Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:35:00 PM (view original):
You may be right. I knew it was Russia or KSA. As I stated from the beginning I just don't know enough about this but I really mistrust the media and I definitely mistrust the UN on this issue. Europe is overrun with radical Islam.

What does Europe being 'overrun' with radical Islam have anything to do with this conversation?

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Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

I am not an expert on ME feuds but I do know that the Shiite and Sunnis dislike one another. You don't understand it either. You only understand what you read from the biased media. In my opinion DJT had intelligence reports and he as the commander in chief made the decision to exit. He has a lot more information than you or I. From the beginning I told you that I don't know enough to make an informed opinion. You don't either, since you are a hack small town "journalist". I trust in our governing body that we are doing the right thing here. Of course the US has made mistakes such as the Iraq war, Lybia, etc. So this may be a mistake too.

In the end why the heck do you care what I think? Obviously I am biased against Iran and their radical Muslim leadership. So I will lean toward Israel. I am also biased against Europe, which is overrun by Islamists. I am open about this bias.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:35:00 PM (view original):
You may be right. I knew it was Russia or KSA. As I stated from the beginning I just don't know enough about this but I really mistrust the media and I definitely mistrust the UN on this issue. Europe is overrun with radical Islam.

What does Europe being 'overrun' with radical Islam have anything to do with this conversation?

That those countries make bad decisions and I don't trust their viewpoint on Iran. They don't see Islam as a threat. I do.

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Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

I am not an expert on ME feuds but I do know that the Shiite and Sunnis dislike one another. You don't understand it either. You only understand what you read from the biased media. In my opinion DJT had intelligence reports and he as the commander in chief made the decision to exit. He has a lot more information than you or I. From the beginning I told you that I don't know enough to make an informed opinion. You don't either, since you are a hack small town "journalist". I trust in our governing body that we are doing the right thing here. Of course the US has made mistakes such as the Iraq war, Lybia, etc. So this may be a mistake too.

In the end why the heck do you care what I think? Obviously I am biased against Iran and their radical Muslim leadership. So I will lean toward Israel. I am also biased against Europe, which is overrun by Islamists. I am open about this bias.

Just curious for your decision. You do realize that Ben is a hack just like the rest of us? Going to Harvard doesn't make you a genious. Shapiro is decieving you. The deal is good for the USA. You are a dumbass if you blindly believe Trump but not Obama.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 8:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 7:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 5:35:00 PM (view original):
You may be right. I knew it was Russia or KSA. As I stated from the beginning I just don't know enough about this but I really mistrust the media and I definitely mistrust the UN on this issue. Europe is overrun with radical Islam.

What does Europe being 'overrun' with radical Islam have anything to do with this conversation?

That those countries make bad decisions and I don't trust their viewpoint on Iran. They don't see Islam as a threat. I do.

They are still our alles though. Islamists are not making the decisions. Radical Islam is not a threat.

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Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

Yeah, they were never allied with Israel.

Anyway, answer this. We are trying to negotiate a similar deal with NK right now. Why should they trust us?

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Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

I am not an expert on ME feuds but I do know that the Shiite and Sunnis dislike one another. You don't understand it either. You only understand what you read from the biased media. In my opinion DJT had intelligence reports and he as the commander in chief made the decision to exit. He has a lot more information than you or I. From the beginning I told you that I don't know enough to make an informed opinion. You don't either, since you are a hack small town "journalist". I trust in our governing body that we are doing the right thing here. Of course the US has made mistakes such as the Iraq war, Lybia, etc. So this may be a mistake too.

In the end why the heck do you care what I think? Obviously I am biased against Iran and their radical Muslim leadership. So I will lean toward Israel. I am also biased against Europe, which is overrun by Islamists. I am open about this bias.

Just curious for your decision. You do realize that Ben is a hack just like the rest of us? Going to Harvard doesn't make you a genious. Shapiro is decieving you. The deal is good for the USA. You are a dumbass if you blindly believe Trump but not Obama.

