Did the Obama Administration Place Immigrant Children With Human Traffickers?

A congressional report and criminal indictment resulted from a 2014 incident in which multiple immigrant children were handed off to a human trafficking ring.

CLAIM

The Obama administration placed immigrant children with human traffickers.

RATING

TRUE

ORIGIN

On 17 June 2018, right-wing blogs published a flurry of stories reporting that the administration of former United States President Barack Obama had handed immigrant children over to human traffickers.

The reports were posted in response to the public outcry over a policy enacted by Obama’s successor, Donald Trump, whose administration in April 2018 announced a “zero tolerance” immigration policy. Under this policy, all adults who are caught crossing the southern U.S. border between ports of entry are being charged with federal crimes and then separated from accompanying children.

As the policy went into effect, news reports documenting scenes of distraught, traumatizedchildren being torn from their parents by immigration authorities, and images migrant children being held in cages, created a backlash from both sides of the political spectrum against the Trump administration.

In response to the growing fallout, the president’s supporters wrote up stories criticizing his predecessor based on a 2015 criminal case and 2016 Senate report stemming from a Marion, Ohio human trafficking ring that used migrant children for forced labor on an egg farm. Right-leaning blogs like WesternJournal.com’s Conservative Tribune for example confusingly reportedthe media was “silent” about the case while aggregating their story from a New York Magazinereport:

The left-leaning media stayed strangely silent when the detention of migrant children went on for years before Trump took office… and now it looks like they also kept quiet when Barack Obama’s administration literally placed immigrant children in the hands of human traffickers just a few years ago.

“The United States government placed an unknown number of Central American migrant children into the custody of human traffickers after neglecting to run the most basic checks on these so-called ‘caregivers,’” New York magazine reported in 2016, based on a Senate report.

from your source

"It’s an obviously false statement that the “left-leaning media stayed strangely silent” about the case, because a simple Google search reveals it has been thoroughly reported on by local and national outlets and is the subject of a PBS documentary film. As the text notes, Conservative Tribune’s own story was based on such reporting."

the yellow bar stuff at your source is the claim, not the evaluation

Speak English.

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Posted by tangplay on 6/23/2018 3:59:00 PM (view original):
Yeah but your business is to serve cakes.

Doesn't matter if you own your business. as a business owner you can set your own store hours, hire as many employees as you want, choose to close on sundays, etc. who are you to tell that business owner what they can and can not do? in this baker case he does sell cakes to gay people, to anyone who wants to buy them... he just won't custom make a cake for a specific event that goes against his religion (which is protected in the USA).

Fine. I still don't see why that is different from not serving SHS.

I have no idea what SHS is....

Ahhhh.... I see now. The baker is required to serve gays whatever his store offers anyone else (i.e. his usual goods) and he always has, in fact he even told the gay couple they can choose any of his normal cakes if they'd like. When the request is made to make a custom cake that impugned upon his protected beliefs he is not required to make that cake, assuming the gay couple can go elsewhere to buy it.

Let's put it this way for SHS - would a restaurant be required to make SHS a kosher meal if its not already on the menu? of course not, even though they serve meals for a living. That said they can not deny her whatever they serve anyone else thats on the menu.

Make sense?

Did the baker have a business of making CUSTOM cakes for an event? I thought the rejection was based upon religion, not that the business he ran wasn't serving custom cakes.

