Posted by bad_luck on 1/17/2018 9:50:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 1/17/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):
Bad Luck is one old angry man. Geez.

What nationality are you?

From what I can deduce he's a 40ish, white male.

And apparently a scratch golfer.

And a really bad person.

You’re just angry that I exposed you as a financial idiot.

You are the one that is angry. Financial or taxation? LOL

What nationality are you? And you didn't expose anything I just misspoke. I admitted my mistake, it is OK. I am not perfect. You sir, are a bad person.

Posted by toddcommish on 1/17/2018 10:15:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

Ahhhh, this is the disconnect. Tang thinks that arts and humanities are more important than technically complex, vocationally relevant courses.

That's why his world is filled with poverty and humanities degrees. While the rest of the civilized world moves ahead with their emphasis on Math and Science and Computer skills, Tang will be living in a box next to Cresty with his Etruscan Literature degree.

THIS!

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 8:49:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

Tangy, with all due respect you are one of the dumbest people I have seen online. EVER. Honestly. Delusional, dumb and uninformed. You seem like a decent human being but way out of touch with reality.

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 8:49:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

If they want to screw up their community. It is only affecting them. The fed govt screws up the whole country.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/18/2018 9:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 8:49:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 11:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

Tangy, with all due respect you are one of the dumbest people I have seen online. EVER. Honestly. Delusional, dumb and uninformed. You seem like a decent human being but way out of touch with reality.

Why am I wrong? Explain your points instead of just being angry.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/18/2018 9:31:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 8:49:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 11:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

If they want to screw up their community. It is only affecting them. The fed govt screws up the whole country.

But in this case they would not screw it up.

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/18/2018 9:12:00 AM (view original):

Posted by toddcommish on 1/17/2018 10:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 8:14:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 6:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

Ahhhh, this is the disconnect. Tang thinks that arts and humanities are more important than technically complex, vocationally relevant courses.

That's why his world is filled with poverty and humanities degrees. While the rest of the civilized world moves ahead with their emphasis on Math and Science and Computer skills, Tang will be living in a box next to Cresty with his Etruscan Literature degree.

THIS!

Are you a biologist? If not, you did not benefit from science either.

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 9:53:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/18/2018 9:31:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 8:49:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 11:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

If they want to screw up their community. It is only affecting them. The fed govt screws up the whole country.

But in this case they would not screw it up.

So, they screwed up no child left behind and they screwed up common core, but the third times a charm? As I said, every solution that you have had involves the government except for circle of hope. You will not be fruitful in your efforts to help people until you become proactive and eliminate the government mindset. Government makes situations worse.

If you feel that the arts are important, find like-minded people with financial backing and knowledge and offer it in your community. You could start it locally and over time expand it regionally and nationally. This is how real change occurs.

As far as stem vs. the arts, I actually think a liberal arts education works pretty well, but it sounds like you're discounting the prevalence of technology in today's society.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/18/2018 10:08:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

If they want to screw up their community. It is only affecting them. The fed govt screws up the whole country.

But in this case they would not screw it up.

So, they screwed up no child left behind and they screwed up common core, but the third times a charm? As I said, every solution that you have had involves the government except for circle of hope. You will not be fruitful in your efforts to help people until you become proactive and eliminate the government mindset. Government makes situations worse.

If you feel that the arts are important, find like-minded people with financial backing and knowledge and offer it in your community. You could start it locally and over time expand it regionally and nationally. This is how real change occurs.

Except the FEAEC report corrects this. It states that failed government reforms are because of lack of oversight. This plan creates a federal oversight group that guarantees success.

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/18/2018 10:10:00 AM (view original):
As far as stem vs. the arts, I actually think a liberal arts education works pretty well, but it sounds like you're discounting the prevalence of technology in today's society.

Engineering and tech jobs are being taken over by robots. Elective. Career centric.

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/18/2018 9:12:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 6:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

Ahhhh, this is the disconnect. Tang thinks that arts and humanities are more important than technically complex, vocationally relevant courses.

