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Posted by tangplay on 5/8/2018 11:32:00 AM (view original):
Does slavery and Jim Crow still affect black people? I want a yes/no answer.

Bad policing? If you get arrested when you are innocent, you go to jail, lose your job, and have that on your record the rest of your life. If you get killed, well, you are dead.

Netenyahu is.

#1) IT depends on your definition of affect. If you believe the Holocaust still affects Jews then "Yes" if you don't then "No". It affects them in my opinion because they don't have the benefits of generational wealth. But that is the only way. And that impact cannot be cured.

#2) This is true for all races. You are a moron. You didn't answer my question. Learn to read.

#3) In your opinion. You have zero proof. Other than what you see on CNN.

Keep up the good work.

#1) OK. So it does affect them. This has been my point the entire time. We agree. If a racist institutional practice affects them, then that is institutional racism. Case closed.

#2) INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE GET ARRESTED MORE. INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE GET KILLED AT A HIGHER RATE. THIS MEANS THAT IT AFFECTS BLACK PEOPLE DISPROPORTIONALLY.

#3) https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/middleeast/netanyahu-corruption-probes-israel-intl/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/02/police-question-benjamin-netanyahu-over-third-corruption-case
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-corruption-arrests-20180218-story.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43051249

I don't watch CNN btw.

#1) WAS!!! WAS!!! WAS!!! NOT IS!!! That is like asking if slavery affects them. UGH!!! Case NOT Closed. You dummy. LOL.

#2) No it doesn't. The NBA is 75% black. So does that mean that owners are prejudiced against white players?!?!??! NO!!

#3) CNN is FAKE NEWS.

#1) You just said it still affects them. If it still affects them, then that is institutional racism. I don't see what part of this you don't understand.

#2) What? That example doesn't make sense. Please explain why more innocent black people get arrested and convicted.

#3) So is the Guardian? So is the LA Times? So is BBC? So is the NY Times? What? HEAD IN THE SAND.

#1) You IDIOT!!! What happened before was RACISM and affects future generations. LMAO. Do you not understand English? I am seriously puzzled why you cannot understand this.

#2) They do? Show stats. As a % of arrests I think just as many "innocents" get arrested black or white. More black people are arrested because statistically they commit more crimes because they come from single parent households. I have already told you this 100000x. More arrests = more mistakes.

#3) Read the WSJ. There is a difference between news and editorials.

#1) Correct. That is institutional racism.

#2) https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/7/14834454/exoneration-innocence-prison-racism
http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf
Yeah but that doesn't make sense. If everyone was treated equally and on an individual level, the fact that black people commit more crimes should not come up in your mind when you come to arrest another black person. You are proving my point. That is exactly what is happening and it is not OK.

#3) None of those were editorials. They were all reporting a news story. I bet you didn't even read them.

#1) HOW? Those institutions such as MLB no longer practice this racism??!?!?!

#2) We agreed that policing needs to be improved but dual parenting would cause a lot less need to arrest people.

#3) Everything in CNN has an air of editorials. I refuse to give that network any viewership or readership. Sorry. I am not even sure if they declared DJT the President yet...

#1) Yeah, but again, if it still affects us, it still is institutional racism. I don't know if you understand what institutional racism means.

#2) Sure... I guess?

#3) Ok, ignore the CNN one.... What about the others? Is BBC fake news?

We agree on more than you think. We just need to iron out all our definitions.

#1) Why is it still racism if it affects us? So should we still be punishing Germany for the Holocaust? Explain in detail. NOW.

#2) You guess? No I am right. Admit it.

#3) I have told you already more arrests = more false arrest. Just as in hoops if I take more free throws I will miss more free throws than someone who takes fewer free throws if our % is the same.

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OMG

This is pointless. You are too dumb to debate this. You will just go on with your parroting and race divisive rhetoric. Stay away from my kids.

Right. I hate how you go back on what you say and parrot everything over and over. I trapped you in a logical corner and you need a way out.

LMAO? No. the fact that you think it is logical is why it can no longer be debated.

#1) Slavery was bad and evil
#2) The positive was that it brought people to the US from a 3rd world country and future generations get to live in the US.
#3) Unfortunately we just started treating people fairly recently. That includes racial and gender minorities.
#4) I am in the same boat as most African Americans. I didn't come from generational wealth. I had to work 2 jobs for 15 years or so to afford a house and such.

There is no MORE institutional racism. There is no logical corner. Because there is no logic with you.

You are deranged. And dumb.

YOU ALREADY SAID THAT GENERATIONAL WEALTH STILL NEGATIVELY AFFECTS THEM.

Yes because of sins of the past not the present. We cannot change the past only the present and we have. Holocaust still negatively impacts me. Do you care? Does anyone?

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Posted by tangplay on 5/8/2018 11:32:00 AM (view original):
Does slavery and Jim Crow still affect black people? I want a yes/no answer.

Bad policing? If you get arrested when you are innocent, you go to jail, lose your job, and have that on your record the rest of your life. If you get killed, well, you are dead.

Netenyahu is.

#1) IT depends on your definition of affect. If you believe the Holocaust still affects Jews then "Yes" if you don't then "No". It affects them in my opinion because they don't have the benefits of generational wealth. But that is the only way. And that impact cannot be cured.

#2) This is true for all races. You are a moron. You didn't answer my question. Learn to read.

#3) In your opinion. You have zero proof. Other than what you see on CNN.

Keep up the good work.

#1) OK. So it does affect them. This has been my point the entire time. We agree. If a racist institutional practice affects them, then that is institutional racism. Case closed.

#2) INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE GET ARRESTED MORE. INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE GET KILLED AT A HIGHER RATE. THIS MEANS THAT IT AFFECTS BLACK PEOPLE DISPROPORTIONALLY.

