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At last, Boris says something I agree with. Climate change in hell?
7/30/2018 11:14 AM
Posted by RCBracco on 7/30/2018 11:14:00 AM (view original):
At last, Boris says something I agree with. Climate change in hell?
I am an atheist I dont believe in hell. Try again.
7/30/2018 11:26 AM
I forgot, you are from Boston. Humor is foreign to you.
7/30/2018 11:48 AM
At least I reveal where I am from. You...not so much.

Chicken.
7/30/2018 12:56 PM

In 2017, taxpayers forked over $3.32 trillion dollars to the federal government -- more than twice what they paid just 20 years before.

If you're wondering what that number looks, it's this: $3,320,000,000,000.

The government, of course, overspent again in 2017, shelling out at $3.982 trillion, creating a $666 billion budget deficit.

Now comes Sen. Bernie Sanders with a new plan to provide "Medicare For All," essentially a government-run health care program. Under the plan -- heavily supported by the rising Democratic star Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, running for a House seat from New York -- every American would get health care for "free."

Guess how much "free" costs? Try $32.6 trillion over 10 years, according to a new study. That averages out to $3.26 trillion a year -- almost exactly what the government took in last year. That's if the new plan took effect in 2022, according to a new study released Monday by the Mercatus Center at George Mason University.

"All U.S. residents would be covered with no copays and deductibles for medical services. The insurance industry would be relegated to a minor role," ABC Newsreported.

"Enacting something like 'Medicare for all' would be a transformative change in the size of the federal government," said Charles Blahous, the study's author. Blahous was a senior economic adviser to former President George W. Bush and a public trustee of Social Security and Medicare during the Obama administration.



With the cost of the "free" Medicare program nearly equally the amount of tax revenue, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that Americans would have to pay roughly double what they pay now in taxes. But Blahous’ study found that even that wouldn't be enough. "A doubling of all currently projected federal individual and corporate income tax collections would be insufficient to finance the added federal costs of the plan," because the program's cost would grow rapidly.

Several 2020 hopefuls, including Sen. Kamala Harris, (D-CA) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, (D-MA), support the plan, as does Ocasio-Cortez, who defeated House Democratic Caucus Chairman Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.) last month and quickly became one of the top voices in the party.

Sanders took issue with the study by the libertarian group, saying it receives some funding from the conservative Koch brothers.

"If every major country on earth can guarantee health care to all, and achieve better health outcomes, while spending substantially less per capita than we do, it is absurd for anyone to suggest that the United States cannot do the same," Sanders said in a statement. "This grossly misleading and biased report is the Koch brothers response to the growing support in our country for a 'Medicare for all' program."

But Kenneth Thorpe, a senior health policy adviser in the Clinton administration and a health policy professor at Emory University in Atlanta, said the Mercatus study is accurate.

"It's showing that if you are going to go in this direction, it's going to cost the federal government $2.5 trillion to $3 trillion a year in terms of spending," Thorpe said. "Even though people don't pay premiums, the tax increases are going to be enormous. There are going to be a lot of people who'll pay more in taxes than they save on premiums."

7/30/2018 1:01 PM
Tax all churches, religions, and cults to help pay for it
7/30/2018 1:45 PM
Posted by strikeout26 on 7/29/2018 6:48:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bds9992 on 7/28/2018 9:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 7/28/2018 9:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bds9992 on 7/28/2018 5:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DougOut on 7/28/2018 5:37:00 PM (view original):
man, I wish I knew why you hate us so much. Your mom and dad and neighbors. Why hate yourself?
I don't know my neighbors, so I don't hate them.
I don't like my dad very much. He is conservative, and as a result, so was I. I appreciate efficient spending as an individual, but when I started to realize how taxation actually works, and the many contradictions of modern conservatism, I gradually moved away from it.
I love my mom.
I also love myself. I do what I want. I say what I want. I envisioned this version of myself, and after many struggles, I am finally beginning to realize the life I always wanted.

Anyway, someone please tell me what those posts said. I imagine they were in response to something I said, and how ludicrous my sentiments were. I look forward to a good chuckle.
Both you and b_l hate Republicans / conservatives, yet one of you hates taxes and the other wants to tax at 99%.
I'm confused, how can two people who want such polar opposite things hate the same opponent?
this hatred of taxes is kind of silly. first of all, it prohibits you from complaining about the national debt. second, with the tariffs Trump has proposed, if you don’t pay more in taxes, you will make up the margin on imports and exports, assuming China retaliates. markets, especially....well, all of these stocks will fluctuate wildly. bye bye cheap labor: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-all-the-stuff-the-us-imports-from-china-thats-causing-a-huge-trade-deficit-2018-03-23

third, and I say this again, more than half of your tax dollars go to the military.

