Our military aircraft are superior to all others. Capability, workmanship, research and development, spare parts procurement. We pay more for the quality product.

Labor costs drive up the price. We can't compete with the Chinese on that.

We need to strive to be as efficient as possible. Trump has been vocal fighting for fairness from the manufacturers on costs. So what if he gets them ****** off? Results matter.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 7/6/2018 12:19:00 PM (view original):
How do you produce cheaper jets? The cost is the sum of its parts? LOL.

So now you're going to tell Lockheed Martin that you will pay less for the jets, so would that not impact jobs, safety, innovation, etc? You do realize, Tang, that the military does not build its own jets, it buys them from the private sector, which is why when you increase that budget you also help out the private sector. I swear my middle school kids are smarter than you.

The relation of jets to costs is much different here than it is for places like China and Russia, right? That's because we spend more money on individual jets. Yes, we buy them from the private sector. But you are talking jobs. The same amount of jets means the same amount of jobs. You are acting like not spending 700 billion on the military will destroy the economy. Spending, say, 500 billion on the military will still be the most in the world.

What? No China and Russia spend the same per jet. And lowering the budget by $200mil would cost jobs and companies to go bankrupt. See Sequester.

Are you insane?

No, they don't compared to us. We spend way more on project jets that cost billions. How many jobs?

Go and look at the Lockheed 10K

I looked, it up, don't know what to look for.

The extra commas are bothering me in this coming from a professional writer.

Grammar police? Don't sweat the small stuff...

Nah, Tang and I have a good relationship and mutual respect. We have been making fun jabs at each other for a while now.

This is actually a pretty damn decent thread, considering the volatile topic.

Yep. Some pretty intelligent people from both sides of the political spectrum contribute and for the most part the conversation remains civil.

I wish Taint would contribute more. I rarely agree with his opinions and he ****** me off at times, but he does offer well thought out points.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 7/6/2018 12:19:00 PM (view original):
How do you produce cheaper jets? The cost is the sum of its parts? LOL.

So now you're going to tell Lockheed Martin that you will pay less for the jets, so would that not impact jobs, safety, innovation, etc? You do realize, Tang, that the military does not build its own jets, it buys them from the private sector, which is why when you increase that budget you also help out the private sector. I swear my middle school kids are smarter than you.

The relation of jets to costs is much different here than it is for places like China and Russia, right? That's because we spend more money on individual jets. Yes, we buy them from the private sector. But you are talking jobs. The same amount of jets means the same amount of jobs. You are acting like not spending 700 billion on the military will destroy the economy. Spending, say, 500 billion on the military will still be the most in the world.

What? No China and Russia spend the same per jet. And lowering the budget by $200mil would cost jobs and companies to go bankrupt. See Sequester.

Are you insane?

No, they don't compared to us. We spend way more on project jets that cost billions. How many jobs?

Go and look at the Lockheed 10K

I looked, it up, don't know what to look for.

The extra commas are bothering me in this coming from a professional writer.

Oops, just noticed that. I typed that directly after hurting my forearm so I was in a lot of pain and was using one hand. I obviously didn't mean to put a comma there.

Posted by strikeout26 on 7/6/2018 10:52:00 PM (view original):
I wish Taint would contribute more. I rarely agree with his opinions and he ****** me off at times, but he does offer well thought out points.

Wylie too. As much as you guys give him crap, he really does offer some good moderate opinions.

I hope you know I was kidding with you. Toughen up about that forearm, too.

Iced, it, up. I'll, be, fine :)

This thread is becoming gay.

The thread's name is TRUMP: Best President ever.

Posted by DoctorKz on 7/6/2018 4:40:00 PM (view original):
Yes, our flag. Yours and mine. I served to honor our flag, my flag...I wasn't hogging it. I share...

Very Good Doc! Thank You again for serving.

You served to "honor" our Flag. The Flag is a cymbal of WHAT we are.......... what WE stand for. THAT is what you served for.........OUR VALUES!
That includes the "right" to peaceful protest. (1st Amendment!)
What part of "kneeling during the singing of our anthem" violates ANY principle of this Country?
The "kneeling" part was suggested to C.K. as a way to be more "respectful" during his peaceful protest by another VETERAN (like yourself!).
It IS definitely peaceful protest........... by ANY measure.

What don't you understand about this?? You fought to preserve C.K.'s right to 1st Amendment peaceful protest.
You now want to take that "right" from him because we have some short-sighted "snowflakes" who don't have the intellect to understand the sacred nature of our guaranteed freedoms!!??

I sure never thought you'd side with neer-do-well snowflakes with loud voices and tiny brains.

Looks like maybe you and I will be battling for the cellar in our division of 2scoops this year.
GL........... I guess .......... lol

So bob wants Doc to respect those he disagrees with, while at the same time calling those who he himself disagrees with names.
Makes perfect sense - at least in today's hypocrite-filled anti-POTUS crowd.