JUST SOME STUFF

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• CNSNews: Schumer: ‘There’s No Need’ for Immigration Legislation; Republicans Are ‘Feeling the Heat’
• CNBC: Millennials Moving Out of Mom and Dad’s Place, Study Shows
• FOXNews: Peter Fonda Tweets He Wants to ‘Rip Barron Trump from His Mother’ and Put Him in a ‘Cage with Pedophiles’
• The Hill: Peter Fonda Calls for Protests Against ICE Agents’ Families
• Daily Wire: Democratic Socialists Attack DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen At Dinner
• TCPalm: Stuart Man Charged with Threatening Rep. Brian Mast’s Children Over Trump Policy
• Daily Caller: Melania Calls Secret Service After Actor Peter Fonda Calls For Barron Trump To Be Kidnapped
• NewsBusters: Press Found UAC Trafficking in Jan. 2016, Did No White House Follow-up
• AP: President Donald Trump, GOP Leaders Strain for Migrant-Kids Solution
• CBS Los Angeles: Border Patrol Official: Young Girls Illegally Entering US Given Birth Control, Plan B
• NBC: Trump Says He’ll Sign Order Stopping His Policy of Separating Families at Border
• CNN: Trump Supporters React to Family Separations
• The Hill: Schumer Rejects GOP Proposal to Address Border Crisis
• The Federalist: Democrat Bill Would Let Parents Who Commit Fed Crimes Go Scot-Free
• FOXNews: IG Confirms He is Reviewing Whether Strzok’s Anti-Trump Bias Impacted Launch of Russia Probe
• National Review: Clinton Emails: What the IG Report Refuses to Admit – Andrew C. McCarthy
• FOXNews: ‘Clinton Cash’ Author Reacts to IG Report on Email Probe
• FOXNews: FBI May Have Modified Witness Reports, Misled DOJ Watchdog with ‘False Information,’ GOP Rep Says
• Washington Times: Three Airlines Want No Part of Enforcing Trump’s Family Separation Policy

Posted by tangplay on 6/23/2018 8:32:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/23/2018 5:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/23/2018 5:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/23/2018 5:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/23/2018 4:16:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/23/2018 3:59:00 PM (view original):
Yeah but your business is to serve cakes.

Doesn't matter if you own your business. as a business owner you can set your own store hours, hire as many employees as you want, choose to close on sundays, etc. who are you to tell that business owner what they can and can not do? in this baker case he does sell cakes to gay people, to anyone who wants to buy them... he just won't custom make a cake for a specific event that goes against his religion (which is protected in the USA).

Fine. I still don't see why that is different from not serving SHS.

I have no idea what SHS is....

Ahhhh.... I see now. The baker is required to serve gays whatever his store offers anyone else (i.e. his usual goods) and he always has, in fact he even told the gay couple they can choose any of his normal cakes if they'd like. When the request is made to make a custom cake that impugned upon his protected beliefs he is not required to make that cake, assuming the gay couple can go elsewhere to buy it.

Let's put it this way for SHS - would a restaurant be required to make SHS a kosher meal if its not already on the menu? of course not, even though they serve meals for a living. That said they can not deny her whatever they serve anyone else thats on the menu.

Make sense?

Did the baker have a business of making CUSTOM cakes for an event? I thought the rejection was based upon religion, not that the business he ran wasn't serving custom cakes.

"Jack (the baker) serves all customers; he simply declines to express messages or celebrate events that violate his deeply held beliefs," Waggoner (his atty) said in a statement. "Creative professionals who serve all people should be free to create art consistent with their convictions without the threat of government punishment."

From the court ruling:

"A custom wedding cake is not an ordinary baked good; its function is more communicative and artistic than utilitarian," Solicitor General Noel Francisco argued. "Accordingly, the government may not enact content-based laws commanding a speaker to engage in protected expression: An artist cannot be forced to paint, a musician cannot be forced to play, and a poet cannot be forced to write."

Posted by moy23 on 6/23/2018 9:02:00 PM (view original):
From the court ruling:

"A custom wedding cake is not an ordinary baked good; its function is more communicative and artistic than utilitarian," Solicitor General Noel Francisco argued. "Accordingly, the government may not enact content-based laws commanding a speaker to engage in protected expression: An artist cannot be forced to paint, a musician cannot be forced to play, and a poet cannot be forced to write."

How many non-custom wedding cakes are made? Lol

8 guidelines for non-Muslim caterers

Sound Vision Staff Writer

If you've decided to have your wedding food catered, you may feel a sense of relief.

After all, you no longer have to worry about one of the main items of one of the most important social events you'll ever organize.

But if you've selected a non-Muslim caterer to prepare the food for your wedding, you've got to provide them with some basic guidelines for food preparation.

Below is a sample list of some things you need to inform your caterer about when it comes to preparing food for a Muslim wedding. It would be a good idea to include these in the written contract you sign with him/her.

1. Be clear about meat guidelines

If you are going to have a couple of meat dishes, make sure that caterers only use Zabiha meat when preparing them.

