Posted by cccp1014 on 5/21/2018 9:40:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 5/21/2018 12:18:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/20/2018 11:28:00 PM (view original):
Nah, I love a good beer. Would much rather debate sports in that setting though.

Patrick Mahomes for MVP 2018-19

Are you insane? No MVPs ever for a 6-10 team, which is what KC will be.

Yeah right. KC will go 10-6, win the division for the third straight year.

They have a ton of offensive weapons. Mahomes, Hill, Hunt, Watkins, Kelce.

Mahomes = unproven at best.
Hill = Fast but inconsistent
Hunt = Great
Watkins = see Hill
Kelce = Very good and very injury prone.

Week 1: @ SD = LOSS
Week 2: @ Pitt = LOSS
Week 3: SF = Win
Week 4: @ Denver = LOSS
Week 5: JAX = LOSS
Week 6: @ NE = LOSS
Week 7: Cinci = Win
Week 8: Denver = Win
Week 9: @ Clev = Win
Week 10: AZ = Win
Week 11: @ Rams = LOSS
Week 12: Bye
Week 13: @ Raiders = LOSS
Week 14: BAL = Win
Week 15: SD = Win
Week 16: @ Seattle = LOSS
Week 17: Raiders = Win

I have you at 8-8 (best case). Feel free to disagree.

Tang, if you see race as many factors, I have some questions. What are the other factors? Why, in all of your posts, do you only focus on fixing the "racial divide" and not the other factors?

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/21/2018 11:31:00 AM (view original):
Mahomes = unproven at best.
Hill = Fast but inconsistent
Hunt = Great
Watkins = see Hill
Kelce = Very good and very injury prone.

Week 1: @ SD = LOSS
Week 2: @ Pitt = LOSS
Week 3: SF = Win
Week 4: @ Denver = LOSS
Week 5: JAX = LOSS
Week 6: @ NE = LOSS
Week 7: Cinci = Win
Week 8: Denver = Win
Week 9: @ Clev = Win
Week 10: AZ = Win
Week 11: @ Rams = LOSS
Week 12: Bye
Week 13: @ Raiders = LOSS
Week 14: BAL = Win
Week 15: SD = Win
Week 16: @ Seattle = LOSS
Week 17: Raiders = Win

I have you at 8-8 (best case). Feel free to disagree.

Mahomes = Everyone says he is gonna be great. In Reid we trust. The Chiefs love him. Brett Favre-like, they say. 1-0 in his career.
Hill = THE CHEETAH! He made big progress last year, Smith was just too inconsistent on the long throws. Mahomes has a much better and more electrifying arm.
Kelce = BEST TE IN THE LEAGUE!

Week 1: @ SD = W
Week 2: @ Pitt = L
Week 3: SF = W
Week 4: @ Denver = W
Week 5: JAX = L
Week 6: @ NE = L
Week 7: Cinci = W
Week 8: Denver = W
Week 9: @ Clev = W
Week 10: AZ = W
Week 11: @ Rams = L
Week 12: Bye
Week 13: @ Raiders = W
Week 14: BAL = W
Week 15: SD = W
Week 16: @ Seattle = W
Week 17: Raiders = W

This is probably the best-case scenario. Very realistic. Chargers aint beating us. The haven't for maybe 5 years. Phillis (Cry me a) Rivers is awful vs the Chiefs. He's a choke artist.

Maybe they lose on the road to the Raiders, home VS SD, home VS BAL, or somewhere else but 10-6 or 9-7 is the floor for this team.

Denver beating them? Losing @ Seattle? Give me a break. Seattle is awful, and by week 16 their entire team will be injured. Denver is going 5-11.

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/21/2018 11:34:00 AM (view original):
Tang, if you see race as many factors, I have some questions. What are the other factors? Why, in all of your posts, do you only focus on fixing the "racial divide" and not the other factors?

Other factors include everything you guys have said. Luck, working hard, being naturally intelligent and everything else but race.

I am focusing on fixing the racial divide because it is the only thing we can control. The goal in my mind is to try to make sure that the most talented and hardest workers succeed. Race should never be a factor. Unfortunately, in some cases, it is. And that's a problem.