this is either true, or the difference between the US military is now greater than 1,000 times the next strongest power: https://www.military1.com/army/article/402211-how-much-stronger-is-the-us-military-compared-with-the-next-strongest-power/

heck, I thought you guys were nationalist isolationists! what happened to America First? I guess that actually meant "keep bombing the crap out of Somalia on our tax dollars."

fourth, the children. y’all defunded CHIP. teachers are (despite your anecdotes) overworked and underpaid. they are leaving. we will have less teachers, larger class sizes and worse teachers than ever before unless we actually incentivize them to teach our children: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/apr/10/lesson-battle-why-teachers-lining-up-leave

and y’all have the audacity to support a wall and a military parade. pffffffff
This might be one of the top 3 dumbest posts I've read on here. "Teachers are overworked and underpaid". So, working 9 months out of the year and making $60k a year with great benefits is overworked and underpaid? Really?
I have many friends and relatives who are teachers. None of them work only 9 months of the year. They are often working when school is out. I don't think any of them make $60,000 a year either. Most of them use their own money to buy supplies for their classrooms. Yes, they are underpaid and overworked in my opinion. Considering they are educating the future leaders of this country, I'd think you'd want them to have the best tool s available.
7/30/2018 1:55 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/29/2018 9:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 7/29/2018 6:48:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bds9992 on 7/28/2018 9:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 7/28/2018 9:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bds9992 on 7/28/2018 5:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DougOut on 7/28/2018 5:37:00 PM (view original):
man, I wish I knew why you hate us so much. Your mom and dad and neighbors. Why hate yourself?
I don't know my neighbors, so I don't hate them.
I don't like my dad very much. He is conservative, and as a result, so was I. I appreciate efficient spending as an individual, but when I started to realize how taxation actually works, and the many contradictions of modern conservatism, I gradually moved away from it.
I love my mom.
I also love myself. I do what I want. I say what I want. I envisioned this version of myself, and after many struggles, I am finally beginning to realize the life I always wanted.

Anyway, someone please tell me what those posts said. I imagine they were in response to something I said, and how ludicrous my sentiments were. I look forward to a good chuckle.
Both you and b_l hate Republicans / conservatives, yet one of you hates taxes and the other wants to tax at 99%.
I'm confused, how can two people who want such polar opposite things hate the same opponent?
this hatred of taxes is kind of silly. first of all, it prohibits you from complaining about the national debt. second, with the tariffs Trump has proposed, if you don’t pay more in taxes, you will make up the margin on imports and exports, assuming China retaliates. markets, especially....well, all of these stocks will fluctuate wildly. bye bye cheap labor: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-all-the-stuff-the-us-imports-from-china-thats-causing-a-huge-trade-deficit-2018-03-23

third, and I say this again, more than half of your tax dollars go to the military.

this is either true, or the difference between the US military is now greater than 1,000 times the next strongest power: https://www.military1.com/army/article/402211-how-much-stronger-is-the-us-military-compared-with-the-next-strongest-power/

heck, I thought you guys were nationalist isolationists! what happened to America First? I guess that actually meant "keep bombing the crap out of Somalia on our tax dollars."

fourth, the children. y’all defunded CHIP. teachers are (despite your anecdotes) overworked and underpaid. they are leaving. we will have less teachers, larger class sizes and worse teachers than ever before unless we actually incentivize them to teach our children: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/apr/10/lesson-battle-why-teachers-lining-up-leave

and y’all have the audacity to support a wall and a military parade. pffffffff
This might be one of the top 3 dumbest posts I've read on here. "Teachers are overworked and underpaid". So, working 9 months out of the year and making $60k a year with great benefits is overworked and underpaid? Really?
They work 8 - 3. Half the stuff they assign kids do online So correcting stuff is easier too.
dude, why don't you ask your two teacher friends if they feel they are overworked and underpaid?
7/30/2018 1:58 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/29/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):
Palestinians are Syrians and Egyptians. As I proved to the Leftist Bad Luck there is not ONE mostly Muslim country that is either not a human rights, economic or military disaster. Not ONE. Yet people like him attack Israel and people like tangplay, a clueless and failed HS sports reporter support his hate rhetoric. How about you attack Saudi or Iran or Turkey?

Welcome to the new and improved Democratic Party.
so nice to see all that civility you were talking about recently!
7/30/2018 2:00 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/29/2018 3:40:00 PM (view original):
BL, tang and bds are gullible. They believe the Palestine flag bearers are there for human rights when they are disguising their Israel hate under the human rights facade.

