Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 4:36:00 PM (view original):
Christ. You don’t pay attention. I said I think she is but she was never convicted but she had enough mud on her that it lost her votes. For example both Tang and Taint said they would have voted for Kasich over her.

I am sure she would have advocated for Bill to use the W locker room.

C'mon Man! This is nuts and divisive. HRC could have NEVER done that.......... unless Bill declared himself female. That ain't happenin'.......... HE'S way to much Dog to ever declare himself *****!

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Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 4:36:00 PM (view original):
Christ. You don’t pay attention. I said I think she is but she was never convicted but she had enough mud on her that it lost her votes. For example both Tang and Taint said they would have voted for Kasich over her.

I am sure she would have advocated for Bill to use the W locker room.

C'mon Man! This is nuts and divisive. HRC could have NEVER done that.......... unless Bill declared himself female. That ain't happenin'.......... HE'S way to much Dog to ever declare himself *****!

Bill is her biatch.

Posted by bad_luck on 7/26/2018 11:38:00 AM (view original):

Posted by skinndogg on 7/26/2018 11:22:00 AM (view original):
GDP for the 2nd quarter is coming out tomorrow. Most "experts" are predicting 3-4% or more growth.

Can we all just agree that this would never happen with the high taxing, and hyper-regulating Democratic Party in charge? They handcuffed the economy for 8 years, now we can see the difference when you let the reigns of the free market loose.

Please vote Republican in November. We do not want the economy to go back to the Democratic Party's malaise.

You know that Obama had quarters with 4% growth (or higher, almost 6% in Q3 2014) 6 times, right???

And he NEVER had a yearly GDP over 3%.

And his 8 year GDP was less than 2%. Don't you remember them telling us it was the new normal? Not to have high expectations. It couldn't be done. They wanted us to accept the fact that the economy wasn't coming back. Those jobs were not coming back. What kind of pessimistic leadership was that?

Trump has proved them wrong.

You can tell who is a Democrat real easy. If something good happens for the United States, a Democrat is upset about it.

GDP doesn’t mean much if wages aren’t increasing.

Posted by skinndogg on 7/26/2018 11:56:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 7/26/2018 11:38:00 AM (view original):

Posted by skinndogg on 7/26/2018 11:22:00 AM (view original):
GDP for the 2nd quarter is coming out tomorrow. Most "experts" are predicting 3-4% or more growth.

Can we all just agree that this would never happen with the high taxing, and hyper-regulating Democratic Party in charge? They handcuffed the economy for 8 years, now we can see the difference when you let the reigns of the free market loose.

Please vote Republican in November. We do not want the economy to go back to the Democratic Party's malaise.

You know that Obama had quarters with 4% growth (or higher, almost 6% in Q3 2014) 6 times, right???

And he NEVER had a yearly GDP over 3%.

And his 8 year GDP was less than 2%. Don't you remember them telling us it was the new normal? Not to have high expectations. It couldn't be done. They wanted us to accept the fact that the economy wasn't coming back. Those jobs were not coming back. What kind of pessimistic leadership was that?

Trump has proved them wrong.

You can tell who is a Democrat real easy. If something good happens for the United States, a Democrat is upset about it.

Oh, I see. you moved the goalposts. Good job.

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Posted by The Taint on 7/26/2018 9:58:00 AM (view original):
Comrade,

Your lack of self-awareness borders on hysterical at times.

I get it man. I do. I am super self righteous. I am aware of that. But whatever I type here I say to your face 100%. I still would like to get your opinion on how this country comes together when the political views are so far apart now.

You know what might help? Having a president who isn’t already laying the groundwork to call the next two national elections rigged if the Dems pick up majorities or he loses re-election.

Because Trump is doing that.

What would help more is having fewer opinionated one sided A holes always dumping on the President and giving him zero credit for anything he does.

Nope.

Nothing random people say compares in any way to the tone set by the President. If he's up on stage (or on twitter) crying about a rigged election after a loss, we're ******.

You're buying into the cult of personality crap. If he loses, he loses. Christ people like you have wanted him impeached from day 1. HRC literally said that men told their women not to vote for HRC and the women listened to them. So in her mind the women did not have a mind of their own. She also called the Trump supporters deplorables and irredeemables. But you miss the point that the country became super divided under BHO. I am not saying it was his fault but the economy was in the toilet, there were racial tensions due to police shootings and there was fatigue from wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Trump won because many wanted an alternative and because the Dems ran a flawed candidate. Dems could not believe he won so they started screaming and crying and calling for collusion, racism, idiocy, etc. None of that is helpful.