No. Ben is an educated pundit. He is biased. You're a hack. Obama was the most anti Israel POTUS in US history. You know I side with Israel. I too am openly biased. Not sure what you don't understand about that? Trump favors Israel too. He is biased. I like his bias.

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Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

Yeah, they were never allied with Israel.

Anyway, answer this. We are trying to negotiate a similar deal with NK right now. Why should they trust us?

Because Trump will say he never negotiated the Iran deal. It was Obama who did nothing with NK. He will say work with me, I am a deal maker. Whether or not it works or not IDK. Again I am not an expert and neither are you. I told you 20x now that I just don't know enough to truly make an informed decision. But I will always side with Israel and the US and not Iran and Europe. Rightly or wrongly.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

Yeah, they were never allied with Israel.

Anyway, answer this. We are trying to negotiate a similar deal with NK right now. Why should they trust us?

US was not allied with the USSR until they were in WWII. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

I am not an expert on ME feuds but I do know that the Shiite and Sunnis dislike one another. You don't understand it either. You only understand what you read from the biased media. In my opinion DJT had intelligence reports and he as the commander in chief made the decision to exit. He has a lot more information than you or I. From the beginning I told you that I don't know enough to make an informed opinion. You don't either, since you are a hack small town "journalist". I trust in our governing body that we are doing the right thing here. Of course the US has made mistakes such as the Iraq war, Lybia, etc. So this may be a mistake too.

In the end why the heck do you care what I think? Obviously I am biased against Iran and their radical Muslim leadership. So I will lean toward Israel. I am also biased against Europe, which is overrun by Islamists. I am open about this bias.

Just curious for your decision. You do realize that Ben is a hack just like the rest of us? Going to Harvard doesn't make you a genious. Shapiro is decieving you. The deal is good for the USA. You are a dumbass if you blindly believe Trump but not Obama.

No. Ben is an educated pundit. He is biased. You're a hack. Obama was the most anti Israel POTUS in US history. You know I side with Israel. I too am openly biased. Not sure what you don't understand about that? Trump favors Israel too. He is biased. I like his bias.

Trump favors Israel over everyone else? The ONLY reason to dislike the Iran deal is because it is not favorable to Israel. Everyone else, besides Iran, benefits.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/9/2018 3:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

Yeah, they were never allied with Israel.

Anyway, answer this. We are trying to negotiate a similar deal with NK right now. Why should they trust us?

Because Trump will say he never negotiated the Iran deal. It was Obama who did nothing with NK. He will say work with me, I am a deal maker. Whether or not it works or not IDK. Again I am not an expert and neither are you. I told you 20x now that I just don't know enough to truly make an informed decision. But I will always side with Israel and the US and not Iran and Europe. Rightly or wrongly.

Who cares who it was negotiated by? The deal is the exact same one Trump is gonna propose to NK. KJU sees them all the same. It is VITAL that he trusts us. He won't now.

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Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

Yeah, they were never allied with Israel.

Anyway, answer this. We are trying to negotiate a similar deal with NK right now. Why should they trust us?

Because Trump will say he never negotiated the Iran deal. It was Obama who did nothing with NK. He will say work with me, I am a deal maker. Whether or not it works or not IDK. Again I am not an expert and neither are you. I told you 20x now that I just don't know enough to truly make an informed decision. But I will always side with Israel and the US and not Iran and Europe. Rightly or wrongly.

Also, here is who benefits:
USA
Europe
China

Here is who is hurt:
Israel
Iran

Again, if you support the USA, and don't like Iran, this is the deal for you.

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Posted by tangplay on 5/9/2018 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

Yeah, they were never allied with Israel.

Anyway, answer this. We are trying to negotiate a similar deal with NK right now. Why should they trust us?

US was not allied with the USSR until they were in WWII. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The USA was never allied to the Soviets.

Considering this was billed as a "Death Battle", this thread has been a disappointment.