Posted by cccp1014 on 7/16/2018 10:13:00 AM (view original):
Bob, if Trump was kidnapped by aliens tomorrow the country would still be divided. People like you, bad luck and me drive the divide because we don't listen to one another we just talk over each other. I admit that I am very self righteous. I can at least self identify. bad luck cannot. Tangplay cannot. Can you?

Absolutely. I'm a stubborn old white guy who has grown very weary of other HUMANS stupidity and irresponsibility.
I tend to be VERY intolerant of actions that I abhor, words that cause damage, stupidity that interferes with my life, peace, or well being.
As a male, I tend to be violent when threatened, demanding, sexual in nature, if not action (any more!), and possess a huge desire to control my surroundings so as to provide security and serenity.
I understand, however, that in order to demand as much freedom as I do that I MUST (in THIS COUNTRY) also DEMAND the same amount of freedom for all others-------- within OUR Laws!

Self righteousness and ignorance are TWO character faults I can't afford.
They lead to losing!

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

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Posted by cccp1014 on 7/16/2018 10:13:00 AM (view original):
Bob, if Trump was kidnapped by aliens tomorrow the country would still be divided. People like you, bad luck and me drive the divide because we don't listen to one another we just talk over each other. I admit that I am very self righteous. I can at least self identify. bad luck cannot. Tangplay cannot. Can you?

Absolutely. I'm a stubborn old white guy who has grown very weary of other HUMANS stupidity and irresponsibility.
I tend to be VERY intolerant of actions that I abhor, words that cause damage, stupidity that interferes with my life, peace, or well being.
As a male, I tend to be violent when threatened, demanding, sexual in nature, if not action (any more!), and possess a huge desire to control my surroundings so as to provide security and serenity.
I understand, however, that in order to demand as much freedom as I do that I MUST (in THIS COUNTRY) also DEMAND the same amount of freedom for all others-------- within OUR Laws!

Self righteousness and ignorance are TWO character faults I can't afford.
They lead to losing!

Thanks for your honesty.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

I do Boris. I also agree with your list of HRC's faults and mistakes. She was a HUGE failure as a legitimate candidate for Pres. On a LARGE number of measures. Thus, in a very divided electorate, with (in reality) very few really in the middle and completely unbiased and undecided, a sneaky, tricky, campaign of dishonest info, rumors, attacks, etc (Pizza whores anyone?? lol), led MANY to vote for "the other".

To many, "the other" could have been anybody---------even a popular Muslim (an American Boris Johnson??), or Putin's *****!
I ain't concerned about collusion in the freaking least.
I'm concerned about traitorous behavior in the WH!.................

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Different example. You’re Sarah Smith. You live in Michigan. You were a die-hard Bernie supporter but plan to vote for Clinton in the general. Then the DNC emails are leaked and you get ****** because you think the DNC wasn’t fair to Bernie. So you stay home. Trump wins Michigan.

Boris Johnson!!! YES!!!

My brother from another mother. LOL.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Why was Russia shopping dirt on Clinton and why was Trump's campaign interested in getting said dirt if there was no benefit to it?

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Different example. You’re Sarah Smith. You live in Michigan. You were a die-hard Bernie supporter but plan to vote for Clinton in the general. Then the DNC emails are leaked and you get ****** because you think the DNC wasn’t fair to Bernie. So you stay home. Trump wins Michigan.

Wait what was in those emails that showed the DNC was not fair to Bernie and should the voter not at least know this before casting her vote for HRC. Imagine if she does vote for HRC and finds out later that there was collusion against Bernie? Won't she feel betrayed?

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Different example. You’re Sarah Smith. You live in Michigan. You were a die-hard Bernie supporter but plan to vote for Clinton in the general. Then the DNC emails are leaked and you get ****** because you think the DNC wasn’t fair to Bernie. So you stay home. Trump wins Michigan.

Exactly.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Why was Russia shopping dirt on Clinton and why was Trump's campaign interested in getting said dirt if there was no benefit to it?

IDK - This is what bothers me. How does colluding help anything? What can Russia do to influence US votes?