Dems and GOP are Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar apart on:

• Taxes
• Immigration
• Military
• Supreme Court
• Gay marriage
• Abortion
• Environment
• Social Values
• Trade

This is not due to Trump. What Trump does well is he plays to those people and firmly takes a position that they agree with w/o regard of hurting the feelings of those opposed to it. This causes massive fighting. Look at you and me and I am not even a conservative. What you need to realize is that tens of millions agree with Trump's rhetoric and are finally expressing it because they feel empowered to do so. BTW - I think Trump is 100% wrong with his rhetoric but the stupid Dems don't know how to fight against it. You are case in point.

Jeesh Boris, MOST of this is spot on. Ignoring your bullet list of differences between the parties positions on those issues, (As that list is quite varied and some issues lend themselves to compromise and others are vastly harder to find compromise on), I believe that with regards to the political divide and complete disdain for the other side, it is too late! We're STUCK with it! Whose fault it is is unimportant. It started way before Obama by the way.

It began in the 70's and increased in the 80's, and exploded in the 90's and since. The Bush/Clinton rivalry was a part of it,
Dog Bill was hated by many. HRC even more so. "Uppity modern *****" was the attitude of millions. George "W" was despised and ridiculed by as many on the left. Then we elected a black man and put a "normal" black family in the W.H. Millions more with dangerous/racist views jumped in the fray.

Then along comes someone without shame, without Love of Country, without ethics, who is more than willing to encourage the "deplorables and racists" and fan that divide into a chasm of power......... and we have what we have.

We're stuck with it. It won't change until the truth comes out and one side (or the other) accepts that they were wrong!! Duped and conned in the case of the Trump apologists/defenders OR duped and conned by some gigantic "deep state" in the case of the left. I doubt either side has the intellect and honesty to admit to themselves their mistaken judgment.

I can't see you (for example) being humble enough and wise enough to accept how completely wrong you are about Trump when all the truth comes out and he's SHOWN to be the traitor and criminal many of us believe is true. You'll find SOME method to deflect and say but I only...........

In fairness, I doubt B-L could admit his mistake(s) of ideological belief either. (Taxing ANYBODY at a 100% rate is nuts bordering on madness)

I would gladly pay to referee any debate between you and Taint, though.................as long as a "representative" gets to place a bet for me........... I won't tell you who I'd bet on. Wouldn't want to shake your confidence........ lol.

Regulations are a good thing. Regulations are why we didn’t experience any crashes from 1940 to 1980. Then Reagan showed up: crash. Bush showed up: crash. Trump shows up; what do you think is going to happen once derivatives tank again?

Posted by cccp1014 on 7/26/2018 9:44:00 AM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 7/26/2018 12:55:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2018 8:17:00 PM (view original):
I was saying how she was a poor candidate to the point that both tang and Taint were going to vote red instead of her. It was a minor point and you jumped on it like she is your long lost lover.

Breitbart is just a news source that leans super right. Aka they are an opinion channel and publication.

IDGAF what they say. I have told bad luck 1000x and tang too but obviously they have dementia. I use my own naked eye test when formulating my opinions. And being self righteous I believe my opinions are correct. So if we continue you two love birds need to acknowledge this.

Just like my eye test says Jason Whitlock is a ******* retard and Ben Shapiro is a self-absorbed piece of **** who thinks he knows more than he does. I'd give big dollars to debate Shapiro on a plethora of subjects. Alas, I'm a plain dumbfuck who's never made any mountains out of any molehills. A plain dumbfuck that happened to enlist right as the Bush's declared their war(s) on Iraq. I'd give real money to debate most people here without any chance of looking anything up on Google, including Shaprio who's faced very few real world problems. I would crush some dumbass fools, including Shapiro. LOL.. I love how he prefaced his rant about net neutrality. "I don't know dick about net-neutrality but......."

Instead I'm stuck debating morons who think they know more about veterans affairs than an actual veteran. A ******* moron that thinks his two black friends speak for an entire race, a ******* moron who doesn't even realize he's living a life of white privilege. **** me. Stick a fork in me.

I'd give real money to debate you as well. On a plethora of subjects. And bad luck. Not tang. I don't debate babies.

