What? You mean the goal of stopping a vile force trying to take over the World with its autocratic regime? You are insane. Please STFU now.

Yeah, that was their goal. That doesn't make them allies.

Let's say North Korea bombed the USA and China and declared war on both of us. China and USA defeat North Korea but stay enemies and almost go to war over how to divide the winnings.

Were China and the USA allies?

In a battle against NK. Absolutely!!!

No, they were never allies. They had a common enemy and fought on the same side. But they were never friendly towards each other. They were enemies.

A state formally cooperating with another for a military or other purpose, typically by treaty.

STFU Tangplay, you are embarrassing yourself.

99.9% of the world agrees that US and USSR were allies in WWII.

I'm not generally in agreement with ANYBODY on here. I just agree with folks when they're right and try to point out when they're wrong.

But, Tangy, the picture of Churchhill, FDR, and Stalin kinda says it all. We WERE allied! Period. Did we still have fears/reservations/differences......... sure, BUT they were put aside in the general necessity of winning world peace. There was even significant cooperation after the war. On this one, you need to stop digging.

Now, to be fair........ Boris, please explain to me why Black unemployment is twice white's if it isn't social disadvantage.

I disagree, but whatever. The USA and USSR did not co-operate in my opinion and pictures do not mean anything. But we can agree to disagree.

Without co-operation the Allies would NEVER have prevailed. We most certainly DID co-operate with Stalin's Country and he with us. To claim otherwise is ludicrous. Methinks you just enjoy arguing way too much.

How would you define co-operation?

I would define tangplay as argumentative and as a terrible listener.

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Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

Yeah, they were never allied with Israel.

Anyway, answer this. We are trying to negotiate a similar deal with NK right now. Why should they trust us?

US was not allied with the USSR until they were in WWII. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The USA was never allied to the Soviets.

um, WWII, dude.

They were never allied during WW2 IMO

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Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

Yeah, they were never allied with Israel.

Anyway, answer this. We are trying to negotiate a similar deal with NK right now. Why should they trust us?

Because Trump will say he never negotiated the Iran deal. It was Obama who did nothing with NK. He will say work with me, I am a deal maker. Whether or not it works or not IDK. Again I am not an expert and neither are you. I told you 20x now that I just don't know enough to truly make an informed decision. But I will always side with Israel and the US and not Iran and Europe. Rightly or wrongly.

Who cares who it was negotiated by? The deal is the exact same one Trump is gonna propose to NK. KJU sees them all the same. It is VITAL that he trusts us. He won't now.

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Right. Obama certainly didn't make it better. But he didn't ruin the middle east or anything as Shapiro hints here.

Where did he say he ruined it?

Read between the lines a little bit. He hints that Saudi Arabia and Iran were great friends and Israel was uber powerful until uppity Obama came into power.

KSA and Iran were never friends. Sunni vs. Shiite.

I am not seeing what you are. What BHO did do was alienate our only ally that is a democracy in the ME. Israel.

So did you read the part where Ben said that the Saudis were now 'forced' to start hating Iran as a result of Obama? Seems like you disagree with Ben here.

I would prioritize USA and Europe over ME. Especially when one of our enemies is weakened. Same thing we are doing in NK. The Iran deal is basically the exact same deal. What part of that don't you understand?

Forced to ally with Israel. Always hated Iran. You're dumb. Learn to read.

Yeah, they were never allied with Israel.

Anyway, answer this. We are trying to negotiate a similar deal with NK right now. Why should they trust us?

Because Trump will say he never negotiated the Iran deal. It was Obama who did nothing with NK. He will say work with me, I am a deal maker. Whether or not it works or not IDK. Again I am not an expert and neither are you. I told you 20x now that I just don't know enough to truly make an informed decision. But I will always side with Israel and the US and not Iran and Europe. Rightly or wrongly.

Also, here is who benefits:
USA
Europe
China

Here is who is hurt:
Israel
Iran

Again, if you support the USA, and don't like Iran, this is the deal for you.

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Tang. You are a moron. If you cannot even agree that the US and USSR were allies during WWII we cannot discuss foreign policy.