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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 11:21:00 AM (view original):
I can't do this tangplay. If you choose to be an ignorant person we have nothing more to discuss.

We aleady went over this. Everyone has opportunity. Unless you think that opportunity doesn't exist?

Yes but not everyone will succeed and if you think a 2% failure rate is too high we have nothing more to discuss.

2% isn't too high. over 60% is.

2%...

#1) Graduate HS
#2) Get a job
#3) Don't have kids before marriage

Maybe we should try it before vilifying it?

Mb. 25% not 60%. 25% don't join the middle class. That's too high.

Define middle class. 75% do join. Not terrible.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:02:00 PM (view original):
I think it is pointless to fight against stats. I will gladly look at each case and fight against racism but to just fight stats is silly. As I have said the NBA is 75% black. It is not racist but looking at just stats one would think so. I wish the Left would just look at each case individually and not always label.

The NBA being 75% black is an outcome. Black people getting convicted more is opportunity.

What? Both are outcomes.

Getting to the NBA: Outcome.
Getting to the middle class (prevented by being arrested): Outcome.
Not getting arrested: Opportunity.

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 12:18:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 11:35:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 11:23:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 11:21:00 AM (view original):
I can't do this tangplay. If you choose to be an ignorant person we have nothing more to discuss.

We aleady went over this. Everyone has opportunity. Unless you think that opportunity doesn't exist?

Yes but not everyone will succeed and if you think a 2% failure rate is too high we have nothing more to discuss.

2% isn't too high. over 60% is.

2%...

#1) Graduate HS
#2) Get a job
#3) Don't have kids before marriage

Maybe we should try it before vilifying it?

Mb. 25% not 60%. 25% don't join the middle class. That's too high.

Define middle class. 75% do join. Not terrible.

Not good either.

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 12:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:02:00 PM (view original):
I think it is pointless to fight against stats. I will gladly look at each case and fight against racism but to just fight stats is silly. As I have said the NBA is 75% black. It is not racist but looking at just stats one would think so. I wish the Left would just look at each case individually and not always label.

The NBA being 75% black is an outcome. Black people getting convicted more is opportunity.

What? Both are outcomes.

Getting to the NBA: Outcome.
Getting to the middle class (prevented by being arrested): Outcome.
Not getting arrested: Opportunity.

I don't follow whatsoever. So if you are a law abiding citizen that equals opportunity?

Question for those who think there is no systematic racism anymore. FACT---- The Black unemployment rate (Age 20+) has historically (for decades) been measured by our own government at (essentially) double the white unemployment rate (Age 20+). Currently for whites it's just under 4.0 and for Blacks it's above 7.5. Google it--------- it has almost always been twice the unemployment amongst blacks vs. whites.

Here's the question............ WHY???

Why is black unemployment double that of whites? IF it isn't systematic disadvantage in employment., then what is it my brothers?

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 12:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 12:16:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:02:00 PM (view original):
I think it is pointless to fight against stats. I will gladly look at each case and fight against racism but to just fight stats is silly. As I have said the NBA is 75% black. It is not racist but looking at just stats one would think so. I wish the Left would just look at each case individually and not always label.

The NBA being 75% black is an outcome. Black people getting convicted more is opportunity.

What? Both are outcomes.

Getting to the NBA: Outcome.
Getting to the middle class (prevented by being arrested): Outcome.
Not getting arrested: Opportunity.

I don't follow whatsoever. So if you are a law abiding citizen that equals opportunity?

No, innocent, law abiding black people are arrested at a far higher rate than any other race.

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 12:42:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 12:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/10/2018 12:16:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/10/2018 12:02:00 PM (view original):
I think it is pointless to fight against stats. I will gladly look at each case and fight against racism but to just fight stats is silly. As I have said the NBA is 75% black. It is not racist but looking at just stats one would think so. I wish the Left would just look at each case individually and not always label.

The NBA being 75% black is an outcome. Black people getting convicted more is opportunity.

What? Both are outcomes.

Getting to the NBA: Outcome.
Getting to the middle class (prevented by being arrested): Outcome.
Not getting arrested: Opportunity.

I don't follow whatsoever. So if you are a law abiding citizen that equals opportunity?

No, innocent, law abiding black people are arrested at a far higher rate than any other race.

Again I am not fighting statistics. Show me real examples.

Couldn't find many news articles on it, that are not listing statistics, but I have tons of examples of black people getting mistreated and pulled over due to prejudice.

Excellent give me the circumstances and why they were mistreated, etc. I agreed w/you that we need a justice system overhaul. You do recall that, correct?

Lots of people get suspected of crimes because of their skin color and get pulled over. One professor was driving down the road and a cop pulled him over and put a gun to his head because then policeman thought he had committed a crime.

Yeah, I do recall that.

So then why are you beating a dead horse?

Because you refuse to acknowledge that discrimination is still a thing.

I never said that. I said there are racists out there but that does not mean that being black gives you a disadvantage. There are anti semites out there too. Being a Jew does not give me a disadvantage.

OK so it isn't a dead horse.

It is. I agreed that there is bad policing out there. Is that your only argument?