Give me an example of where luck played a role in success. I'm not talking about the lottery. I'm talking about in the business world.

Do you believe in luck?

Not really. I believe that people create their own destiny.

Can you give me an example of what you're referring to by luck?

I can't in the business world because I'm not knowledgeable enough, but I'm pretty sure they exist and can be cited, BUT I do know of instances of luck affecting other things like political fortune, or celebrity/fame.

Ask Dan Quayle or Sarah Palin.
A heartbeat from the presidency???? Really??

I disagree. I feel that people put themselves in the right position to be successful. I use coaching for a lot of examples because it is easy for me. We have a senior that just graduated. He was a JuCo transfer. I went to his junior college game to recruit the kid that was pitching. I ended up signing the outfielder that I had never heard before that day. I guess you could say that it was by luck that I was at the game, but his work ethic is the reason that he got signed.

To say I don't believe in luck isn't the complete truth. I do feel that some people are in the right place at the right time, but other factors led them to that place, usually a strong work ethic.

Posted by tangplay on 5/21/2018 12:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 5/21/2018 11:31:00 AM (view original):
Mahomes = unproven at best.
Hill = Fast but inconsistent
Hunt = Great
Watkins = see Hill
Kelce = Very good and very injury prone.

Week 1: @ SD = LOSS
Week 2: @ Pitt = LOSS
Week 3: SF = Win
Week 4: @ Denver = LOSS
Week 5: JAX = LOSS
Week 6: @ NE = LOSS
Week 7: Cinci = Win
Week 8: Denver = Win
Week 9: @ Clev = Win
Week 10: AZ = Win
Week 11: @ Rams = LOSS
Week 12: Bye
Week 13: @ Raiders = LOSS
Week 14: BAL = Win
Week 15: SD = Win
Week 16: @ Seattle = LOSS
Week 17: Raiders = Win

I have you at 8-8 (best case). Feel free to disagree.

Mahomes = Everyone says he is gonna be great. In Reid we trust. The Chiefs love him. Brett Favre-like, they say. 1-0 in his career.
Hill = THE CHEETAH! He made big progress last year, Smith was just too inconsistent on the long throws. Mahomes has a much better and more electrifying arm.
Kelce = BEST TE IN THE LEAGUE!

Week 1: @ SD = W
Week 2: @ Pitt = L
Week 3: SF = W
Week 4: @ Denver = W
Week 5: JAX = L
Week 6: @ NE = L
Week 7: Cinci = W
Week 8: Denver = W
Week 9: @ Clev = W
Week 10: AZ = W
Week 11: @ Rams = L
Week 12: Bye
Week 13: @ Raiders = W
Week 14: BAL = W
Week 15: SD = W
Week 16: @ Seattle = W
Week 17: Raiders = W

This is probably the best-case scenario. Very realistic. Chargers aint beating us. The haven't for maybe 5 years. Phillis (Cry me a) Rivers is awful vs the Chiefs. He's a choke artist.

Maybe they lose on the road to the Raiders, home VS SD, home VS BAL, or somewhere else but 10-6 or 9-7 is the floor for this team.

Denver beating them? Losing @ Seattle? Give me a break. Seattle is awful, and by week 16 their entire team will be injured. Denver is going 5-11.

The Raiders just might beat them twice this year...for sure at home and the Seattle team won't be anywhere near as bad as people think. This is one of the most unrealistic posts I've ever seen here and that's saying a lot.

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/21/2018 1:03:00 PM (view original):
Can you give me an example of what you're referring to by luck?

Random chance. One person gets picked for something over another purely randomly.

Posted by strikeout26 on 5/21/2018 1:31:00 PM (view original):
I disagree. I feel that people put themselves in the right position to be successful. I use coaching for a lot of examples because it is easy for me. We have a senior that just graduated. He was a JuCo transfer. I went to his junior college game to recruit the kid that was pitching. I ended up signing the outfielder that I had never heard before that day. I guess you could say that it was by luck that I was at the game, but his work ethic is the reason that he got signed.

It was luck that you just so happened to be there on the day the outfielder was playing well.