If they come from the same level of generational wealth, have the same # of parents, same education. Yes.

You again ignored me. Asians make more than whites. Is there Asian privilege?

So there are lots of factors that go into success, right?

Is it possible that just being black, when everything else is controlled for, is a disadvantage?

Are you not going to answer me again? You are such a child.

So you're saying there is black disadvantage not white privilege?

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:51:00 PM (view original):
Are you not going to answer me again? You are such a child.

So you're saying there is black disadvantage not white privilege?

It's a non-sequitur. I don't have an answer as to why Asians are so successful. I definitely wouldn't argue that whites are disadvantaged, even compared directly to Asians, based on the overall success of whites.

Are you going to address this:

The Sarasota Herald Tribune investigated sentencing in Florida and found:

African-American defendants get more time behind bars — sometimes twice the prison terms of whites with identical criminal histories — when they commit the same crimes under identical circumstances. It also shows how bias on the part of individual judges and prosecutors drives sentencing inequity.

This is from joint research by the University of South Carolina and Michigan State:

Although there were negligible differences among the racial groups in how frequently boys committed crimes, white boys were less likely to spend time in a facility than black and Hispanic boys

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Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 4:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Wait. I just told you that I got the interview but not the job. Is that not equalizing opportunity and not outcomes?

No.

Then what do you consider that?

Equalizing outcomes. Getting the interview is an outcome.

It is? Isn't getting the job an outcome? Anyone can get an interview at Home Depot. Just apply.

No, getting an interview is an outcome. Not everyone gets an interview.

Posted by bad_luck on 5/9/2018 5:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

You've been preaching the middle class success sequence forever?

Jesus, hell yeah he has, and I disproved him wrong (HINT: Just point out the million people who do that and are still poor and the 30 million who do that and don't even get to the middle class.)

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 4:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 4:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Wait. I just told you that I got the interview but not the job. Is that not equalizing opportunity and not outcomes?

No.

Then what do you consider that?

Equalizing outcomes. Getting the interview is an outcome.

It is? Isn't getting the job an outcome? Anyone can get an interview at Home Depot. Just apply.

No, getting an interview is an outcome. Not everyone gets an interview.

What is an opportunity then?

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/9/2018 5:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

You've been preaching the middle class success sequence forever?

Jesus, hell yeah he has, and I disproved him wrong (HINT: Just point out the million people who do that and are still poor and the 30 million who do that and don't even get to the middle class.)

No you didn't 1 million is not that many in a country of 330 mil. No country is perfect as I proved to you. You're dumb. I am glad you declared yourself the winner. Captain Leftist.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 8:39:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 4:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 4:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Wait. I just told you that I got the interview but not the job. Is that not equalizing opportunity and not outcomes?

No.

Then what do you consider that?

Equalizing outcomes. Getting the interview is an outcome.

It is? Isn't getting the job an outcome? Anyone can get an interview at Home Depot. Just apply.

No, getting an interview is an outcome. Not everyone gets an interview.

What is an opportunity then?

Getting considered for the interview based on individual qualities rather than race. Employer chooses the best candidate.

Posted by The Taint on 5/9/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:50:00 PM (view original):
Ahhhh....so I agreed that policing needs to be fixed. I've been pulled over too and cops are not super friendly. Unfortunately I cannot speak for African Americans because I am not one. But I think policing needs to be revamped all around. I think they need to pull the elderly over more because they are terrible drivers (not all but many).

While your example is valid I don't think this happens as frequently as the media has us believe. But I agree that policing needs to be revamped. Some of the dumbest kids in my HS are now cops. That is nuts.

Don't sleep in your own dorm common room if you're black!

A white person voices suspicions about an innocuous person of color. Police are summoned. And the encounter is posted on social media, sparking outrage about racial profiling.

In what is becoming an all-too familiar episode, a black Yale University graduate student was interrogated by campus police officers early Tuesday morning after a white student found her sleeping in a common room of their dorm and called police.
The black student, Lolade Siyonbola, posted two videos of the encounter to Facebook, where they have been widely viewed and drawn thousands of comments.
"I deserve to be here. I pay tuition like everybody else," an annoyed Siyonbola told responding officers in one video after they asked for her ID. "I'm not going to justify my existence here."

The incident is one of several in recent weeks in which police have been called on people of color for seemingly harmless acts. In one of the most recent, three black women were detained while leaving their California Airbnb after a neighbor called police, thinking they were burglars. Last month two black men were arrested at a Starbucks in Philadelphia after a manager called 911 on them because they didn't order anything.

Hmmm....All in liberal places. The left is so racist it's unbelievable.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 8:51:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/9/2018 5:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

You've been preaching the middle class success sequence forever?

Jesus, hell yeah he has, and I disproved him wrong (HINT: Just point out the million people who do that and are still poor and the 30 million who do that and don't even get to the middle class.)