Progress...
how do you know what they were there for? Did you talk to any of them? They may have been there for Palestinian human rights. The may have been there disguising their Israeli hate as you say, but YOU DON'T KNOW! You just think anyone in favor of anything Palestinian is a Jew and Israel hater. Many of them may be, but they are not all haters.
7/30/2018 2:02 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 7/30/2018 1:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/29/2018 9:33:00 AM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 7/29/2018 6:48:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bds9992 on 7/28/2018 9:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by all3 on 7/28/2018 9:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bds9992 on 7/28/2018 5:42:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DougOut on 7/28/2018 5:37:00 PM (view original):
man, I wish I knew why you hate us so much. Your mom and dad and neighbors. Why hate yourself?
I don't know my neighbors, so I don't hate them.
I don't like my dad very much. He is conservative, and as a result, so was I. I appreciate efficient spending as an individual, but when I started to realize how taxation actually works, and the many contradictions of modern conservatism, I gradually moved away from it.
I love my mom.
I also love myself. I do what I want. I say what I want. I envisioned this version of myself, and after many struggles, I am finally beginning to realize the life I always wanted.

Anyway, someone please tell me what those posts said. I imagine they were in response to something I said, and how ludicrous my sentiments were. I look forward to a good chuckle.
Both you and b_l hate Republicans / conservatives, yet one of you hates taxes and the other wants to tax at 99%.
I'm confused, how can two people who want such polar opposite things hate the same opponent?
this hatred of taxes is kind of silly. first of all, it prohibits you from complaining about the national debt. second, with the tariffs Trump has proposed, if you don’t pay more in taxes, you will make up the margin on imports and exports, assuming China retaliates. markets, especially....well, all of these stocks will fluctuate wildly. bye bye cheap labor: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-all-the-stuff-the-us-imports-from-china-thats-causing-a-huge-trade-deficit-2018-03-23

third, and I say this again, more than half of your tax dollars go to the military.

this is either true, or the difference between the US military is now greater than 1,000 times the next strongest power: https://www.military1.com/army/article/402211-how-much-stronger-is-the-us-military-compared-with-the-next-strongest-power/

heck, I thought you guys were nationalist isolationists! what happened to America First? I guess that actually meant "keep bombing the crap out of Somalia on our tax dollars."

fourth, the children. y’all defunded CHIP. teachers are (despite your anecdotes) overworked and underpaid. they are leaving. we will have less teachers, larger class sizes and worse teachers than ever before unless we actually incentivize them to teach our children: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/apr/10/lesson-battle-why-teachers-lining-up-leave

and y’all have the audacity to support a wall and a military parade. pffffffff
This might be one of the top 3 dumbest posts I've read on here. "Teachers are overworked and underpaid". So, working 9 months out of the year and making $60k a year with great benefits is overworked and underpaid? Really?
They work 8 - 3. Half the stuff they assign kids do online So correcting stuff is easier too.
dude, why don't you ask your two teacher friends if they feel they are overworked and underpaid?
Clever. My niece is a teacher. She doesn't feel she is overworked or underpaid.
7/30/2018 2:04 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 7/30/2018 2:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/29/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):
Palestinians are Syrians and Egyptians. As I proved to the Leftist Bad Luck there is not ONE mostly Muslim country that is either not a human rights, economic or military disaster. Not ONE. Yet people like him attack Israel and people like tangplay, a clueless and failed HS sports reporter support his hate rhetoric. How about you attack Saudi or Iran or Turkey?

Welcome to the new and improved Democratic Party.
so nice to see all that civility you were talking about recently!
wylie, they throw bombs so I must retort. Correct?
7/30/2018 2:05 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 7/30/2018 2:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/29/2018 3:40:00 PM (view original):
BL, tang and bds are gullible. They believe the Palestine flag bearers are there for human rights when they are disguising their Israel hate under the human rights facade.

Progress...
how do you know what they were there for? Did you talk to any of them? They may have been there for Palestinian human rights. The may have been there disguising their Israeli hate as you say, but YOU DON'T KNOW! You just think anyone in favor of anything Palestinian is a Jew and Israel hater. Many of them may be, but they are not all haters.
The people holding those flags also held anti Israel flags. They were organized by Linda Sarsour. A well documented anti semitist. That is how I know.
7/30/2018 2:06 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/30/2018 2:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 7/30/2018 2:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/29/2018 2:43:00 PM (view original):
Palestinians are Syrians and Egyptians. As I proved to the Leftist Bad Luck there is not ONE mostly Muslim country that is either not a human rights, economic or military disaster. Not ONE. Yet people like him attack Israel and people like tangplay, a clueless and failed HS sports reporter support his hate rhetoric. How about you attack Saudi or Iran or Turkey?

Welcome to the new and improved Democratic Party.
so nice to see all that civility you were talking about recently!
wylie, they throw bombs so I must retort. Correct?
No. Why sink to their level?
7/30/2018 2:09 PM
Clever. My niece is a teacher. She doesn't feel she is overworked or underpaid.

So, you know one teacher who feels that way? I know dozens and I don't think any of them feel they aren't overworked and underpaid.
7/30/2018 2:11 PM
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