I have a D3 FR. Triangle/Man SF who I think will be very good.
I don't need him to be a top 3 scoring option until his JR. year. If possible I will RS him his SOPH year but I don't know if he will take it next season. Any thought on how to focus his practice minutes

ATHLETICISM	73	orange	->78
SPEED	42	blue	->65
REBOUNDING	17	black	->30
DEFENSE	55	green	->85+
SHOT BLOCKING	13	red	->15
LOW-POST	34	green	->64+
PERIMETER	32	green	->62+
BALL HANDLING	34	green	->64+
PASSING	15	green	->45+
WORK ETHIC	63
STAMINA	62	green	->92+
DURABILITY	45	blue

Assuming 20 minutes off/def, I probably put 12 in conditioning, 20 in footwork, 6 in rebounding (or 0 if you eventually see him as a guard), 6 in per and LP, 15 BH, 15 passing, 10FT (unless orange or red, in which case, a bit less). I’d kick up the per/LP once defense gets to the 70 range, and start scaling everything else down a little. Rebounding is probably the last thing I’d start working on. Obviously the more starts/pt he can get, the better he’ll end up, and his ath/def is good enough not to hurt you while he develops. Nice find.

I don't have enough information to give you advice on what you should do as far as practice minutes, but will say that LP/PE could potentially show the biggest gains.

What else could you possibly need?

Lp and per will roll with 15 on each. The ath and def is already enough to compete at d3. Might want to focus on bh and pa to keep the offense moving efficiently when he's in there. Probably want 10-15 on Reb if you want to use em as SF. Just my guess tho.

That's the rub right? The dude has a chance to be an ELITE scoring option, like 80+ LP and PER with 75 ATH with speed and BH in the 60's but to get that monster growth out of the two scoring equations he's gonna need more than a few seasons with 20ish minutes.

I to get that I need to punt something and maybe two somethings. Rebounding is my first choice not sure about the second.

Posted by Trentonjoe on 6/28/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):
What else could you possibly need?

What position you'll end up playing him at. Right now, he's a 3, but if he's BH and Passing develops. , he could turn into a 2 or possibly a 1 with significant improvement.

You should be able to gauge if one or both the scoring categories is a “massive” growth opportunity by the middle of the year or so, based on how they develop at 5-6 for a dozen+ games. If one of them is growing faster, that’s the one I would kick up to 20 first, possibly before the end of the freshman year. I would plan on him not accepting a sophomore redshirt, though you could get lucky. This way, he starts the sophomore season, when you don’t yet need him to score, as a 75/50+/75 Ath/Spd/Def guy, who is perfectly capable of starting for you. I would scale back the defense minutes, along with ball handling (I’d keep more minutes on passing, personally, until he crosses 30 or so, which could take a couple seasons starting that low), and start the sophomore season with one of the scoring categories at 20.

He’ll be a beast by the start of his 3rd year, and then you can start developing the other scoring option. May not completely max (although I wouldn’t rule it out with that work ethic, especially if you can start him 3 seasons), but he’ll be POY caliber anyway, if one or both of those scoring options is super high.

Posted by thewizard17 on 6/28/2018 12:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 6/28/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):
What else could you possibly need?

What position you'll end up playing him at. Right now, he's a 3, but if he's BH and Passing develops. , he could turn into a 2 or possibly a 1 with significant improvement.

I wouldn’t plan on passing getting much above 45, I don’t think I’ve ever seen this type of player with super-high passing growth. Much more likely he turns blue after a point or two.

What color is the ft's?

Posted by shoe3 on 6/28/2018 10:16:00 AM (view original):
Assuming 20 minutes off/def, I probably put 12 in conditioning, 20 in footwork, 6 in rebounding (or 0 if you eventually see him as a guard), 6 in per and LP, 15 BH, 15 passing, 10FT (unless orange or red, in which case, a bit less). I’d kick up the per/LP once defense gets to the 70 range, and start scaling everything else down a little. Rebounding is probably the last thing I’d start working on. Obviously the more starts/pt he can get, the better he’ll end up, and his ath/def is good enough not to hurt you while he develops. Nice find.

I'm thinking along the same lines, though I'd keep REB at zero for a while, and maybe punt on BH for now and re-distribute those mins to conditioning, LP, PER, and PAS. The extra boost in PAS will help right away, and if Trenton's not planning on this guy having a significant distro for his first two seasons, the BH won't matter quite as much right away. Extra mins at LP and PER will help us find out more quickly which skill has greater potential (and if both do, even better).
Awesome player.

Assuming you have 90 minutes left I’d start by putting 15 each into cond, def, lp, per, bh, and p and zero everything else out (shouldn’t be an issue losing growth with a 60+ WE). Since you have so many greens putting the same number of minutes into each of the green-related categories will give you an idea of which categories will grow more than others and you’ll know this after 4-5 practices. From there you can make a better determination of his ceilings and how quickly you’d want him to reach his potentials in each category.

Posted by darnoc29099 on 6/28/2018 1:09:00 PM (view original):
Assuming you have 90 minutes left I’d start by putting 15 each into cond, def, lp, per, bh, and p and zero everything else out (shouldn’t be an issue losing growth with a 60+ WE). Since you have so many greens putting the same number of minutes into each of the green-related categories will give you an idea of which categories will grow more than others and you’ll know this after 4-5 practices. From there you can make a better determination of his ceilings and how quickly you’d want him to reach his potentials in each category.

If he’s close to blue, he can definitely lose points, maybe multiple per year (unless he’s starting, in which case, *probably* not multiple). If he’s closer to yellow, he’s probably ok. It’s not the end of the world for a guy with 17 Reb to lose a few points per season, especially if you foresee him as a guard, but it’s worth considering.

Posted by thewizard17 on 6/28/2018 12:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 6/28/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):
What else could you possibly need?

What position you'll end up playing him at. Right now, he's a 3, but if he's BH and Passing develops. , he could turn into a 2 or possibly a 1 with significant improvement.

I am pretty confident he will always be a 3 for me.

Posted by shoe3 on 6/28/2018 12:49:00 PM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 6/28/2018 12:35:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Trentonjoe on 6/28/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):
What else could you possibly need?

What position you'll end up playing him at. Right now, he's a 3, but if he's BH and Passing develops. , he could turn into a 2 or possibly a 1 with significant improvement.

I wouldn’t plan on passing getting much above 45, I don’t think I’ve ever seen this type of player with super-high passing growth. Much more likely he turns blue after a point or two.

Why does the type of player matter for growth? Green passing can be in the 40s.