I wouldn't pay a cent to debate any of you. What would be the point? No one would change their mind, and everyone would think they won the debate.

Posted by cccp1014 on 7/26/2018 9:43:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 7/26/2018 9:40:00 AM (view original):
You’d pay to debate me???

you get your *** kicked here for free all the time, why would you pay for it?

Do I? You'd never say that to my face so STFU, you sissy keyboard warrior. Opinions vary, those that agree with me like strikeout, all3 and Doug say I kick your *** all the time. You have what tang on your side? The dude you called an "idiot" multiple times. Other than that you have Taint. Math works in my favor it seems. Even wylie, a fellow liberal cannot stand you.

Difference between you and me is that I would say that stuff to your face, old man. You'd cower.

what happen to that civility you were talking about, dude? Funny, for someone who says we need to be civil, you call people names on here more than just about anyone.
Also, I am not a liberal, despite what you think.
And I never said I can't stand bad_luck. He's not one of my favorite posters on whatever this site is called now, but I don't know him well enough to not stand him.

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Posted by The Taint on 7/26/2018 9:58:00 AM (view original):
Comrade,

Your lack of self-awareness borders on hysterical at times.

I get it man. I do. I am super self righteous. I am aware of that. But whatever I type here I say to your face 100%. I still would like to get your opinion on how this country comes together when the political views are so far apart now.

You know what might help? Having a president who isn’t already laying the groundwork to call the next two national elections rigged if the Dems pick up majorities or he loses re-election.

Because Trump is doing that.

What would help more is having fewer opinionated one sided A holes always dumping on the President and giving him zero credit for anything he does.

Nope.

Nothing random people say compares in any way to the tone set by the President. If he's up on stage (or on twitter) crying about a rigged election after a loss, we're ******.

You're buying into the cult of personality crap. If he loses, he loses. Christ people like you have wanted him impeached from day 1. HRC literally said that men told their women not to vote for HRC and the women listened to them. So in her mind the women did not have a mind of their own. She also called the Trump supporters deplorables and irredeemables. But you miss the point that the country became super divided under BHO. I am not saying it was his fault but the economy was in the toilet, there were racial tensions due to police shootings and there was fatigue from wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Trump won because many wanted an alternative and because the Dems ran a flawed candidate. Dems could not believe he won so they started screaming and crying and calling for collusion, racism, idiocy, etc. None of that is helpful.

Dems and GOP are Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar apart on:

• Taxes
• Immigration
• Military
• Supreme Court
• Gay marriage
• Abortion
• Environment
• Social Values
• Trade

This is not due to Trump. What Trump does well is he plays to those people and firmly takes a position that they agree with w/o regard of hurting the feelings of those opposed to it. This causes massive fighting. Look at you and me and I am not even a conservative. What you need to realize is that tens of millions agree with Trump's rhetoric and are finally expressing it because they feel empowered to do so. BTW - I think Trump is 100% wrong with his rhetoric but the stupid Dems don't know how to fight against it. You are case in point.

I'm going to skip your first two paragraphs of retarded punditry because you're clueless and...well, stupid, but I'll bite on your list.

- Taxes - Not sure exactly what you mean here but according to Reuters, 76% of the country agrees that taxes should be higher on the wealthy.

- Immigration - again, your one word statements leave a lot of room for interpretation, but virtually no one supports open borders and almost everyone supports a secure border. Most people don't think expanding the wall will help secure the border.

- Military - Pretty sure most people support the military. Even people who are anti-war (a large majority of the country) think a military is necessary.

- Supreme Court - yeah, this too. Almost everyone thinks we should have a Supreme Court.

- Gay Marriage - Over 70% of the country supports gay marriage.

- Abortion - 80% of the country supports abortion in at least some circumstances.

- Environment - are you arguing that half the country doesn't like the environment?

- Social values - this is too vague to even talk about

- Trade - Virtually no one actually knows enough about trade to argue about it. Including the President. Trade is extremely complicated.


You want:
- Significantly lower taxes
- Less social safety net spending
- More military spending
- Less abortion
- Less immigration
- Less gay rights
- Less environmental protections

Don't pretend you aren't a conservative.

Posted by skinndogg on 7/26/2018 11:56:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 7/26/2018 11:38:00 AM (view original):

Posted by skinndogg on 7/26/2018 11:22:00 AM (view original):
GDP for the 2nd quarter is coming out tomorrow. Most "experts" are predicting 3-4% or more growth.

