TRUMP: Best President Ever (New and Improved!) Topic

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:17:00 PM (view original):
I mean, you don’t know enough about baseball to really dispute it, so you call names.
No I do. Hunter is in the HoF and Radke is not even close. So most "experts" agree with me.

So who doesn't know enough about baseball? Little man? You!
Oh, ok. It’s the “old baseball writers were perfect in their hall of fame choices” argument. Good job. It’s not like Hunter is universally recognized as one of the worst selections of all time.

...oh wait
Brad Radke cannot even sniff hall of fame well he can in the Twins Hall of Fame. LOL.

You want to die on this hill again? LMAO.
And the argument is that Hunter should be out there with him, not sniffing anything.
Radke similar pitchers (same guy): Arroyo, Lieber, Tapani, Haren, Belcher

Hunter similar pitchers (same guy): Tiant, Pappas, Blue, Hershiser, Drysdale

Yeah...you're a baseball expert alright. LOL.

BTW --- still waiting on that email question I posed to you that you avoid....Progress?
Similar pitchers is not “same guy.” Why do you editorialize like that?

Radke threw 1000 less IP than Hunter, so they aren’t going to show up on a similarly score. But Radke was more effective over his 2500 IP (113 ERA+) than Hunter was over 3500 IP (104 ERA+).

Those 1000 innings matter but not enough to push Hunter into a higher tier than Radke. They were both mediocre.

Hunter pitched for really good teams, at a time of offensive anemia, was the first free agent, and had a cool nickname. So he found a way into the Hall. He certainly doesn’t deserve to be there.
similar pitchers = same guy. Longevity matters and his was cut short due to his disease.

My point is they are not remotely close to being the same guy. Hunter was better. Is he a HoF pitcher. IDK. I didn't see him pitch. His stats are decent but I like his IP and WHIP and he was a winner. I don't dismiss wins you do. I understand why.
7/16/2018 12:57 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.
The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”
7/16/2018 1:02 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/16/2018 12:57:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:17:00 PM (view original):
I mean, you don’t know enough about baseball to really dispute it, so you call names.
No I do. Hunter is in the HoF and Radke is not even close. So most "experts" agree with me.

So who doesn't know enough about baseball? Little man? You!
Oh, ok. It’s the “old baseball writers were perfect in their hall of fame choices” argument. Good job. It’s not like Hunter is universally recognized as one of the worst selections of all time.

...oh wait
Brad Radke cannot even sniff hall of fame well he can in the Twins Hall of Fame. LOL.

You want to die on this hill again? LMAO.
And the argument is that Hunter should be out there with him, not sniffing anything.
Radke similar pitchers (same guy): Arroyo, Lieber, Tapani, Haren, Belcher

Hunter similar pitchers (same guy): Tiant, Pappas, Blue, Hershiser, Drysdale

Yeah...you're a baseball expert alright. LOL.

BTW --- still waiting on that email question I posed to you that you avoid....Progress?
Similar pitchers is not “same guy.” Why do you editorialize like that?

Radke threw 1000 less IP than Hunter, so they aren’t going to show up on a similarly score. But Radke was more effective over his 2500 IP (113 ERA+) than Hunter was over 3500 IP (104 ERA+).

Those 1000 innings matter but not enough to push Hunter into a higher tier than Radke. They were both mediocre.

Hunter pitched for really good teams, at a time of offensive anemia, was the first free agent, and had a cool nickname. So he found a way into the Hall. He certainly doesn’t deserve to be there.
similar pitchers = same guy. Longevity matters and his was cut short due to his disease.

My point is they are not remotely close to being the same guy. Hunter was better. Is he a HoF pitcher. IDK. I didn't see him pitch. His stats are decent but I like his IP and WHIP and he was a winner. I don't dismiss wins you do. I understand why.
Similar does not mean same.

Longevity does matter. Neither pitcher was exceptional. Hunter was better.

Preventing runs matters. Radke was better at that.

Pitcher W/L does not matter at all.
7/16/2018 1:02 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/16/2018 1:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.
The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”
Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?
7/16/2018 1:05 PM
Similar = same guy. Semantics.

Doesn't matter to you but does to me. Opinions vary. Winning 20 or more five straight times is impressive. Well to me it is.
7/16/2018 1:06 PM
The GOP found that......hahahahahahaha.


In other news, the foxes found no evidence of foul play in the hen house.

7/16/2018 1:08 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 1:05:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.
The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”
Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?
You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:
  1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
  2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
  3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
  4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
  5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
  6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
  7. Huma's husband was a creep.
  8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
  9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
  10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.
Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?
7/16/2018 1:12 PM
Posted by The Taint on 7/16/2018 1:08:00 PM (view original):
The GOP found that......hahahahahahaha.


In other news, the foxes found no evidence of foul play in the hen house.

He referenced the GOP piece of it initially. Keep up, old man.
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7/16/2018 1:14 PM
Posted by The Taint on 7/16/2018 1:14:00 PM (view original):





Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?
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7/16/2018 1:15 PM
Posted by The Taint on 7/16/2018 1:15:00 PM (view original):








Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?
7/16/2018 1:16 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/16/2018 1:12:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.
The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”
Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?
You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:
  1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
  2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
  3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
  4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
  5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
  6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
  7. Huma's husband was a creep.
  8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
  9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
  10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.
Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?
Releasing the private communications of the campaign damaged the campaign.

I'm not going to re-litigate the election. It's a fact that Russia was actively helping Trump. It's not blame, it's acknowledging reality.
7/16/2018 1:16 PM
Again, what specifically did they do to cause her to lose votes or for Trump to gain votes?

Thanks,

Trump's #1 supporter!
7/16/2018 1:18 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/16/2018 1:12:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 1:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/16/2018 1:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.
The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”
Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?
You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:
  1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
  2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
  3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
  4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
  5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
  6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
  7. Huma's husband was a creep.
  8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
  9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
  10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.
Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?
They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.
7/16/2018 1:19 PM
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