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Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 4:50:00 PM (view original):
There is evidence. Such as her server, Clinton Cash, etc.

Obviously the FBI agreed as they investigated her. Trump is certainly no angel. Is he a criminal? We ll find out shortly.

As I said she was never convicted. Was Trump convicted?

Difference between her and Trump is that she lost. History rarely looks at losers fondly.

Clinton Cash was a book. It should be on the fiction shelves.

Says you. Many disagree. Right?

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/25/2018 4:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 4:50:00 PM (view original):
There is evidence. Such as her server, Clinton Cash, etc.

Obviously the FBI agreed as they investigated her. Trump is certainly no angel. Is he a criminal? We ll find out shortly.

As I said she was never convicted. Was Trump convicted?

Difference between her and Trump is that she lost. History rarely looks at losers fondly.

Clinton Cash was a book. It should be on the fiction shelves.

Says you. Many disagree. Right?

I don’t think anyone disagrees that it is a book.

Clever troll. I think we all agree on that.

Clinton cash was written by a Breitbart senior editor. Why would you take it seriously?

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Posted by The Taint on 7/25/2018 9:38:00 AM (view original):
Thats all you got righty????

i suppose your boys Hannity and Tucker are true journalists?

I am not a righty. I am an independent. I am a Ben Shapiro guy.

Ben Shapiro is as much an independent as I am. He's a Republican.

I could just as easily be a Sam Harris guy. If he ran, I may change my stance on voting Blue. He is as liberal as you.

Good for him. So? I would have voted Kasich in 2016. Does that make me an independent?

Not you're a socialist. You're just logical. HRC was flawed, a criminal and ultra arrogant. I am guessing if it were Biden or Kasich, you'd be for Biden. Your views are very far from mine. I am a moderate, you're a socialist.

Fact that you won't agree that Ocasio - Cortez is a socialist is mind boggling.

this is just my opinion, but Trump is also flawed, a criminal and ultra arrogant.

Why would I take you seriously when you just decided to go all Naked Gun in this discussion? You are a troll. All3 was right. So I will treat you as one.

There are three simple facts why Trump won and why his base is energized. You re a smart guy yet you cling on to Russia, collusion, ignorance of voters, racism. When it is none of these things.

When you decide you want to converse intelligently let me know and we will.

Repeal the 2nd Amendment

I could be wrong, but I don't think I've ever heard any politician say they wanted to repeal the 2nd ammendment. I've heard them say they wanted stronger gun control regulations in place, but that is far from repealing the 2nd amendment. The 2nd amendment will never be repealed, but times are different from when the amendment was written, and the amendment should change accordingly.

Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 5:41:00 PM (view original):
Why would I take you seriously when you just decided to go all Naked Gun in this discussion? You are a troll. All3 was right. So I will treat you as one.

There are three simple facts why Trump won and why his base is energized. You re a smart guy yet you cling on to Russia, collusion, ignorance of voters, racism. When it is none of these things.

When you decide you want to converse intelligently let me know and we will.

So Trump won and that means we can’t be concerned about his criminal behavior?

Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):
Eh? No I proved that people feel safer in the US? Crime is not the only stat and you have to look forward not backwards. Europe has massive issues from unrealistic healthcare and pension plans, Islam, Brexit, etc.

Look at unemployment in Europe compared to the US. Look at Brexit, it was primarily due to massive immigration into GB.

I have no idea about what Clinton would or would not have done. She is a liar. Who knows. Spend more money to vet or spend more money to improve infrastructure and help fellow Americans? To me its not vet more immigrants. You cannot deal with Iran and be pro Israel. Iran is the #1 funding source of Hamas and Hezbollah.

We need to talk about something else.

DJT in his odd way is trying to make Russia see it that way. Not sure how or if he will be successful. You have zero background in finance but you want to spend money freely. I suggest you take a class or two and see how it works.

Um, you can't prove how other people feel. Maybe you can prove how YOU feel, but not other people. Just because you feel that way, doesn't mean everyone else does.

Yes, Clinton is a liar. All politicians are liars. It comes with the territory. Trump is a liar. If you don't agree that Trump is a liar, you haven't been paying attention, and I'm not sure I can take anything you say seriously.

Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 3:11:00 PM (view original):
Eh? No I proved that people feel safer in the US? Crime is not the only stat and you have to look forward not backwards. Europe has massive issues from unrealistic healthcare and pension plans, Islam, Brexit, etc.

Look at unemployment in Europe compared to the US. Look at Brexit, it was primarily due to massive immigration into GB.

