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7/18/2018 1:08 PM
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Your daughter plays LAX? Maybe you don’t have to worry about her dating dudes.
LAX is not softball. Nice try though. I am sure she ll date as many dudes as your sons....
I have one of each. They can date whoever they want. Liberal. Conservative. Male. Female. I don’t care, as long as they treat each other well.
But you don't know about girls LAX? Such an ignorant comment. Check out a game or two and then opine. Tomboys don't play LAX. Not sure why. They stick to softball which is played during the same season.

Again my kids are not dating leftists or Yankees fans. I would begrudgingly tolerate a Lakers fan.
My kids can date whoever they want, as long is they treat each other respectfully and it makes them happy. I may not approve of everyone my kids date, but that is my problem, not theirs.
7/18/2018 1:21 PM
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Who knows what Trump and Putin's conversation was like. Putin, like Little Rocket Man, wants an audience, legitimacy, the means to make propaganda. So maybe Donald says I make nice for you in front of the cameras, in exchange for a toning down in Syria, or perhaps help on the world's stage to get NK to straighten up and fly right. The media will eat me alive, but they hate me anyway. I take the heat, so what? Perhaps better than escalating tensions between Washington and Moscow. Trump knows Putin is gonna work in the shadows, he's KGB. Why fan the flames? Perhaps Donald cut a better deal than we know...then again, perhaps he's a patsy...
LOL...you really think Donald could cut a killer deal and keep it quiet? Hell no.
Compared to the guy he replaced, yes...like I said, who knows? Surely he didn't go into that meeting to come out embarrassed. But go ahead, underestimate him. Again...
I deal with people I don’t necessarily like frequently as part of my job but in negotiations you sometimes have to eat it for the greater good.

I agree with Doc. No reason to anger Russia. We need all the allies we can get when dealing with Radical Islam.
If you think Putin is less of a threat than radical Islam you are the biggest moron on this forum. This may have been the dumbest thing you have ever said on this thread and that's saying something.
I 100% think so. When has Putin attacked us? Radical Islam caused 9/11, deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq. To me that is the biggest threat. And like bad luck you would never say that to my face, you are a coward. In terms of espionage and such, China is a bigger threat than Russia as well.

Thank you for making my point yet again that my 14 year old is smarter than you.
He meddled with our election?

Radical islam isn't equal to terrorism. Terrorists are one small branch on the radical islam tree. And those wars in Iraq and Afghanistan went real well didn't they? You cannot fight an idea.

Putin's Russia is directly at odds with American interests. He is trying to tear our country down. Additionally, he has a very corrupt government where rivals get killed.

How would you fight radical islam?
What was that virgin? Sorry, I missed that.

You are a coward, who is all for football players kneeling during the anthem and you argued that the US and the USSR were NOT allies in WWII. You are a moron. Radical Islam wants to wipe the US off the face of the Earth as do its people. You think Putin and the Russian people want to wipe the US off the face of the Earth? Dummy.

Radical Islam is 100x the bigger threat.

How would I fight it? I would firstly admit it exists. Something you refuse to do. You say small branch. If it is 1% and we know it is a lot more than that so it is 16 million terrorists. In the world right now there are about 16 million Jews in TOTAL.
More non-sequiturs. Radical Islam is not the bigger threat, lol.

You still think that terrorism and radical islam are the same thing. it isn't. More than 1% of Islamists are radical. But even Ben Shapiro says that less than 1% are terrorists.

But OK. Admit it exists. Radical Islam exists. You are the US president (shudder). What now.
No he doesn’t and if you re radical you re one step from killing and I d rather be proactive than reactive
Yes. He does. When you were proving your point about this in a very early discussion of ours you showed me a video where he said that very thing.

OK so your plan is to kill every single radical Islamist. Let's assume that you know exactly who is radical. So how do you achieve this? Do you go to war with every country that has a radical in it? How do we go about removing radical Islam.
Re watch the video. That is not what he says.
Give me a link back to the video in question.

From what I recall Shapiro is listing off the numbers of radicals in each country and then he says something along the lines of 'Now, radical islam is not the same thing as terrorism and if you argue otherwise you are either ignorant or uniformed.'

Just think logically about this. There are millions of radical Islamists. Let's say 16 million, like you said. 1% of 16 million is 160,000. Are there 160,000 terrorists in the world? Is there 160,000 terrorist acts every year? There were 1000 terrorist attacks last year. How does this logic make any sense?
Find it yourself. Geez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

This video at the 1:17 mark.

Radical beliefs are a lot broader than terrorists and anybody who argues otherwise is being naive or foolish or disingenuous. But, terrorists draw their moral and religious support from those who are not terrorists themselves.

You cannot use the terms 'radical Islam' and 'terrorism' interchangeably. Even Ben Shapiro agrees with that statement. And we all know that his word is the bible.

