Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 9:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:10:00 AM (view original):
That is absolutely true. In a policy debate format I would have to cite a source. However, right now I am asking YOU to defend YOUR opinions. Give me reasons why YOU think the wall will work.

Because the people who are constantly protecting the border want it. On a naked eye test you see how Mexico just allows people to walk right in and then Leftists like you whine that we are separating parents from children. These parents mind you are doing something illegal. Another reason I think it may work is because it works in Israel when dealing with the Islamist squatters. That wall has been great.

The only reason you gave was that it works in Israel, which it doesn't. We are not at war with Mexico and drugs and such flow through the Israeli border.

Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 9:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 9:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:10:00 AM (view original):
That is absolutely true. In a policy debate format I would have to cite a source. However, right now I am asking YOU to defend YOUR opinions. Give me reasons why YOU think the wall will work.

Because the people who are constantly protecting the border want it. On a naked eye test you see how Mexico just allows people to walk right in and then Leftists like you whine that we are separating parents from children. These parents mind you are doing something illegal. Another reason I think it may work is because it works in Israel when dealing with the Islamist squatters. That wall has been great.

If your argument rests on border patrol wants it, you have to acknowledge that it’s in their interest to have more money flowing to the border patrol.

Also, separating families because of a misdemeanor is inappropriate.

#1) They could get money in other ways. Not necessarily the wall. Your argument is flawed.

#2) If it is a deterrent I am perfectly happy with it. Inappropriate is you calling my dad an idiot.

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 9:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:10:00 AM (view original):
That is absolutely true. In a policy debate format I would have to cite a source. However, right now I am asking YOU to defend YOUR opinions. Give me reasons why YOU think the wall will work.

Because the people who are constantly protecting the border want it. On a naked eye test you see how Mexico just allows people to walk right in and then Leftists like you whine that we are separating parents from children. These parents mind you are doing something illegal. Another reason I think it may work is because it works in Israel when dealing with the Islamist squatters. That wall has been great.

The only reason you gave was that it works in Israel, which it doesn't. We are not at war with Mexico and drugs and such flow through the Israeli border.

We are in a drug war and Mexico is the supplier. Israel is not at war with the Islamist squatters. The wall works great in Israel. You no not of what you speaketh. Ever been to Israel? It works fantastically.

Do you lock your front door at night or leave it open for anyone to walk in?

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 10:14:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 9:45:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 9:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:10:00 AM (view original):
That is absolutely true. In a policy debate format I would have to cite a source. However, right now I am asking YOU to defend YOUR opinions. Give me reasons why YOU think the wall will work.

Because the people who are constantly protecting the border want it. On a naked eye test you see how Mexico just allows people to walk right in and then Leftists like you whine that we are separating parents from children. These parents mind you are doing something illegal. Another reason I think it may work is because it works in Israel when dealing with the Islamist squatters. That wall has been great.

If your argument rests on border patrol wants it, you have to acknowledge that it’s in their interest to have more money flowing to the border patrol.

Also, separating families because of a misdemeanor is inappropriate.

#1) They could get money in other ways. Not necessarily the wall. Your argument is flawed.

#2) If it is a deterrent I am perfectly happy with it. Inappropriate is you calling my dad an idiot.

1) You just have to acknowledge that the BP is not acting impartially.

2) What’s worse, separating parents from toddlers, sometimes permanently, for a crime so minor that the fine is less than a speeding ticket or some random person online calling your dad an idiot?

Dumbazz b_l thinks entering our Country illegally is a "minor" offense. I truly hope his warped sense of right and wrong and what is "minor" never spreads beyond CA, or we're all screwed.

#1) They could have said the wall is useless get us more vehicles. They want to make their job easier.

#2) Why come into this country illegally when you will be separated from your kid? It is a deterrent. It is unfortunate it is only a misdeameanor, which I know it is...like a parking ticket. What you did was worse. My dad did not do anything outside of exercising his right to vote. Again these illegals are bringing this on themselves. If you don't want to be separated don't come here illegally.

Border security is either important or it isn't. There is no gray area. Mexico by allowing this to happen is complicit.