The bigger issue is and I didn't even know about it, is that the DNC colluded vs. Sanders? Is that true?

The bigger issue is that the DNC colluded within itself and not that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?


Wow. I think that says it all about partisanship in America.

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/16/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):
I’m ignoring your Russia question because I already posted the GOP-led Senate intelligence committee report saying that Russia interfered in the election to benefit Trump. You ignored that.

The GOP-authored report found “no evidence” that the Trump campaign “colluded, coordinated or conspired with Russia.”

Yeah. That’s not what I said. I said Russia helped Trump.

Aside from that we don’t know that they colluded. But think about it, we know for a fact that Russia was trying to help Trump win. We also know for a fact, thanks to Dummy Jr., that the campaign was open to receiving help. So, what was stopping them from colluding?

You said the release of emails caused HRC to lose votes. I wanted to know how? What was released in those emails that helped her lose votes? Did Russia really expose her as a flawed candidate?

Was it Russia's fault that:

1. Benghazi happened on her watch.
2. Her husband is considered a creep by many.
3. She called DJT supporters a basket of deplorables and irredeemables?
4. She lost the debates (subjective) but many thought Trump looked better.
5. Many in her party preferred Sanders over her.
6. Comey publicly reopened the investigation into her private server.
7. Huma's husband was a creep.
8. She did not campaign in Michigan.
9. She was laissez faire on the Syrian migration to the US.
10. Her Foundation was at best questionable.

Come on man. Blaming Russia for the loss is just sour grapes.

Please explain again what specifically Russia did to help Trump take votes from Clinton? Let's say they did collude and Putin says I want you to win and Trump says, thanks. What then? Did Russia pay voters? Did they change votes via cyber terror? What did they specifically do?

They specifically used a mis/dis information campaign against the American people in targeted states. Cambridge Analytics is at the heart of it and is being investigated not only by us, but by England in the Brexit campaign. If you remember, the raid on Cambridge is one of the first pieces of the whole puzzle to be put together.


It will all be spelled out when Mueller's final report comes down. It will be interesting to see if there was any attempted influence on the "Trumplandia" FBI office in NY, where the forced re-opening of the non-story Hillary emails happened 11 days before the election.

Dumb it down for me since you and BL think I am dumb.

I am Mike Smith and I live in Harrisburg, PA. I am undecided. What did Russia just do to make me vote for Trump over Clinton? Did they bribe me? Did they change my vote in the machine when I circled HRC it moved to DJT? The negative info. on HRC was already there. So now Putin says to Trump, I will help you win. Trump says. Thanks. They COLLUDE!!!!

Now what happens? I mean if you tell me that Putin changed votes and Trump knew about it he should be in jail. If you tell me Putin bribed swing voters in swing states and Trump knew, he should be in jail. But I just don't follow the granular logic of what Russia actually did to cause HRC to lose votes and for DJT to win votes?

Do you at least see where I am coming from here?

Different example. You’re Sarah Smith. You live in Michigan. You were a die-hard Bernie supporter but plan to vote for Clinton in the general. Then the DNC emails are leaked and you get ****** because you think the DNC wasn’t fair to Bernie. So you stay home. Trump wins Michigan.

Exactly.

So releasing the truth hurt HRC? LOL. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!?!?!

I hope you're home from vacation, if not, I'd demand a re-do.

When I'm in Punta Cana next week, there will be zero posts here for 10 days.

Posted by The Taint on 7/16/2018 1:48:00 PM (view original):
The bigger issue is that the DNC colluded within itself and not that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia?


Wow. I think that says it all about partisanship in America.

How does colluding with Russia influence votes? Collusion within the DNC causes super delegates to vote a certain way. No?

Why aren't you answering my specific questions??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

What false information, bribery, cyber terror could Russia do to cause DJT to win states over HRC??!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I am not being argumentative I really want to understand this.

Posted by The Taint on 7/16/2018 1:49:00 PM (view original):
I hope you're home from vacation, if not, I'd demand a re-do.

When I'm in Punta Cana next week, there will be zero posts here for 10 days.

I am back!! :)