7/18/2018 1:32 PM
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I’m not trolling either. I’m serious. Person A goes into stall 1 to ****. Person B goes into stall 2 to ****. What difference does it make what their sexes are?
You didn’t answer. Seriously, what’s the issue with this?
The issue is my 14 year old walks in and before she hits the stall there is a naked person with their ***** sticking out combing their hair.

Again why can a person change their gender but not their age? Are you going to answer or just ignore because it does not fit your argument?
I agree with you basic premise, cccp. I don't want someone with a ***** in the same locker room/bathroom as my daughter, but I have never seen anyone combing their hair in the nude in a bathroom. Have you?
7/18/2018 1:34 PM

I didn't vote for Trump in the primary. But I did vote for him November of 2016 because the alternative choice was unthinkable for me. And I still don't think Trump's temperament is best for all situations.

But he is a better President than I thought he would ever be. Why?

Because he Fights.

Unlike all the recent past Republican leaders Bush, McCain, Romney (who let Candy Crowley kick his butt), he fights the Democratic Party's power in the media. He doesn't just rollover and accept the media's narrative.

He fights and stands up for Conservative principles. Finally, somebody who fights.

I'm more supportive of him now than ever before, and the more the Left and media squeals about todays current make believe outrage, the more I support him.

He is going to win easily in 2020.

7/18/2018 1:36 PM
TY Tangy. Did you read that link? I applaud everyone's concern for our Country/union. All sides.
It is appropriate.
It is also appropriate (in today's mediaworld) to pay heed to what the neighbor you disagree with is SAYING.
We must learn to understand the validity of others viewpoint(s).
I'm not an idealogue BUT, I am socially a classic liberal. (Fiscally I'm on the right!)
I want freedom. I MUST give you freedom.

And that applies to people or lifestyles I might not agree with.
I just can't abide any American who claims it's OK to use Law to thrust their views on others.
This Country was not agreed to and ratified without the Bill of Rights. (The 1st 10 Amendments)
That's why it took from 1776 to 1787 (?) for the Constitution to be ratified (partly).

The protection of the MINORITY is paramount to our Republic. It is that principle that distinguishes us from a pure democracy. WE are not a democracy. The majority viewpoint (WHATEVER it is at any specific time) does/can NOT override the minority's freedom to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness----as THEY see it, not ME or You.
Within our Laws, of course. And our understanding of reality, I suppose.
The Law (and the Constitution) has to be flexible enough to respond to changing realities----as WE figure them out. (The Globe used to be flat, right?)
That's why I believe the Constitution must be"alive"---------it can't be limited to just the words used (on paper, at that moment) but, rather, to their precise intent (without undue inference, or manipulation!). The Law needs to breathe but NOT be used by small minds for political (or other) manipulation.
An example is that the Law should NOT be used to manipulate lawful behavior, yet we've allowed that, and it's been done to us! for decades--Longer, really)

We must wake up and demand real leadership and personal freedom.......... and accept the personal responsibility that comes along with Freedom.
AND truly give it our our neighbor.............no matter how deplorable or despicable you think they are!
End of sermon.
Gawd, we need to get our Simball back.............. lol
7/18/2018 1:45 PM (edited)
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"It's coming!! and sooner than you think!"

Same thing we've been hearing for the last 18 months.

All the accusations, lies and BS, back-and-forth, do nobody, and certainly not this Country any good. Why can't everyone just let the system do it's job as best it can, and THEN react? I still go back to my original claim, made years and years ago, that this two-Party system will continue to separate and drag down this Country until it's people (us) get smart enough to support a 3rd Party.
I agree with you all3. Both sides are really not letting this play out. Some on the left is arguing that Trump should already be impeached and that Mueller is about to release his report, and the right says that Mueller has nothing (as if they know that) and that his investigation should be shut down.

What really worries me is that when Mueller releases his report, and if it looks bad for Trump, the right will already have worked up the narrative that Mueller's word means jack. What happens then? I can already see moy, CCCP, you, Doug, kz trying to deflect and backpedal...
Why do you care what we think? I don't care what you think.
7/18/2018 1:44 PM
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I’m not trolling either. I’m serious. Person A goes into stall 1 to ****. Person B goes into stall 2 to ****. What difference does it make what their sexes are?
You didn’t answer. Seriously, what’s the issue with this?
The issue is my 14 year old walks in and before she hits the stall there is a naked person with their ***** sticking out combing their hair.

