Posted by bad_luck on 6/8/2018 10:42:00 AM (view original):
This is dumb. Regardless of the histories of different religions, the vast majority of the earth’s billion Muslims are peaceful.

Terrorism is a political tool, not a religious one.

Peaceful yes but still treat women as 2nd class citizens, abhor gays, abhor dogs and their radical sect is more dangerous than that of any other religion. You're are delusional if you don't see that. How many other religions kill you over cartoons and then cheer when it happens. While only a tiny minority are terrorists, many applaud what these terrorists do. Those that denounce the terrorists still treat women and gays are inferior beings.

Not sure what your defense is but it sucks.

It isn't dumb. The doctrines in these religions haven't changed. Are there muslims who don't follow the doctrine? Of course. Are there "Christians" who have killed in the name of their religion? Of course. I'm strictly talking doctrines of the religions. Islam is not a peaceful religion. To say otherwise is pure ignorance.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/8/2018 10:47:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/8/2018 10:42:00 AM (view original):
This is dumb. Regardless of the histories of different religions, the vast majority of the earth’s billion Muslims are peaceful.

Terrorism is a political tool, not a religious one.

Peaceful yes but still treat women as 2nd class citizens, abhor gays, abhor dogs and their radical sect is more dangerous than that of any other religion. You're are delusional if you don't see that. How many other religions kill you over cartoons and then cheer when it happens. While only a tiny minority are terrorists, many applaud what these terrorists do. Those that denounce the terrorists still treat women and gays are inferior beings.

Not sure what your defense is but it sucks.

Well said.

bad luck is ignorant.

Yeah, but it's only because he doesn't want to believe the truth. He's very smart, but the left in power has brainwashed many.

"smart"?

He is OK

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/8/2018 10:48:00 AM (view original):
It isn't dumb. The doctrines in these religions haven't changed. Are there muslims who don't follow the doctrine? Of course. Are there "Christians" who have killed in the name of their religion? Of course. I'm strictly talking doctrines of the religions. Islam is not a peaceful religion. To say otherwise is pure ignorance.

So...what’s your end game?

What would you consider to be the ideal solution to this issue?

How about Truth? Instead of the stupid argument of only a small % are terrorists. So what the non terrorists don't share Western culture beliefs. How about not dressing your women in hijabs and allow them to be treated equally to the men?

Posted by bad_luck on 6/8/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/8/2018 10:48:00 AM (view original):
It isn't dumb. The doctrines in these religions haven't changed. Are there muslims who don't follow the doctrine? Of course. Are there "Christians" who have killed in the name of their religion? Of course. I'm strictly talking doctrines of the religions. Islam is not a peaceful religion. To say otherwise is pure ignorance.

So...what’s your end game?

What would you consider to be the ideal solution to this issue?

I don't have an end game. I'm not opposed to muslims coming to America. So few of them are violent in practice that it is unfair to ban them, but strictly arguing the theology of the religions, it is one of the few violent religions. Saying this, CCCP is correct about the human rights atrocities committed in Muslim countries.

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/8/2018 11:41:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/8/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/8/2018 10:48:00 AM (view original):
It isn't dumb. The doctrines in these religions haven't changed. Are there muslims who don't follow the doctrine? Of course. Are there "Christians" who have killed in the name of their religion? Of course. I'm strictly talking doctrines of the religions. Islam is not a peaceful religion. To say otherwise is pure ignorance.

So...what’s your end game?

What would you consider to be the ideal solution to this issue?

I don't have an end game. I'm not opposed to muslims coming to America. So few of them are violent in practice that it is unfair to ban them, but strictly arguing the theology of the religions, it is one of the few violent religions. Saying this, CCCP is correct about the human rights atrocities committed in Muslim countries.

To be fair, there are human rights atrocities committed in Christian countries (Sudan and Philippines are just two examples) and Buddhist countries (China).

Like with terrorism, treating your citizens like **** is a political tool masked behind religion. It’s about power, not faith.

One of my best friends is a Muslim immigrant from Pakistan. He is cool and not remotely radical. He however does not believe that men and women are equals.

I agree, but those atrocities in Christian countries goes against the Christian text and are not Christian in nature. The Muslim text promotes them.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 6/7/2018 8:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/7/2018 8:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 6/7/2018 6:31:00 PM (view original):
Just out of curiosity, how many Palestinians do any of you know? Not many, I'm guessing. Yet you have no problem opining about what most Palestinians want.

YouTube it. YouTube “BDS”. One does not have to personally know them to know what most of them want.

I don't know if the "know what most of them want" is correct but I do agree that asking something like "how many do you know?" is a little silly. What's the magic number? There are 2.5 million in the West Bank alone...

right. So, it is silly for cccp to say he knows what most of them want. I doubt the video he talks about shows more than a few thousand, if that. Yet, he can determine from that video, what most of the millions of Palestinians want. My point is that we have no idea what most Palestinians want. I know there are some who want Israel destroyed, but I have no idea what percentage of them feel that way. Neither does cccp, regardless of what he says or how many videos he watches.

Posted by bad_luck on 6/8/2018 11:47:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/8/2018 11:41:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 6/8/2018 10:58:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/8/2018 10:48:00 AM (view original):
It isn't dumb. The doctrines in these religions haven't changed. Are there muslims who don't follow the doctrine? Of course. Are there "Christians" who have killed in the name of their religion? Of course. I'm strictly talking doctrines of the religions. Islam is not a peaceful religion. To say otherwise is pure ignorance.

So...what’s your end game?

What would you consider to be the ideal solution to this issue?

I don't have an end game. I'm not opposed to muslims coming to America. So few of them are violent in practice that it is unfair to ban them, but strictly arguing the theology of the religions, it is one of the few violent religions. Saying this, CCCP is correct about the human rights atrocities committed in Muslim countries.

To be fair, there are human rights atrocities committed in Christian countries (Sudan and Philippines are just two examples) and Buddhist countries (China).

Like with terrorism, treating your citizens like **** is a political tool masked behind religion. It’s about power, not faith.

Sudan = 97% Muslim
Phi = Largest act committed by an Islam faction?
China = Communist

Can you name one predominantly Muslim country that is all 3?:

#1) Socially Respectful
#2) Democracy
#3) Economically not 3rd world.

There are 50+

Name one

Posted by wylie715 on 6/8/2018 11:50:00 AM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 6/7/2018 8:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/7/2018 8:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by wylie715 on 6/7/2018 6:31:00 PM (view original):
Just out of curiosity, how many Palestinians do any of you know? Not many, I'm guessing. Yet you have no problem opining about what most Palestinians want.

YouTube it. YouTube “BDS”. One does not have to personally know them to know what most of them want.

I don't know if the "know what most of them want" is correct but I do agree that asking something like "how many do you know?" is a little silly. What's the magic number? There are 2.5 million in the West Bank alone...

right. So, it is silly for cccp to say he knows what most of them want. I doubt the video he talks about shows more than a few thousand, if that. Yet, he can determine from that video, what most of the millions of Palestinians want. My point is that we have no idea what most Palestinians want. I know there are some who want Israel destroyed, but I have no idea what percentage of them feel that way. Neither does cccp, regardless of what he says or how many videos he watches.

I am taking an educated guess. If you had to bet your life on that question how would you guess?

Pretty sure you'd agree with me. You argue just to argue.