No you didn't 1 million is not that many in a country of 330 mil. No country is perfect as I proved to you. You're dumb. I am glad you declared yourself the winner. Captain Leftist.

What about the 30 million who won't even get up to the middle class?

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/10/2018 9:07:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 5/9/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:50:00 PM (view original):
Ahhhh....so I agreed that policing needs to be fixed. I've been pulled over too and cops are not super friendly. Unfortunately I cannot speak for African Americans because I am not one. But I think policing needs to be revamped all around. I think they need to pull the elderly over more because they are terrible drivers (not all but many).

While your example is valid I don't think this happens as frequently as the media has us believe. But I agree that policing needs to be revamped. Some of the dumbest kids in my HS are now cops. That is nuts.

Don't sleep in your own dorm common room if you're black!

A white person voices suspicions about an innocuous person of color. Police are summoned. And the encounter is posted on social media, sparking outrage about racial profiling.

In what is becoming an all-too familiar episode, a black Yale University graduate student was interrogated by campus police officers early Tuesday morning after a white student found her sleeping in a common room of their dorm and called police.
The black student, Lolade Siyonbola, posted two videos of the encounter to Facebook, where they have been widely viewed and drawn thousands of comments.
"I deserve to be here. I pay tuition like everybody else," an annoyed Siyonbola told responding officers in one video after they asked for her ID. "I'm not going to justify my existence here."

The incident is one of several in recent weeks in which police have been called on people of color for seemingly harmless acts. In one of the most recent, three black women were detained while leaving their California Airbnb after a neighbor called police, thinking they were burglars. Last month two black men were arrested at a Starbucks in Philadelphia after a manager called 911 on them because they didn't order anything.

Hmmm....All in liberal places. The left is so racist it's unbelievable.

THEY HAPPEN IN BIG CITIES. BIG CITIES ARE PREDOMINANTLY LIBERAL.

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 9:07:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 8:51:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 5/9/2018 5:38:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:33:00 PM (view original):
Yes, I've been preaching it 4ever. So maybe we can take a step closer by pushing the two parent household.

Do whites have a competitive advantage over Asians? Asians are the highest earners in the US.

You've been preaching the middle class success sequence forever?

Jesus, hell yeah he has, and I disproved him wrong (HINT: Just point out the million people who do that and are still poor and the 30 million who do that and don't even get to the middle class.)

No you didn't 1 million is not that many in a country of 330 mil. No country is perfect as I proved to you. You're dumb. I am glad you declared yourself the winner. Captain Leftist.

What about the 30 million who won't even get up to the middle class?

Middle class is a fungible term. Not everyone can be in the middle class otherwise it would not be "middle" class. I kid. But its better than poverty.

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 9:07:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 8:39:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 4:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 4:18:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Wait. I just told you that I got the interview but not the job. Is that not equalizing opportunity and not outcomes?

No.

Then what do you consider that?

Equalizing outcomes. Getting the interview is an outcome.

It is? Isn't getting the job an outcome? Anyone can get an interview at Home Depot. Just apply.

No, getting an interview is an outcome. Not everyone gets an interview.

What is an opportunity then?

Getting considered for the interview based on individual qualities rather than race. Employer chooses the best candidate.

They see a CV?

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 9:08:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/10/2018 9:07:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 5/9/2018 4:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:50:00 PM (view original):
Ahhhh....so I agreed that policing needs to be fixed. I've been pulled over too and cops are not super friendly. Unfortunately I cannot speak for African Americans because I am not one. But I think policing needs to be revamped all around. I think they need to pull the elderly over more because they are terrible drivers (not all but many).

While your example is valid I don't think this happens as frequently as the media has us believe. But I agree that policing needs to be revamped. Some of the dumbest kids in my HS are now cops. That is nuts.

Don't sleep in your own dorm common room if you're black!

A white person voices suspicions about an innocuous person of color. Police are summoned. And the encounter is posted on social media, sparking outrage about racial profiling.

In what is becoming an all-too familiar episode, a black Yale University graduate student was interrogated by campus police officers early Tuesday morning after a white student found her sleeping in a common room of their dorm and called police.
The black student, Lolade Siyonbola, posted two videos of the encounter to Facebook, where they have been widely viewed and drawn thousands of comments.
"I deserve to be here. I pay tuition like everybody else," an annoyed Siyonbola told responding officers in one video after they asked for her ID. "I'm not going to justify my existence here."

The incident is one of several in recent weeks in which police have been called on people of color for seemingly harmless acts. In one of the most recent, three black women were detained while leaving their California Airbnb after a neighbor called police, thinking they were burglars. Last month two black men were arrested at a Starbucks in Philadelphia after a manager called 911 on them because they didn't order anything.

Hmmm....All in liberal places. The left is so racist it's unbelievable.

THEY HAPPEN IN BIG CITIES. BIG CITIES ARE PREDOMINANTLY LIBERAL.

Exactly.