#3) https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/13/middleeast/netanyahu-corruption-probes-israel-intl/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/02/police-question-benjamin-netanyahu-over-third-corruption-case
http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-corruption-arrests-20180218-story.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43051249

I don't watch CNN btw.

#1) WAS!!! WAS!!! WAS!!! NOT IS!!! That is like asking if slavery affects them. UGH!!! Case NOT Closed. You dummy. LOL.

#2) No it doesn't. The NBA is 75% black. So does that mean that owners are prejudiced against white players?!?!??! NO!!

#3) CNN is FAKE NEWS.

#1) You just said it still affects them. If it still affects them, then that is institutional racism. I don't see what part of this you don't understand.

#2) What? That example doesn't make sense. Please explain why more innocent black people get arrested and convicted.

#3) So is the Guardian? So is the LA Times? So is BBC? So is the NY Times? What? HEAD IN THE SAND.

#1) You IDIOT!!! What happened before was RACISM and affects future generations. LMAO. Do you not understand English? I am seriously puzzled why you cannot understand this.

#2) They do? Show stats. As a % of arrests I think just as many "innocents" get arrested black or white. More black people are arrested because statistically they commit more crimes because they come from single parent households. I have already told you this 100000x. More arrests = more mistakes.

#3) Read the WSJ. There is a difference between news and editorials.

#1) Correct. That is institutional racism.

#2) https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/7/14834454/exoneration-innocence-prison-racism
http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Documents/Race_and_Wrongful_Convictions.pdf
Yeah but that doesn't make sense. If everyone was treated equally and on an individual level, the fact that black people commit more crimes should not come up in your mind when you come to arrest another black person. You are proving my point. That is exactly what is happening and it is not OK.

#3) None of those were editorials. They were all reporting a news story. I bet you didn't even read them.

#1) HOW? Those institutions such as MLB no longer practice this racism??!?!?!

#2) We agreed that policing needs to be improved but dual parenting would cause a lot less need to arrest people.

#3) Everything in CNN has an air of editorials. I refuse to give that network any viewership or readership. Sorry. I am not even sure if they declared DJT the President yet...

#1) Yeah, but again, if it still affects us, it still is institutional racism. I don't know if you understand what institutional racism means.

#2) Sure... I guess?

#3) Ok, ignore the CNN one.... What about the others? Is BBC fake news?

We agree on more than you think. We just need to iron out all our definitions.

#1) Why is it still racism if it affects us? So should we still be punishing Germany for the Holocaust? Explain in detail. NOW.

#2) You guess? No I am right. Admit it.

#3) I have told you already more arrests = more false arrest. Just as in hoops if I take more free throws I will miss more free throws than someone who takes fewer free throws if our % is the same.

#1) It doesn't matter if it still is in practice. In the example of the holocaust, that's institutional racism. It doesn't stop becoming institutional racism just because we are not doing it anymore. Thus, institutional racism exists.

#2) You are correct.

#3) No, no, no. You are missing the point. The free throw example is between crimes and arrests. More crime equals more arrests. But there should never be a link between more arrests and more false arrests. Even if every crime was committed by black people, it would still be wrong to have an extremely disproportionate rate of false arrests. That isn't treating every case individually.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/8/2018 2:09:00 PM (view original):
Yes because of sins of the past not the present. We cannot change the past only the present and we have. Holocaust still negatively impacts me. Do you care? Does anyone?

I care. That's institutional racism. If the holocaust still affects Jews and they still suffer instititional disadvantages because of it, we should change that.

#1) We have different operational definitions of Institutional Racism. I live in the present.

#2) I know I am

#3) I am going to say that the justice system needs an overhaul because it favors the rich. Look at OJ as an example. I will give you that one if you agree that even African American cops are "racist".

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/8/2018 2:09:00 PM (view original):
Yes because of sins of the past not the present. We cannot change the past only the present and we have. Holocaust still negatively impacts me. Do you care? Does anyone?

I care. That's institutional racism. If the holocaust still affects Jews and they still suffer instititional disadvantages because of it, we should change that.

We did. We gave them Israel and now people are whining about it.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/8/2018 2:15:00 PM (view original):
#1) We have different operational definitions of Institutional Racism. I live in the present.

#2) I know I am

#3) I am going to say that the justice system needs an overhaul because it favors the rich. Look at OJ as an example. I will give you that one if you agree that even African American cops are "racist".

#1) So do I. If it still affects us, it still is in the present.

#3) True. And yeah, any race can have stereotypes. So sure.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/8/2018 2:09:00 PM (view original):
Yes because of sins of the past not the present. We cannot change the past only the present and we have. Holocaust still negatively impacts me. Do you care? Does anyone?

I care. That's institutional racism. If the holocaust still affects Jews and they still suffer instititional disadvantages because of it, we should change that.

We did. We gave them Israel and now people are whining about it.

Well, then if the holocaust no longer negatively affects Jews because of a change in policy, that would go to prove my point, wouldn't it.

Same way as Affirmative Action right? Come on now.

What does that have to do with AA?

IT was done to make up for the Jim Crow laws. Would you rather just cut checks to people? What is your cure? We gave Native Americans the option to not pay taxes.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/8/2018 2:09:00 PM (view original):
Yes because of sins of the past not the present. We cannot change the past only the present and we have. Holocaust still negatively impacts me. Do you care? Does anyone?

I care. That's institutional racism. If the holocaust still affects Jews and they still suffer instititional disadvantages because of it, we should change that.

We did. We gave them Israel and now people are whining about it.

WE gave them Israel? Who is this we you refer to? I wasn't even alive at the time.

We the victors of WWII.

sorry, I knew what you meant. Just being a little bit of an ******* there.