someone is being carted off with a back or neck injury.

I think that the NFL id better than College Football and College Basketball tops the NBA.

I just don't enjoy watching the Shazier incidents and it seems like they are becoming more and more common.

People get injured in college too. Football is violent.

True, but not at the rate of NFL players. I understand that they make the choice to play while fully understanding the risk, I just choose not to watch it on a regular basis. I'll catch a game every now and then.

In my opinion the NFL is just better. The style of play is 100000 times better. College football, 99% of the time, ends with scores like 45-17 or scores like 10-3. NFL games are more fun to watch because of the parity, and every player is one of the greatest in the world. It also helps that I don't really have a good C Football team to watch. Kansas? Nope. I love the Chiefs in the NFL though. It's the opposite in the basketball world. Kansas and Wichita State are really good, and unless the Kansas City Kings get brought back (#BRINGBACKKCK), there is no NBA team to latch on to.

I see your point and I'm not saying that college is better. I'm just saying that I enjoy it more. Part of it is seeing players that I have coached or knew playing on the big stage. I think the other part is that amateur sports in this area as a whole are really good. If I had to watch Kansas or K State play, i'd probably prefer the chiefs as well.

Wichita State is fun to watch, aren't they. They aren't even that talented in my opinion, but they play so friggin hard.

I can respect that. It's just a matter of personal preference.

Greg Marshall is a magic man. Didn't get the win today though.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 9:20:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):
Bad Luck is one old angry man. Geez.

What nationality are you?

From what I can deduce he's a 40ish, white male.

And apparently a scratch golfer.

And a really bad person.

DID YOU KNOW THAT I AM JEWISH SO I AM SUPERIOR TO YOU?

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 9:20:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):
Bad Luck is one old angry man. Geez.

What nationality are you?

From what I can deduce he's a 40ish, white male.

And apparently a scratch golfer.

And a really bad person.

Nah, I don't think so. Just an angry and cynical person.

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 9:19:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

How is their priority money?

In my opinion, STEM classes are more important than arts with the direction and prevalence of technology today, but those classes are practically pointless in their current format. They are nothing more than electives that the kids don't take seriously.

Just look at school funding disparities. You already mentioned that they spend on athletic facilities.

In my opinion STEM should be electives. Math, Science, Technology, etc are all job related. Electives should be job specific. Arts help literally everyone.

In the second half of your second point were you talking about STEM or arts classes?

I agree. And I was talking about stem.

As as far as money that could be used for education going to athletics, while I don't think it's right, more times than not it's what the community wants. It's unfortunate, but you can't force people to want to get smarter.

Soooo local school funding is not the way to go.

So, you don't think each community should be free to choose how their tax dollars are spent even if we don't agree with their choice?