Can we all just agree that this would never happen with the high taxing, and hyper-regulating Democratic Party in charge? They handcuffed the economy for 8 years, now we can see the difference when you let the reigns of the free market loose.

Please vote Republican in November. We do not want the economy to go back to the Democratic Party's malaise.

You know that Obama had quarters with 4% growth (or higher, almost 6% in Q3 2014) 6 times, right???

And he NEVER had a yearly GDP over 3%.

And his 8 year GDP was less than 2%. Don't you remember them telling us it was the new normal? Not to have high expectations. It couldn't be done. They wanted us to accept the fact that the economy wasn't coming back. Those jobs were not coming back. What kind of pessimistic leadership was that?

Trump has proved them wrong.

You can tell who is a Democrat real easy. If something good happens for the United States, a Democrat is upset about it.

something good? You mean like the POTUS saying America was stupid and foolish in its dealings with Russia? Something like the POTUS talking about grabbing *****? Something like the POTUS making fun of a disabled person? Something like the POTUS lying constantly about almost everything?

I will give Trump some credit for the economy doing well, but it wasn't doing badly when he took over. I'd also like to see if the trend continues for a while.

Posted by bds9992 on 7/26/2018 12:11:00 PM (view original):
Regulations are a good thing. Regulations are why we didn’t experience any crashes from 1940 to 1980. Then Reagan showed up: crash. Bush showed up: crash. Trump shows up; what do you think is going to happen once derivatives tank again?

Nice! Yeah, I've never understood why many historically clueless Americans THINK the Republicans are better at managing the economy. History clearly proves otherwise. Your examples are accurate as is the crash of 1929......... ALL occurring under Rep. stewardship of the economy.

I think we've managed a Nationally balanced budget 1 time in my adult lifetime. That was under dog Clinton, and "W" immediately blew the economy sky high!
It took a near meltdown, a banking crisis, and Obama and the incoming Dem. admin. to "partner up" and lead the decisions to rescue our economy and save us from another 1929 (or worse). Now the big money party wants to do away with most "regulation" of the banking industry again! Brilliant idea. (sarcasm)

Definition of stupid. Poor and middle class voters voting Republican
It just doesn't get stupider than that!

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Posted by The Taint on 7/26/2018 9:58:00 AM (view original):
Comrade,

Your lack of self-awareness borders on hysterical at times.

I get it man. I do. I am super self righteous. I am aware of that. But whatever I type here I say to your face 100%. I still would like to get your opinion on how this country comes together when the political views are so far apart now.

You know what might help? Having a president who isn’t already laying the groundwork to call the next two national elections rigged if the Dems pick up majorities or he loses re-election.

Because Trump is doing that.

What would help more is having fewer opinionated one sided A holes always dumping on the President and giving him zero credit for anything he does.

Nope.

Nothing random people say compares in any way to the tone set by the President. If he's up on stage (or on twitter) crying about a rigged election after a loss, we're ******.

You're buying into the cult of personality crap. If he loses, he loses. Christ people like you have wanted him impeached from day 1. HRC literally said that men told their women not to vote for HRC and the women listened to them. So in her mind the women did not have a mind of their own. She also called the Trump supporters deplorables and irredeemables. But you miss the point that the country became super divided under BHO. I am not saying it was his fault but the economy was in the toilet, there were racial tensions due to police shootings and there was fatigue from wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Trump won because many wanted an alternative and because the Dems ran a flawed candidate. Dems could not believe he won so they started screaming and crying and calling for collusion, racism, idiocy, etc. None of that is helpful.

Dems and GOP are Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar apart on:

• Taxes
• Immigration
• Military
• Supreme Court
• Gay marriage
• Abortion
• Environment
• Social Values
• Trade

This is not due to Trump. What Trump does well is he plays to those people and firmly takes a position that they agree with w/o regard of hurting the feelings of those opposed to it. This causes massive fighting. Look at you and me and I am not even a conservative. What you need to realize is that tens of millions agree with Trump's rhetoric and are finally expressing it because they feel empowered to do so. BTW - I think Trump is 100% wrong with his rhetoric but the stupid Dems don't know how to fight against it. You are case in point.

I'm going to skip your first two paragraphs of retarded punditry because you're clueless and...well, stupid, but I'll bite on your list.