I have no idea about what Clinton would or would not have done. She is a liar. Who knows. Spend more money to vet or spend more money to improve infrastructure and help fellow Americans? To me its not vet more immigrants. You cannot deal with Iran and be pro Israel. Iran is the #1 funding source of Hamas and Hezbollah.

We need to talk about something else.

DJT in his odd way is trying to make Russia see it that way. Not sure how or if he will be successful. You have zero background in finance but you want to spend money freely. I suggest you take a class or two and see how it works.

Eh? No I proved that people feel safer in the US?

Who cares? I want to be safer, not feel safer.

Crime is not the only stat

You mentioned earlier that Europe has a higher crime rate than the USA.

Europe has massive issues from unrealistic healthcare and pension plans, Islam, Brexit, etc.

Unrealistic healthcare plans? European countries have some of the best healthcare in the world, most of which are paid for by the government, I might add. Islam existing isn't a problem.

Look at unemployment in Europe compared to the US.

While it's true that the EU has more unemployment than the US, that number is decreasing quicker than in the US. Additionally, countries like Germany, Norway, Denmark, and Poland have similar rates to the US.

Look at Brexit, it was primarily due to massive immigration into GB.

Explain.

Spend more money to vet or spend more money to improve infrastructure and help fellow Americans?

You can do both? Also, if immigration is a huge priority to you, it would make more sense to focus on vetting as that seems to be the best solution. It's like people who hate abortion disliking birth control as well. Not logical.

You cannot deal with Iran and be pro Israel. Iran is the #1 funding source of Hamas and Hezbollah.

I disagree. The Iran deal was pro-USA and anti Iran. Plenty of Saudi Arabians hate Israel. While Obama did some shady things if true, namely stopping a program to deal with the Hamas and Hezbollah stuff (which I would 100% support bringing back), I don't think that makes him anti Israel.

DJT in his odd way is trying to make Russia see it that way.

What way?

You have zero background in finance but you want to spend money freely. I suggest you take a class or two and see how it works.

What does 'spend freely' mean to you? Is 800 billion on military not spending freely?

Posted by bad_luck on 7/25/2018 5:47:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 5:41:00 PM (view original):
Why would I take you seriously when you just decided to go all Naked Gun in this discussion? You are a troll. All3 was right. So I will treat you as one.

There are three simple facts why Trump won and why his base is energized. You re a smart guy yet you cling on to Russia, collusion, ignorance of voters, racism. When it is none of these things.

When you decide you want to converse intelligently let me know and we will.

So Trump won and that means we can’t be concerned about his criminal behavior?

Nope vice versa actually. We need to worry more. Don’t care about HRC. If she won. I d Care more.

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Posted by The Taint on 7/25/2018 9:38:00 AM (view original):
Thats all you got righty????

i suppose your boys Hannity and Tucker are true journalists?

I am not a righty. I am an independent. I am a Ben Shapiro guy.

Ben Shapiro is as much an independent as I am. He's a Republican.

I could just as easily be a Sam Harris guy. If he ran, I may change my stance on voting Blue. He is as liberal as you.

Good for him. So? I would have voted Kasich in 2016. Does that make me an independent?

Not you're a socialist. You're just logical. HRC was flawed, a criminal and ultra arrogant. I am guessing if it were Biden or Kasich, you'd be for Biden. Your views are very far from mine. I am a moderate, you're a socialist.

Fact that you won't agree that Ocasio - Cortez is a socialist is mind boggling.

I am not a socialist. You gotta research the difference between Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists. They are two very different terms. I am a Social Democrat. I support capitalism with lots of social programs like education and healthcare prioritized. Democratic Socialists are socialist. Cortez is closer to Dem Soc than I am, and may be impartial to them, but in practice, if you look at her actual opinions and policies, she is a Soc Dem. Although yes she is much closer to the line than I am.

BTW, as much as I dislike Hillary, she isn't a criminal. She did some super shady stuff, and it was definitely immoral, but nothing has been proven showing that she is a criminal. Sorry.

And yes, I would take Biden over Kasich.

I believe she is a criminal similar to how OJ is a criminal. You don't but she doesn't get your vote so you do not like her. OC is the same as Sanders who is a Socialist. Rest is semantics. As I said we'll never see eye to eye.

Wait, what? OJ is a criminal because he was convicted of killing someone. Pretty sure Hillary hasn't killed anyone, and has never been convicted of such.

Sanders isn't a socialist either. In practice he is a Soc Dem. If you knew actual socialists (which I do) you would know that Sanders and Cortez are regarded as too far right for them. And they hate mainstream Dems. Sanders is far more Soc Dem than Dem Soc.

