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Remember when democrats controlled the house, the presidency, and had a filibuster proof senate majority and didn't do ANYTHING to pass COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL after the Fort Hood Massacre (killed 13, injured 30 more) in 2009? The NRA and those mean Republicans could do nothing to stop them! VOTE DEMOCRAT FOR COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL!!
2/15/2018 11:09 PM

AUSTRALIA'S AMBASSADOR SAYS HIS COUNTRY'S GUN LAWS CAN'T SAVE AMERICA




https://psmag.com/news/australia-ambassador-gun-laws
2/15/2018 11:14 PM
Mental Illness includes Anxiety, Depression, Obsessive Compulsive Behavior....

Ban all these people from guns... and pray they didn't buy guns before they showed these symptoms!!!


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2/15/2018 11:23 PM
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Posted by moy23 on 2/15/2018 11:09:00 PM (view original):
Remember when democrats controlled the house, the presidency, and had a filibuster proof senate majority and didn't do ANYTHING to pass COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL after the Fort Hood Massacre (killed 13, injured 30 more) in 2009? The NRA and those mean Republicans could do nothing to stop them! VOTE DEMOCRAT FOR COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL!!
Slightly different argument, but I see your point. A g.i., on a base, is a bit different than a wacko at a theater, schhol, church, concert......yeah, some of the same issues, but level of access, and such is different
2/16/2018 7:41 AM
Posted by moy23 on 2/15/2018 11:14:00 PM (view original):

AUSTRALIA'S AMBASSADOR SAYS HIS COUNTRY'S GUN LAWS CAN'T SAVE AMERICA




https://psmag.com/news/australia-ambassador-gun-laws
In the 90's Australia had the same opposition that the US does now. People opposed it, big time. Most of them are now happy. No mass shooting deaths in 20 years.
2/16/2018 9:01 AM
Posted by bottomlee on 2/16/2018 7:41:00 AM (view original):
Posted by moy23 on 2/15/2018 11:09:00 PM (view original):
Remember when democrats controlled the house, the presidency, and had a filibuster proof senate majority and didn't do ANYTHING to pass COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL after the Fort Hood Massacre (killed 13, injured 30 more) in 2009? The NRA and those mean Republicans could do nothing to stop them! VOTE DEMOCRAT FOR COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL!!
Slightly different argument, but I see your point. A g.i., on a base, is a bit different than a wacko at a theater, schhol, church, concert......yeah, some of the same issues, but level of access, and such is different
I don't think Obama did enough. He and the other dems are more concerned with political suicide over their actual citizen's lives.
2/16/2018 9:13 AM
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2/16/2018 11:55 AM
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Are we not going to talk about the school shooting in florida?
How do you stop a shooter?
Well, for one, you don't let him have a gun.
Sounds easy, right? How will you enforce that?
By imposing gun control that doesn't allow felons to have guns and making sure that people who purchase guns know how to use them? Both of these things would have prevented the shooting in Florida.

Look at Australia. Zero school shootings in 20 years. They passed gun control 20 years ago. Coincidence?
Pretty sure we have a law saying felons can't have guns. Yet a couple days ago here in Chicago and officer was shot and killed by a four-time felon. How did that happen?
Because after a felon is released he can get a gun.
So then, back to the same question.... how are you going to enforce that law?
By actually imposing that regulation?

It's like legalizing cocaine because even if it is illegal people will still use it.

I mean, yeah, people could, in theory, get one, but it is much more unlikely.
We ARE enforcing it... You think cops are just letting felons run around with illegal guns?

It's ineffective because felons acquire guns illegally without asking the police first.

Which goes back to my first question.... How do you stop a shooter? People with intent to kill will find a way to get a gun. How do you stop them when they shoot?
You call the police?
And how do the police stop a shooter?
By arresting or shooting him? It's their job.
FINALLY! You figured it out. Took you way too long imo. The way to stop a shooter is to SHOOT them. When you take away guns from the good guys you can't actually STOP the bad guys. Waiting for police just gets more kids in this case (and others) killed. We should be putting armed guards/teachers in our schools. We use armed guards to protect our buildings downtown, our banks, our armored cars.... we use armed guards to protect our president and other politicians.... we use armed guards to protect famous people.... Yet, our most valuable asset, our children, we leave them in a gun free zone to get picked off like fish in a barrel. Makes ZERO sense. We should be protecting our most valuable assets.
I really have nothing going against that. I remember at the high school that I went to we had guards and police. Anyway, what does that have to do with common sense gun control?
I love that term... COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL. Makes people feel good to hear that. Notice how I said FEEL... that's because common sense gun control won't actually make people safer, just FEEL safer. Common sense gun control meant making places like Schools, Churches, Office Buildings, and Movie Theaters gun free... how's that working out? Sounds good though... THIS IS A GUN FREE ZONE!!! instead you get fish in a barrel. Whoops, didn't think that one through.

BTW - California (tough on guns) has had more mass shootings than any other state, with 23... and over 2/3rds of Mass Shootings in the US are committed with Hand Guns, not Assault Rifles.
California also has more people than any other state, so the odds are good there would be more mass shootings than any other state. Also, as you have mentioned before, nobody cares about California, right?
You also mentioned that schools should have armed guards. Not that I think that is a bad idea, but who is going to pay for it? I have many friends and relatives who are teachers and they are constantly using their own money to buy basic school supplies. If the schools can't afford to but basic supplies how can they afford to hire and properly train armed guards? Again, not saying its a bad idea. Matter of fact, it is a good idea. Just don't see how we are going to pay for it. Maybe use the wall money for this instead?
2/16/2018 12:44 PM
Train the teachers. I'm sure there's plenty of them that are gun owners who would feel much safer carrying a handgun to work, especially after all these mass shootings where everyone is defenseless
2/16/2018 12:58 PM
Cool. Armed teachers. Pass em all out AK -47's or AR -15's............. that way they'll be equally equipped. And give em' MAGA ballcaps, too.............. and sunglasses........
2/16/2018 2:14 PM (edited)
Posted by moy23 on 2/16/2018 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Train the teachers. I'm sure there's plenty of them that are gun owners who would feel much safer carrying a handgun to work, especially after all these mass shootings where everyone is defenseless
That I disagree with. Trained armed guards is one thing. Teachers? Too far.
2/16/2018 2:40 PM
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