Posted by cccp1014 on 8/10/2018 12:03:00 PM (view original):
No wiley. Bad Luck has told you on multiple occassions that his opinion = fact and that you never take a stand.

Right. You have often indicated that your opinion is fact as well. You're both wrong. Who cares whether BL thinks I take a stand or not? Not me.

When have I done that?

I still cannot believe that we are having this debate still.

Institutional racism, as defined by me and BL, exists.

CCCP is trying to move the goalposts around for some reason. Whatever. He has shown that he is unwilling to even consider the idea that institutional racism exists. As he would say, Captain Ignorant.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/10/2018 10:25:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 8/10/2018 10:19:00 AM (view original):
You’re conflating two different points. Blacks aren’t in power. Whites are. Racism is about power.

I doubt you’d argue that, in the US or Israel (where roughly 95% of the world’s Jews live) that Muslims are in power and Jews are oppressed.

I label all Trump voters idiots regardless of race or religion. That’s the difference.

Jews aren't in power. There are very few of us. The Muslim doctrine is to destroy us. Me being cautious around those who practice Islam is not any different than you labeling Trump voters idiots. If you cannot see that, you too are an idiot.

Relative Muslims in the US and Israel, Jews are in power.

There is no Muslim doctrine to kill Jews. There is no Muslim doctrine to kill anyone.

I'm not calling you out for being cautious, I'm calling you out for being a bigot.

Except there is. You're not a Jew so you have no idea what it is like. Call me whatever you want. You call me bigot, I call you idiot.

Here are the Muslim doctrines:

God

1. There is only one God (5:73; 112:1-4).
2. God is called Allah by Muslims (5:73).
3. Allah sees all things (40:20) and is present everywhere (2:115; 7:7).
4. Allah is the sole creator and sustainer of the universe (3:191).
5. Allah is not a Trinity but is one (5:73).
6. Allah is all-knowing (2:268; 10:61) and all-powerful (6:61-62).
7. Allah created the heaven and earth (2:29; 6:1, 73; 25:61-62; 36:81; 46:33).

Salvation and Judgment

1. Allah will judge all people on the day of judgment (3:30; 35:33-37; 99:6-8).
2. If your good deeds exceed your bad deeds and you believe in Allah and sincerely repent of sins, you may go to heaven (3:135; 7:8-9; 21:47; 49:14; 66:8-9).
3. There is an eternal hell for those who are not Muslims, not practicing Islam, and not of the truth faith (3:77).
4. Hell is a place of unlimited capacity (50:30) eternal torment (2:39; 14:17; 25:65; 39:26), fire (9:63; 11:16; 25:11-12; 104:6-7), with boiling water (38:55-58; 55:43-44), where skin is burned and renewed (4:56), for unbelievers (3:13; 19:49) and Jinn (11:119), with faces covered with fire (14:49-50).
5. There is a tree in hell, named Tree of Zaqqum, from which bad fruit is given and the damned are forced to eat (37:62-67; 44:43-48; 56:52-55).
6. Heaven (Paradise), a Garden (79:41) of bliss and fruit (69:21-24), has rivers (3:198), with maidens pure and holy (4:57), and carpets and cushions (88:8-16).
7. There will be a physical resurrection of all people (19:93-95) on the day of judgment (3:77; 15:25; 16:38; 42:29).
8. Judgment is based on a person's sincere repentance (66:8-9) and righteous deeds (5:9; 24:26; 45:21-22; 64:7).