Caterers should be given a list of Muslim butchers and their addresses. You should verify whether or not they have actually bought the meat from a Muslim butcher.

2. Provide a list of ingredients

Halal food is not just defined by the kind of meat you eat, but also by the ingredients in the food.

Caterers need to be provided with a list of ingredients that Muslims do not use in their food so that they avoid them when preparing the wedding meal.

3. Be clear about shortening

Tell the caterer not to use any animal shortening. Instead, s/he should use pure vegetable shortening which has vegetable mono- and di-glycerides as its ingredients.

4. Be careful about stock

Caterers should be informed that they should not use animal-based stock.

5. All types of alcohol must be avoided

This includes cooking wine, sherry or wine vinegar.

6. All food should be prepared with clean hands

There are actually laws in some states which require employers in the food preparation industry to put a reminder in the washroom for employees to clean their hands after using the bathroom. It may seem obvious to you, but it would not hurt to make it categorically clear that all food for your wedding needs to be prepared with clean hands.

7. All servers need to be properly covered

If the caterers are also taking care of the food serving, don't forget to inform them about appropriate dress for a Muslim wedding. Any dress is fine if it covers body and legs properly. It means no shorts, tights, and no low-cut blouses.

8. Islamic protocol in gender interaction

Caterers should tell servers that ladies serve ladies and men serve men.

Remember you are paying for it. You are in charge.

Posted by The Taint on 6/23/2018 9:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by moy23 on 6/23/2018 9:02:00 PM (view original):
From the court ruling:

"A custom wedding cake is not an ordinary baked good; its function is more communicative and artistic than utilitarian," Solicitor General Noel Francisco argued. "Accordingly, the government may not enact content-based laws commanding a speaker to engage in protected expression: An artist cannot be forced to paint, a musician cannot be forced to play, and a poet cannot be forced to write."

How many non-custom wedding cakes are made? Lol

If I wanted an artist to paint me a picture of a black man being hung and a jewish person being gassed to death with hitler and a KKK hood laughing.... or maybe another painting of an old man ******* a 9 year old child.... is the artist required to paint those pictures for me because they're an artist or should they be allowed to decline?

Extremes extremes extremes. I would bet there are close to zero non-custom wedding cakes.

sarah can use to skip a few meals as it is. Just helping her along.

Posted by The Taint on 6/23/2018 9:20:00 PM (view original):
Extremes extremes extremes. I would bet there are close to zero non-custom wedding cakes.

sarah can use to skip a few meals as it is. Just helping her along.

so you won't answer my question....

sarah's fat.... doesn't mean a restaurant shouldn't serve her whats on the menu. Are you suggesting that grocery stores and restaurants shouldn't serve/feed fat people by law?

Its a dumb question. Common sense is sorely lacking. All three portray hate crimes/breaking the law. It doesnt deserve an answer. Just equating those situations to a gay wedding tells me enough about you.


its funny how you guys are all free market freaks until the shoe is on the other foot. The eatery made a decision based on their morals/christian beliefs. Whats wrong with that? I personally think its dumb but the bar has been set now.

You righties kill me. Say black lives matter and you answer "all lives matter", then the reaction with seperations show that's bullshit.

now its we should be able to discriminate when its our closely held beliefs but when it afflicts you, you cry like the little thin skinned ******* you are.

Womp Womp

Posted by The Taint on 6/23/2018 9:40:00 PM (view original):
Its a dumb question. Common sense is sorely lacking. All three portray hate crimes/breaking the law. It doesnt deserve an answer. Just equating those situations to a gay wedding tells me enough about you.


its funny how you guys are all free market freaks until the shoe is on the other foot. The eatery made a decision based on their morals/christian beliefs. Whats wrong with that? I personally think its dumb but the bar has been set now.

You righties kill me. Say black lives matter and you answer "all lives matter", then the reaction with seperations show that's bullshit.

now its we should be able to discriminate when its our closely held beliefs but when it afflicts you, you cry like the little thin skinned ******* you are.

Womp Womp

so you think restaurants should be able to not serve fat people... and artists must paint repulsive pictures no matter what they believe. got it.

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