That's why his world is filled with poverty and humanities degrees. While the rest of the civilized world moves ahead with their emphasis on Math and Science and Computer skills, Tang will be living in a box next to Cresty with his Etruscan Literature degree.

THIS!

Are you a biologist? If not, you did not benefit from science either.

Only biologists benefit from science? LOL

What about chemists?

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/18/2018 10:13:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 8:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 7:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 6:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

Ahhhh, this is the disconnect. Tang thinks that arts and humanities are more important than technically complex, vocationally relevant courses.

That's why his world is filled with poverty and humanities degrees. While the rest of the civilized world moves ahead with their emphasis on Math and Science and Computer skills, Tang will be living in a box next to Cresty with his Etruscan Literature degree.

THIS!

Are you a biologist? If not, you did not benefit from science either.

Only biologists benefit from science? LOL

What about chemists?

I was quoting BL. Yes you are right. Chemists and scientists obviously. My point is that it is career centric and should not be required in HS.

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 9:36:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 1/18/2018 9:13:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 11:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 11:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 10:25:00 PM (view original):
If the fed govt gets most things wrong, why do you expect if they're given control of this they will get it right?

The FEAEC plan involves federal oversight which will ensure that the plan allows for success.

Once again, your faith in the federal government astounds me.

Your faith in local governments astounds me

Tangy, with all due respect you are one of the dumbest people I have seen online. EVER. Honestly. Delusional, dumb and uninformed. You seem like a decent human being but way out of touch with reality.

Why am I wrong? Explain your points instead of just being angry.

Angry? I am far from angry. You are who you are:

1. You believe that all true Christians are pacifists.
2. You don't understand capitalism at all.
3. You believe that there is institutional racism when I have proven that it is wealthism
4. You believe that people who cannot afford kids should still have them
5. You believe it is the Government's job to solve the issue of poverty but your solution is more school funding vs. holding the parents more accountable.
6. You don't believe there is anti semitism or not to a degree that really exists out there.
7. You won't acknowledge that Jews faced many hardships but excelled and outpaced MOST non Jews in the US and globally. When you sort of lean that way you attribute it to luck.

On the positive note:

1. You are willing to listen (although not hear) the opposing arguments
2. Your heart is in the right place
3. You agree that Bad_Luck is delusional for calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist.

How is that?

Posted by tangplay on 1/18/2018 10:14:00 AM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 1/17/2018 6:54:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/17/2018 6:16:00 PM (view original):
Tang, feed my curiosity. Outside of funding, what reform do you feel is needed in public education?

Well, part of the FEAEC report is Mental Heath reforms in schools and oversight in school reforms. I would like to see STEM burn in a fire, and overhaul the required classes in schools. I also think we need less testing and teaching to the test

I will have to look up the first part, but why the hatred for STEM? I agree about the classes and the testing. I think testing is important to gauge progress, but the current format is ridiculous. As far as classes, I would see them become more relevant and practical. They should offer financial responsibility and training classes. I'm pretty sure a lot of schools have cut home economic courses.

All in all, I think more power needs to be given back to local districts. The academic leaders in the communities know much better what their children need than buearocrats in Washington.

In short, STEM kills the arts and creativity, which are far more important than STEM classes.

I was thinking the exact same thing with classes.

I am cautious about local districts. Their priority is parents and money.

Ahhhh, this is the disconnect. Tang thinks that arts and humanities are more important than technically complex, vocationally relevant courses.

That's why his world is filled with poverty and humanities degrees. While the rest of the civilized world moves ahead with their emphasis on Math and Science and Computer skills, Tang will be living in a box next to Cresty with his Etruscan Literature degree.

THIS!

Are you a biologist? If not, you did not benefit from science either.

Only biologists benefit from science? LOL

What about chemists?

I was quoting BL. Yes you are right. Chemists and scientists obviously. My point is that it is career centric and should not be required in HS.

Math and science teach you how to think and are musts. Critical thinking is highly underrated. History, English, Language...people can memorize but science and math you cannot. You need to understand how to problem solve. Those classes are critical. Bad_Luck hates himself and most others I would try to ignore 99.9% of his posts. I actually feel sorry for people like him.