Other

1. There is an afterlife (2:154; 75:12).
2. There are such things as angels, created by Allah, that are created from light. Angels are obedient slaves incapable of refusing to do Allahï's will. The angel Gabriel brought the revelation of the Koran to Muhammad (2:97).
3. The Holy Spirit is the angel Gabriel (2:97; 16:102).
   1. There is no actual verse where the Holy Spirit is said to be Gabriel or is identified as Gabriel. These verses show that both the Holy Spirit and Gabriel brought down the revelation.
4. Jinn are unseen beings, created (51:56) from fire (15:27; 55:15) but are not angels. They have communities. There are good and bad Jinn.
5. The Devil, called Iblis, (2:34) is a bad Jinn.
6. Jesus was a great prophet but not the son of God (9:30), is not divine (5:17, 75), was not crucified (4:157).
7. Muhammad is Allah's greatest and last prophet, and his message supersedes all other past prophets including Jesus.
8. The Koran is Allah's word. He literally spoke it to Gabriel who gave it to Muhammad.
9. There are other holy writings, but they are superseded by the Koran.
   1. The other works are
      1. Torah--the First Five Books of Moses
      2. Injeel--the message that Jesus gave, written down, but no longer exists. The writings have been altered by scholars. Whatever agrees with the Koran is true.
      3. Zaboor--the Psalms1
10. Pre-ordainment (Qadar) is the teaching that all things, good and bad, are preordained to occur.
11. Fasting is to be observed during the month of Ramadan (2:185).
12. Drinking alcohol is forbidden (2:219; 4;43; 5:93-94; 16:67)
13. Gambling is forbidden (2:219; 5:90-94).
14. Man is made from the dust of the earth (23:12).
15. There is no last-minute repentance (4:18).

Posted by tangplay on 8/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):
I still cannot believe that we are having this debate still.

Institutional racism, as defined by me and BL, exists.

CCCP is trying to move the goalposts around for some reason. Whatever. He has shown that he is unwilling to even consider the idea that institutional racism exists. As he would say, Captain Ignorant.

I have told you 10000x delivery boy, there is no intentional institutional racism. There are racist people not racist institutions. Ben Shapiro agrees with me. He is smarter than you and bad luck.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/10/2018 12:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):
I still cannot believe that we are having this debate still.

Institutional racism, as defined by me and BL, exists.

CCCP is trying to move the goalposts around for some reason. Whatever. He has shown that he is unwilling to even consider the idea that institutional racism exists. As he would say, Captain Ignorant.

I have told you 10000x delivery boy, there is no intentional institutional racism. There are racist people not racist institutions. Ben Shapiro agrees with me. He is smarter than you and bad luck.

Ben Shapiro is too busy to weigh in on this because he currently has his balls in your mouth.

You can claim that there isn't institutional racism all you want. It doesn't change the fact that it exists.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/10/2018 12:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):
I still cannot believe that we are having this debate still.

Institutional racism, as defined by me and BL, exists.

CCCP is trying to move the goalposts around for some reason. Whatever. He has shown that he is unwilling to even consider the idea that institutional racism exists. As he would say, Captain Ignorant.

I have told you 10000x delivery boy, there is no intentional institutional racism. There are racist people not racist institutions. Ben Shapiro agrees with me. He is smarter than you and bad luck.

You moved the goal posts again. INTENTIONAL institutional racism. I mostly agree with you here. Institutional racism is primarily based upon stereotypes and negative feelings, not actual hatred.

Lol, Ben Shapiro agrees with you. Good for you. Get your own brain please. Ben Shapiro doesn't speak for you.

Egypt’s minister of religious endowments in an interview quoted a verse from the Koran about killing Jews.

The interview with Talaat Mohamed Afifi Salem was aired last month on Sada Al-Balad TV on March 14, according to Washington, D.C.-based Middle East Media Research Institute.

Asked by the interviewer whether he would “visit Israel with a Palestinian visa,” the minister said: “This is premature. Let’s wait until it happens. However, we hope that the words of the Prophet Muhammad will be fulfilled: Judgment Day will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him — except for the gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews.”

Posted by bad_luck on 8/10/2018 12:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/10/2018 12:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):
I still cannot believe that we are having this debate still.

Institutional racism, as defined by me and BL, exists.

CCCP is trying to move the goalposts around for some reason. Whatever. He has shown that he is unwilling to even consider the idea that institutional racism exists. As he would say, Captain Ignorant.

I have told you 10000x delivery boy, there is no intentional institutional racism. There are racist people not racist institutions. Ben Shapiro agrees with me. He is smarter than you and bad luck.

Ben Shapiro is too busy to weigh in on this because he currently has his balls in your mouth.

You can claim that there isn't institutional racism all you want. It doesn't change the fact that it exists.