Again why can a person change their gender but not their age? Are you going to answer or just ignore because it does not fit your argument?
I agree with you basic premise, cccp. I don't want someone with a ***** in the same locker room/bathroom as my daughter, but I have never seen anyone combing their hair in the nude in a bathroom. Have you?
Not combing hair but I've seen em in the shower as the showers are not individual and I've seen em drying off afterward.
7/18/2018 1:45 PM
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I just can't bring myself to read the last few pages of this lunacy. Did b_l ever even attempt to answer:
1) If a person can "relate" to a different gender on different days, why can't they "relate" to a different age?
2) If they can relate to a different gender, why can't they relate to a different species? (Are either of these "crazier" now than homosexuality and transgender where a few decades ago?)
3) Why shouldn't a person having a "relation" day use the restroom their body parts dictate and feel a bit uncomfortable themselves instead of causing others discomfort?
If so, or if he ever does (both very, very, very unlikely), would somebody please let me know. Maybe he'll take a World-wide poll first, since we know he loves his polls and believes they are never wrong. I'd be LMAO at this idiot if it wasn't both so infuriating and yet so sad that people actually think like him.
#1) BL does not answer questions that do not promote his agenda. He should be in politics.
#2) They can but it does not fit his narrative so he does not answer.
#3) Because that is how Leftists think.
That is not how all leftist think. I know you consider me a leftist and you know I agree with you on this issue. That's part of the problem with the divide in the country. People will think, oh you're a conservative or a liberal. I disagree with everything you believe. That's not the case. I know there are different subjects I agree with cccp. strikeout and others most would probably consider conservatives here and other subjects I disagree with tangplay, BL, laamiebob and the Taint on here (except maybe moy...think I may disagree with everything he says). If we are willing to accept that we all have different beliefs and opinions and some we may agree with and some we won't agree with, we'd get a long better.
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Who knows what Trump and Putin's conversation was like. Putin, like Little Rocket Man, wants an audience, legitimacy, the means to make propaganda. So maybe Donald says I make nice for you in front of the cameras, in exchange for a toning down in Syria, or perhaps help on the world's stage to get NK to straighten up and fly right. The media will eat me alive, but they hate me anyway. I take the heat, so what? Perhaps better than escalating tensions between Washington and Moscow. Trump knows Putin is gonna work in the shadows, he's KGB. Why fan the flames? Perhaps Donald cut a better deal than we know...then again, perhaps he's a patsy...
LOL...you really think Donald could cut a killer deal and keep it quiet? Hell no.
Compared to the guy he replaced, yes...like I said, who knows? Surely he didn't go into that meeting to come out embarrassed. But go ahead, underestimate him. Again...
I deal with people I don’t necessarily like frequently as part of my job but in negotiations you sometimes have to eat it for the greater good.

I agree with Doc. No reason to anger Russia. We need all the allies we can get when dealing with Radical Islam.
If you think Putin is less of a threat than radical Islam you are the biggest moron on this forum. This may have been the dumbest thing you have ever said on this thread and that's saying something.
I 100% think so. When has Putin attacked us? Radical Islam caused 9/11, deaths in Afghanistan and Iraq. To me that is the biggest threat. And like bad luck you would never say that to my face, you are a coward. In terms of espionage and such, China is a bigger threat than Russia as well.

Thank you for making my point yet again that my 14 year old is smarter than you.
He meddled with our election?

Radical islam isn't equal to terrorism. Terrorists are one small branch on the radical islam tree. And those wars in Iraq and Afghanistan went real well didn't they? You cannot fight an idea.

Putin's Russia is directly at odds with American interests. He is trying to tear our country down. Additionally, he has a very corrupt government where rivals get killed.

How would you fight radical islam?
What was that virgin? Sorry, I missed that.

You are a coward, who is all for football players kneeling during the anthem and you argued that the US and the USSR were NOT allies in WWII. You are a moron. Radical Islam wants to wipe the US off the face of the Earth as do its people. You think Putin and the Russian people want to wipe the US off the face of the Earth? Dummy.

Radical Islam is 100x the bigger threat.

How would I fight it? I would firstly admit it exists. Something you refuse to do. You say small branch. If it is 1% and we know it is a lot more than that so it is 16 million terrorists. In the world right now there are about 16 million Jews in TOTAL.
More non-sequiturs. Radical Islam is not the bigger threat, lol.

You still think that terrorism and radical islam are the same thing. it isn't. More than 1% of Islamists are radical. But even Ben Shapiro says that less than 1% are terrorists.

But OK. Admit it exists. Radical Islam exists. You are the US president (shudder). What now.
No he doesn’t and if you re radical you re one step from killing and I d rather be proactive than reactive
Yes. He does. When you were proving your point about this in a very early discussion of ours you showed me a video where he said that very thing.

OK so your plan is to kill every single radical Islamist. Let's assume that you know exactly who is radical. So how do you achieve this? Do you go to war with every country that has a radical in it? How do we go about removing radical Islam.
Re watch the video. That is not what he says.
Give me a link back to the video in question.

