Everything I can find in the help says I can remove a player from the 40 man if he has options remaining. Yet every AAA player I try to remove, regardless of options remaining or even pro years, I’m told the player must clear waivers first. Anyone know the actual rules?

Yeah I just found a clearer answer on this in the help. I was confused by “Once he is out of options, he must then clear waivers before he may be removed from the big league team or the 40-man roster.” — when actually options have nothing to do with removal from the 40 man since a player must always clear waivers, as it says later.

If the player has options you can DFA them without waivers and then assign them to the minors. DFA will remove them from the 40 man

Posted by mktulu2 on 7/27/2018 9:01:00 AM (view original):
If the player has options you can DFA them without waivers and then assign them to the minors. DFA will remove them from the 40 man

BUT they still have to clear waivers. DFA a AAA player removes him from the AAA roster, puts him in limbo. He has to clear waivers before you can put him back on a minor league roster.

If he has options you have the ability to DFA with no waivers. Find a guy on your 40 with options and click designate. It will ask if you want to do it with or without waivers. If you do it with out waivers hes in limbo then you can place him where you want. Just did it with Bill Harris on my Seattle team.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerTransactions.aspx?pid=8123867

Posted by mattyjim on 7/26/2018 9:59:00 PM (view original):
Everything I can find in the help says I can remove a player from the 40 man if he has options remaining. Yet every AAA player I try to remove, regardless of options remaining or even pro years, I’m told the player must clear waivers first. Anyone know the actual rules?

Right, both conditions are true. Like previously stated, DFA works best when you have options because it bypasses waivers.

Also what bripat said, that is very good advice. Revokable waiver your entire 40-man at once. HOWEVER- for me the timing matters, and I just don't throw everyone on the list on the first day. My rationale is that if I want to make a trade after the trade deadline, I might need a very good player on another team to sneak through waivers. So I will coordinate with my trade partner to have us both waive our entire 40s at the same time, specifically save my own players to interfere with other teams claiming the guy I want who needs to clear.

This is especially important if I'm buying, because let's say on my Atlanta team I wanted to acquire an 80 OVR LF or something from another team, he would be my 10th best player but maybe he's my trade partner's best player, so if my guys hit the wire 4 hours before my partner, other teams will target my 85 OVR SPs thinking I'm an idiot who forgot to revoke, rather than the 1 good player on the other team who is very obviously about to get traded

Every little advantage adds up

Some contradicting posts. So if a guy has options, I can DFA without waivers to remove him from the 40 man, then immediately assign him to a roster?

Yes. The DFa will take him off the 40man then free to assign where you want

Options are completely different from removing from the 40-man.

Options allow you to move someone from the majors to the minors.

To remove from the 40-man, you have to DFA, which means putting the player through waivers. You can take a guy who is in the minors off the 40-man and keep him at the same level if you want.

Options pertain to the 25-man roster, not the 40-man.