Why so bitter. I disagree with you. I think your hate is worse than any racism in this country. Oh well. Don't cry.

Posted by tangplay on 8/10/2018 12:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/10/2018 12:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):
I still cannot believe that we are having this debate still.

Institutional racism, as defined by me and BL, exists.

CCCP is trying to move the goalposts around for some reason. Whatever. He has shown that he is unwilling to even consider the idea that institutional racism exists. As he would say, Captain Ignorant.

I have told you 10000x delivery boy, there is no intentional institutional racism. There are racist people not racist institutions. Ben Shapiro agrees with me. He is smarter than you and bad luck.

You moved the goal posts again. INTENTIONAL institutional racism. I mostly agree with you here. Institutional racism is primarily based upon stereotypes and negative feelings, not actual hatred.

Lol, Ben Shapiro agrees with you. Good for you. Get your own brain please. Ben Shapiro doesn't speak for you.

I have stated from the outset that racists do exist. I don't believe institutions are racist but they may unwittingly employ racists who in turn make racist decisions. I have never wavered from this. I have my own brain. He is a political expert so I listen to his views. When I sprain my ankle, I may know its sprained but I would still see a doctor to get an expert's opinion. If I have a leaky faucet I get an expert to fix it. So why can I not rely on a political expert to gauge his view on institutional racism? Jordan Peterson also agrees with my POV.

As I said tang, you are religious so in the end God will judge you and IMO it will be unfavorable. But what do I know? I don't even believe in God. LOL.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/10/2018 12:47:00 PM (view original):

Egypt’s minister of religious endowments in an interview quoted a verse from the Koran about killing Jews.

The interview with Talaat Mohamed Afifi Salem was aired last month on Sada Al-Balad TV on March 14, according to Washington, D.C.-based Middle East Media Research Institute.

Asked by the interviewer whether he would “visit Israel with a Palestinian visa,” the minister said: “This is premature. Let’s wait until it happens. However, we hope that the words of the Prophet Muhammad will be fulfilled: Judgment Day will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him — except for the gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews.”

True. And look at some other crazy **** it says:

Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse

Come lie with me, my sister. She answered him: Do not so, my brother, do not force me: for no such thing must be done in Israel. Do not thou this folly. But he would not hearken to her prayers, but being stronger overpowered her and lay with her.

"Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them.“Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

Hence I am cautious about a group that cannot separate church and state. I am not cautious around secular Muslims.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/10/2018 12:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/10/2018 12:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/10/2018 12:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/10/2018 12:28:00 PM (view original):
I still cannot believe that we are having this debate still.

Institutional racism, as defined by me and BL, exists.

CCCP is trying to move the goalposts around for some reason. Whatever. He has shown that he is unwilling to even consider the idea that institutional racism exists. As he would say, Captain Ignorant.

I have told you 10000x delivery boy, there is no intentional institutional racism. There are racist people not racist institutions. Ben Shapiro agrees with me. He is smarter than you and bad luck.

You moved the goal posts again. INTENTIONAL institutional racism. I mostly agree with you here. Institutional racism is primarily based upon stereotypes and negative feelings, not actual hatred.

Lol, Ben Shapiro agrees with you. Good for you. Get your own brain please. Ben Shapiro doesn't speak for you.

I have stated from the outset that racists do exist. I don't believe institutions are racist but they may unwittingly employ racists who in turn make racist decisions. I have never wavered from this. I have my own brain. He is a political expert so I listen to his views. When I sprain my ankle, I may know its sprained but I would still see a doctor to get an expert's opinion. If I have a leaky faucet I get an expert to fix it. So why can I not rely on a political expert to gauge his view on institutional racism? Jordan Peterson also agrees with my POV.

As I said tang, you are religious so in the end God will judge you and IMO it will be unfavorable. But what do I know? I don't even believe in God. LOL.

Here's the reality:

If black students are perpetually dropping out of school in way higher numbers, receiving lower grades on average, being suspended more, and not getting into the best colleges, and this doesn’t happen in small pockets across the country but nationwide, across gender and class lines decade after decade, then we can only derive at two conclusions.

Either black people are actually stupider than everyone else or there is actually institutional racism.