- Taxes - Not sure exactly what you mean here but according to Reuters, 76% of the country agrees that taxes should be higher on the wealthy.

- Immigration - again, your one word statements leave a lot of room for interpretation, but virtually no one supports open borders and almost everyone supports a secure border. Most people don't think expanding the wall will help secure the border.

- Military - Pretty sure most people support the military. Even people who are anti-war (a large majority of the country) think a military is necessary.

- Supreme Court - yeah, this too. Almost everyone thinks we should have a Supreme Court.

- Gay Marriage - Over 70% of the country supports gay marriage.

- Abortion - 80% of the country supports abortion in at least some circumstances.

- Environment - are you arguing that half the country doesn't like the environment?

- Social values - this is too vague to even talk about

- Trade - Virtually no one actually knows enough about trade to argue about it. Including the President. Trade is extremely complicated.


You want:
- Significantly lower taxes
- Less social safety net spending
- More military spending
- Less abortion
- Less immigration
- Less gay rights
- Less environmental protections

Don't pretend you aren't a conservative.

FU...Calling me stupid. Again you'd never do this to my face. And you're wrong again. Because you're a Leftist witch.

• Taxes - I wanted lower corp. taxes so we have fewer corp. inversions. I got that. GOP wants that too. You want to tax the rich at 99%. So F off. Loser.
• Immigration - You, aka the Left believes immigrants that come here are the best and brightest. The Right believes they squatters trying to take American jobs. I believe there are good and bad immigrants just like there are good and bad Americans. We need a process and stick to it. So F U.
• Military - Left (tangy) believes we should spend less and use the monies on social programs. I believe we should spend more as it creates jobs and innovation. I am pretty conservative on this topic. I admit.
• Supreme Court - I tend to lean more Left here. The Conservatives want to for example overturn Roe vs. Wade, install prayer in schools.
• Gay marriage - I don't care. Left is for it and forcing people to bake cakes. Right is against it.
• Abortion - Pro Choice vs. Pro Life. I am pro choice.
• Environment - Left wants more spending and more green. Right is all about oil and coal. I am moderate.
• Social Values - You want men in women's locker rooms. I don't. I think there are two genders. I think Islam does not fit our social values you do. Conservatives side more with me here.
• Trade - Right says trade is fine but it needs to be fair as it causes Americans to lose jobs. Left says free and open trading. I say trade is both good and bad. There should be free trade but sometimes the consequence is losing US jobs and some small mid west towns may shut down.

You want:
- Significantly lower taxes - YES so does everyone. I just know its not realistic. I actually want a flat tax. I am OK with a federal tax on goods.
- Less social safety net spending - YES. Entitlements are killing us.
- More military spending - YES. Jobs and innovation and if you carry a big stick you don't have to use it.
- Less abortion - I am pro choice. That being said I understand both arguments. Tough but I lean pro choice.
- Less immigration - I want controlled immigration. Not necessarily less.
- Less gay rights - Don't care. I don't think bakers should be forced to bake cakes for gay couples but I think gay people should have the same rights as straight people.
- Less environmental protections - NO...NO...NO

You forgot one. Fewer dumbass leftists. - YES YES YES YES YES!

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Posted by bad_luck on 7/26/2018 9:40:00 AM (view original):
You’d pay to debate me???

you get your *** kicked here for free all the time, why would you pay for it?

Do I? You'd never say that to my face so STFU, you sissy keyboard warrior. Opinions vary, those that agree with me like strikeout, all3 and Doug say I kick your *** all the time. You have what tang on your side? The dude you called an "idiot" multiple times. Other than that you have Taint. Math works in my favor it seems. Even wylie, a fellow liberal cannot stand you.

Difference between you and me is that I would say that stuff to your face, old man. You'd cower.

what happen to that civility you were talking about, dude? Funny, for someone who says we need to be civil, you call people names on here more than just about anyone.
Also, I am not a liberal, despite what you think.
And I never said I can't stand bad_luck. He's not one of my favorite posters on whatever this site is called now, but I don't know him well enough to not stand him.

Civility to everyone sans bad luck. He can go pound sand. I'll say it for you. I cannot stand that fool.

on that list two posts up, most of those are social issues.

Republicans used to talk about freedom. well, everyone’s entitled to freedom. they’re for lower taxes, but the majority of your taxes go to the military. clearly the national debt is no longer a priority. I’ve never understood how all of these contradictions could exist in the same platform.