From what I recall Shapiro is listing off the numbers of radicals in each country and then he says something along the lines of 'Now, radical islam is not the same thing as terrorism and if you argue otherwise you are either ignorant or uniformed.'

Just think logically about this. There are millions of radical Islamists. Let's say 16 million, like you said. 1% of 16 million is 160,000. Are there 160,000 terrorists in the world? Is there 160,000 terrorist acts every year? There were 1000 terrorist attacks last year. How does this logic make any sense?
Find it yourself. Geez.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg

This video at the 1:17 mark.

Radical beliefs are a lot broader than terrorists and anybody who argues otherwise is being naive or foolish or disingenuous. But, terrorists draw their moral and religious support from those who are not terrorists themselves.

You cannot use the terms 'radical Islam' and 'terrorism' interchangeably. Even Ben Shapiro agrees with that statement. And we all know that his word is the bible.

That is not what he is saying. To me in MY OPINION there is a thin line between a radical and a terrorist. I'd rather be proactive and get rid of the radical before they make a final step and become a terrorist.
7/18/2018 1:46 PM
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I did answer. You didn't like my answer.

I'll answer again. It's inappropriate and opens doors to harassment and abuse. I feel like you are ignoring common sense to fight a political cause.
Common sense tells me that people tend not to get in other people’s in-stall bathroom business. Whether or not one person in a stall has a dick doesn’t seem to matter.
Your problem is utterly dismissing my concerns. That makes you an a hole. I don’t feel comfortable with my 12 and 14 year old girls sharing a locker room with a person who was born a male and still has male parts.

The fact that you laugh at that is interesting. I also told you my girls would not feel comfortable with such a situation. You dismissed that too.

Fine. What Planet Fitness must do is disclose in their membership agreement that people with penises may use the W locker room. See how many members they have left....

Allow Capitalism to decide.

But again that’s not my primary issue. My main issue is that Leftists dismiss other people’s opinions and label them as racists, bigots, sexist, etc.

Lefitsts are illogical. Bad luck is illogical. I truly hope Trump wins again.
No can do anything about your concerns. We can’t change laws every time an individual feels uncomfortable about something. If you can’t handle the fact that a transgender woman might be in the bathroom at the same time as your daughter, don’t let your daughter go to the bathroom in public. Or pick a restroom that is a one person at a time.

you never answered my question. why is the man who identifies as a woman's comfort more important than the comfort of the women he makes feel uncomfortable by being in the women's locker room?
7/18/2018 1:47 PM
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I’m not trolling either. I’m serious. Person A goes into stall 1 to ****. Person B goes into stall 2 to ****. What difference does it make what their sexes are?
You didn’t answer. Seriously, what’s the issue with this?
The issue is my 14 year old walks in and before she hits the stall there is a naked person with their ***** sticking out combing their hair.

Again why can a person change their gender but not their age? Are you going to answer or just ignore because it does not fit your argument?
I agree with you basic premise, cccp. I don't want someone with a ***** in the same locker room/bathroom as my daughter, but I have never seen anyone combing their hair in the nude in a bathroom. Have you?
I have. Enjoyed every moment of it, every time. Of course my wife doesn't have a dick................
7/18/2018 1:48 PM
Posted by skinndogg on 7/18/2018 1:37:00 PM (view original):

I didn't vote for Trump in the primary. But I did vote for him November of 2016 because the alternative choice was unthinkable for me. And I still don't think Trump's temperament is best for all situations.

But he is a better President than I thought he would ever be. Why?

Because he Fights.

Unlike all the recent past Republican leaders Bush, McCain, Romney (who let Candy Crowley kick his butt), he fights the Democratic Party's power in the media. He doesn't just rollover and accept the media's narrative.

He fights and stands up for Conservative principles. Finally, somebody who fights.

I'm more supportive of him now than ever before, and the more the Left and media squeals about todays current make believe outrage, the more I support him.

He is going to win easily in 2020.

LOL. Fights???

LMFAO.

Fights by endless tweeting Not me, no collusion, ain't I great? He's a jackass.

YOU are (quite obviously) They!
7/18/2018 1:50 PM
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The term senior citizen is, though. Same with young adult, middle aged, etc. Even “adult/child” differs depending on the context.
There are many articles that show that age and race are social constructs. Sorry. You cannot pick and choose what is and is not a social construct.

I don't even care that much because I won't change your mind and you will not change mine. What matters to me is that you acknowledge this EXACT fact. The country is divided because of such debates. We cannot even agree what is a man and what is a woman.

No, I’m pretty sure I can change your mind.
I am pretty sure in an MMA match you would submit in less than one minute to me. Opinions vary.
who the hell cares?
7/18/2018 1:51 PM
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