Posted by all3 on 8/21/2018 10:34:00 AM (view original):
Dumbazz b_l thinks entering our Country illegally is a "minor" offense. I truly hope his warped sense of right and wrong and what is "minor" never spreads beyond CA, or we're all screwed.

He is not wrong. Legally it has an equal infraction to a parking ticket. Thank you, idiotic Congress.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 10:35:00 AM (view original):
#1) They could have said the wall is useless get us more vehicles. They want to make their job easier.

#2) Why come into this country illegally when you will be separated from your kid? It is a deterrent. It is unfortunate it is only a misdeameanor, which I know it is...like a parking ticket. What you did was worse. My dad did not do anything outside of exercising his right to vote. Again these illegals are bringing this on themselves. If you don't want to be separated don't come here illegally.

Border security is either important or it isn't. There is no gray area. Mexico by allowing this to happen is complicit.

1) it’s jot just about the wall. It’s about kissing Trump’s ***. Obviously, Trump bases a lot of his decisions on how complementary people are of him. If the BP comes out and says the wall is a useless idea, that won’t be good for them.

2) LOL your dad doesn’t even know I called him an idiot. If he’s as smart as you say he is, who cares? Why are you such a snowflake?

#1) They supported him and his wall when he was competing with 15 others. He was a darkhose. I don't buy that argument. They could have endorsed Cruz or Rubio too.

#2) I am far from a snowflake. I hold people accountable. You are an A Hole. I respect Winston Churchill. He poetically stated that if you are not a liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 40, you have no brain. You are case in point. Only a F*CKING IDIOT would think that border security is not important. I am guessing you lock your front door at night. Shame on me for wanting more security for the country where I live and to punish those that come into it illegally.

Here is the real problem for your party. I am a moderate and people like you are pushing me heavily to the right. Maybe you should STFU and not mass label those that disagree with your POVs.

People like b_l are so stupid they refuse to understand how their craziness continues to drive people toward Trump.

Posted by all3 on 8/21/2018 11:02:00 AM (view original):
People like b_l are so stupid they refuse to understand how their craziness continues to drive people toward Trump.

I am beginning to agree with you.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 11:07:00 AM (view original):
#1) They supported him and his wall when he was competing with 15 others. He was a darkhose. I don't buy that argument. They could have endorsed Cruz or Rubio too.

#2) I am far from a snowflake. I hold people accountable. You are an A Hole. I respect Winston Churchill. He poetically stated that if you are not a liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 40, you have no brain. You are case in point. Only a F*CKING IDIOT would think that border security is not important. I am guessing you lock your front door at night. Shame on me for wanting more security for the country where I live and to punish those that come into it illegally.

Here is the real problem for your party. I am a moderate and people like you are pushing me heavily to the right. Maybe you should STFU and not mass label those that disagree with your POVs.

1) There was one candidate who made border security the keystone of his campaign. Obvious the BP is going to support that. How can you not see this support as self-serving?

2) You clearly have daddy issues. And you aren’t moderate. Punishment should fit the crime, losing your children isn’t appropriate for a misdemeanor.

1) It may be. But perhaps they finally had a candidate who gave a sh*t about them. As humans, our culture is self serving.

2) I don't think it should be a misdeameanor. The punishment should be more severe IMO. I don't see how breaking into a country differs from breaking into a house. Our congress is soft. Like you. I have issues with Internet tough guys who in real life could not fight their way out of a paper bag. You again are case in point.

For the record are you saying you're smarter than Winston Churchill was? This is rich.

1) That’s fine. Just stop pretending that they are impartial. They have an interest in more money being spent on border protection, even if the money spent spent on a terrible idea.

2) Look man, everyone finds out at some point in their life that their parents aren’t superheroes. I’m sorry you had to wait until you were in your 50’s (60’s?) to find out that your dad is an idiot.

If you don’t see how crossing a border is different than breaking into a house, you probably got your intelligence from your dad.

#1) I think they would state "we appreciate the attention to the border but we don't need the wall". Maybe I am incorrect. I am not a union expert.

#2) I am not that old. LMAO. My dad to me is still a superhero. Maybe I'll grow up someday.

I don't see the difference one iota. I wish I had my dad's intelligence. Do your kids know their father is a complete waste of space?