OMG enough with the definitions.

This is from Sanders himself:

"Do they think I’m afraid of the word? I’m not afraid of the word," he said in an interview with The Nation published in July. "?When I ran for the Senate the first time, I ran against the wealthiest guy in the state of Vermont. He spent a lot on advertising — very ugly stuff. He kept attacking me as a liberal. He didn’t use the word ‘socialist’ at all, because everybody in the state knows that I am that."

I don't care what he calls himself. He isn't a true socialist. In practice he is a Soc Dem. Most Soc Dems agree with me on that. This is an area where you clearly are uniformed.

OK so you know better what he is than he does. Thanks for sharing.

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Posted by The Taint on 7/25/2018 9:38:00 AM (view original):
Thats all you got righty????

i suppose your boys Hannity and Tucker are true journalists?

I am not a righty. I am an independent. I am a Ben Shapiro guy.

Ben Shapiro is as much an independent as I am. He's a Republican.

I could just as easily be a Sam Harris guy. If he ran, I may change my stance on voting Blue. He is as liberal as you.

Good for him. So? I would have voted Kasich in 2016. Does that make me an independent?

Not you're a socialist. You're just logical. HRC was flawed, a criminal and ultra arrogant. I am guessing if it were Biden or Kasich, you'd be for Biden. Your views are very far from mine. I am a moderate, you're a socialist.

Fact that you won't agree that Ocasio - Cortez is a socialist is mind boggling.

I am not a socialist. You gotta research the difference between Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists. They are two very different terms. I am a Social Democrat. I support capitalism with lots of social programs like education and healthcare prioritized. Democratic Socialists are socialist. Cortez is closer to Dem Soc than I am, and may be impartial to them, but in practice, if you look at her actual opinions and policies, she is a Soc Dem. Although yes she is much closer to the line than I am.

BTW, as much as I dislike Hillary, she isn't a criminal. She did some super shady stuff, and it was definitely immoral, but nothing has been proven showing that she is a criminal. Sorry.

And yes, I would take Biden over Kasich.

I believe she is a criminal similar to how OJ is a criminal. You don't but she doesn't get your vote so you do not like her. OC is the same as Sanders who is a Socialist. Rest is semantics. As I said we'll never see eye to eye.

Wait, what? OJ is a criminal because he was convicted of killing someone. Pretty sure Hillary hasn't killed anyone, and has never been convicted of such.

Sanders isn't a socialist either. In practice he is a Soc Dem. If you knew actual socialists (which I do) you would know that Sanders and Cortez are regarded as too far right for them. And they hate mainstream Dems. Sanders is far more Soc Dem than Dem Soc.

HRC was investigated by the FBI. She was not a convicted criminal only because of who she is.


Senator Bernie Sanders made it a useful attack against her in early 2016, suggesting that by speaking to banks like Goldman Sachs, she was compromised. There have been calls for Clinton to release the transcripts of her speeches, which she has declined to do, saying if every other candidate does, she will too. For the Clintons, who left the White House up to their ears in legal debt, lucrative speeches—mostly by the former president—proved to be an effective way of rebuilding wealth. They have also been an effective magnet for prying questions. Where did Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton speak? How did they decide how much to charge? What did they say? How did they decide which speeches would be given on behalf of the Clinton Foundation, with fees going to the charity, and which would be treated as personal income? Are there cases of conflicts of interest or quid pro quos—for example, speaking gigs for Bill Clinton on behalf of clients who had business before the State Department?



Coincidence that the Clinton Foundation closed shortly after the election?


She is a criminal IMO. But it was never proven. Still she was damaged enough for persons like you and Taint to vote red. That was my point.

Being investigated by the FBI doesn't make you a criminal. BTW, what were the results of that investigation?

Yes, the Clinton Foundation is shady, but nothing illegal has been found.

You can't just say she is a criminal. She isn't. It has been looked into and nothing has been found. Yes, she is obviously morally compromised. Most politicians are. Your guy (Trump) is too.

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Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 4:36:00 PM (view original):
Christ. You don’t pay attention. I said I think she is but she was never convicted but she had enough mud on her that it lost her votes. For example both Tang and Taint said they would have voted for Kasich over her.

I am sure she would have advocated for Bill to use the W locker room.

You think she is a criminal based on zero evidence.

Do you also think Trump is a criminal?

There’s actual evidence that he is.

LMAO at the zero evidence. Does the FBI investigate those on whom they have zero evidence?

She was cleared by the FBI, right?

IdK was she? Petey changed the narrative on that investigation it seems.

She was. And this was multiple different ones, even before Strzok, who really did nothing important.