1) You’re an idiot. What if a presidential candidate proposed legislation that meant a lot more revenue would flow to commercial banks and their customers, your support of that proposal wouldn’t exactly be objective, would it?

2) You don’t see a difference between breaking into someone’s house and stealing their stuff vs picking strawberries or cleaning motel rooms for ten hours a day?

#1) That would equate to a higher paycheck for me. Building a wall does not equate to a higher paycheck for the border patrol. In fact the wall may result in fewer agents. False equivalency. You're dumb. Stick to your role as a loser.

#2) I didn't say stealing their stuff. If they break in because they like my A/C and want to cool off they are still committing a crime. I didn't say they would work illegally. I said they step in and expect free education and healthcare for them and their kids. Hospitals rightly won't turn away sick people who cannot pay. Schools do the same. You are a F*CKING IDIOT if you don't think allowing illegals in costs the US a lot of money in healthcare and education. As I said your kids must be real proud that their dad is a complete and utter moron. You insult my dad but you are probably the worst parent EVER.

I never said we should not allow immigration. I said we should not allow illegal immigration. If you want to change the laws and hire more agents to increase the exodus of refugees coming to the US, that is fine. But we have laws for a reason. Don't cherry pick what you like and dislike. Your moral compass is out of whack, like the rest of you.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:01:00 PM (view original):
#1) That would equate to a higher paycheck for me. Building a wall does not equate to a higher paycheck for the border patrol. In fact the wall may result in fewer agents. False equivalency. You're dumb. Stick to your role as a loser.

#2) I didn't say stealing their stuff. If they break in because they like my A/C and want to cool off they are still committing a crime. I didn't say they would work illegally. I said they step in and expect free education and healthcare for them and their kids. Hospitals rightly won't turn away sick people who cannot pay. Schools do the same. You are a F*CKING IDIOT if you don't think allowing illegals in costs the US a lot of money in healthcare and education. As I said your kids must be real proud that their dad is a complete and utter moron. You insult my dad but you are probably the worst parent EVER.

I never said we should not allow immigration. I said we should not allow illegal immigration. If you want to change the laws and hire more agents to increase the exodus of refugees coming to the US, that is fine. But we have laws for a reason. Don't cherry pick what you like and dislike. Your moral compass is out of whack, like the rest of you.

1) Yeah, more revenue equals a bigger paycheck. For the BP union, more revenue (higher budget) means more agents get hired and the union membership grows, making the union more powerful.

2) Illegals are actually a net positive for the country. They pay taxes but aren't eligible for federal assistance, Social Security, or Medicare. They also work for low wages so the low cost of their labor keeps consumer prices down.

Obviously, we don't want to just allow illegal immigration, but trying to deter it by separating small children from their parents, sometimes permanently, is ridiculous and cruel. It does very real damage and only a stupid person with no critical thinking skills would be in favor of that as a punishment for a very, very minor crime.

Manafort about to get a lot of really bad news.

and it looks like Cohen is going to cut a deal this week...possibly as early as today.


I think I'll have a beer.

Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 12:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:01:00 PM (view original):
#1) That would equate to a higher paycheck for me. Building a wall does not equate to a higher paycheck for the border patrol. In fact the wall may result in fewer agents. False equivalency. You're dumb. Stick to your role as a loser.

#2) I didn't say stealing their stuff. If they break in because they like my A/C and want to cool off they are still committing a crime. I didn't say they would work illegally. I said they step in and expect free education and healthcare for them and their kids. Hospitals rightly won't turn away sick people who cannot pay. Schools do the same. You are a F*CKING IDIOT if you don't think allowing illegals in costs the US a lot of money in healthcare and education. As I said your kids must be real proud that their dad is a complete and utter moron. You insult my dad but you are probably the worst parent EVER.

I never said we should not allow immigration. I said we should not allow illegal immigration. If you want to change the laws and hire more agents to increase the exodus of refugees coming to the US, that is fine. But we have laws for a reason. Don't cherry pick what you like and dislike. Your moral compass is out of whack, like the rest of you.

1) Yeah, more revenue equals a bigger paycheck. For the BP union, more revenue (higher budget) means more agents get hired and the union membership grows, making the union more powerful.

2) Illegals are actually a net positive for the country. They pay taxes but aren't eligible for federal assistance, Social Security, or Medicare. They also work for low wages so the low cost of their labor keeps consumer prices down.

Obviously, we don't want to just allow illegal immigration, but trying to deter it by separating small children from their parents, sometimes permanently, is ridiculous and cruel. It does very real damage and only a stupid person with no critical thinking skills would be in favor of that as a punishment for a very, very minor crime.

1) More revenue for the WALL....not sure about bigger paychecks. Do you have a source. In your example if more revenue meant for improved tech for bankers it does not equate to more money in my pocket and may actually cost some jobs due to tech.

2) Source? Are you kidding? The healthcare, education, policing costs still go up. They work for low wages and take jobs away from Americans...not cleaning necessarily but certainly in construction and home repair. So you would just have ZERO borders? Fact is the Dems like illegals because once they gain citizenship they vote Blue. Your and their cause is self serving. Do not deny it.

How would you deter it? Do tell. So a family of 5 walks in and says "we're here"....what would you do next? You and your amazing critical thinking skills that call everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. You F*CKING WASTE OF SPACE.

Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:37:00 PM (view original):
and it looks like Cohen is going to cut a deal this week...possibly as early as today.


I think I'll have a beer.

what kind?

Probably an Elysian Super Fuzz or Puyallup River Mud Mountain Milk Stout. Those are the two hooked up to the kegerator in my office right now. Along with a Coconut Lime kombucha.

Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:44:00 PM (view original):
Probably an Elysian Super Fuzz or Puyallup River Mud Mountain Milk Stout. Those are the two hooked up to the kegerator in my office right now. Along with a Coconut Lime kombucha.

So Bud Light it is. LOL.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 10:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 9:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:10:00 AM (view original):
That is absolutely true. In a policy debate format I would have to cite a source. However, right now I am asking YOU to defend YOUR opinions. Give me reasons why YOU think the wall will work.

Because the people who are constantly protecting the border want it. On a naked eye test you see how Mexico just allows people to walk right in and then Leftists like you whine that we are separating parents from children. These parents mind you are doing something illegal. Another reason I think it may work is because it works in Israel when dealing with the Islamist squatters. That wall has been great.

The only reason you gave was that it works in Israel, which it doesn't. We are not at war with Mexico and drugs and such flow through the Israeli border.

We are in a drug war and Mexico is the supplier. Israel is not at war with the Islamist squatters. The wall works great in Israel. You no not of what you speaketh. Ever been to Israel? It works fantastically.

Do you lock your front door at night or leave it open for anyone to walk in?

On a small scale and with many guards, walls can effectively stop movement, Jones said.

But Israel and the United States’ southern borders are significantly different.

The Israel-Egypt border fence is about 150 miles.

The U.S.-Mexico border is nearly 2,000 miles.

Terrain conditions and number of agents needed to monitor the border are not comparable either, Jones said.

"Most of the Israeli fence goes through open, arid terrain. Easy to access, easy to build, easy to monitor with agents," Jones said.

The U.S.-Mexico border, on the other hand, includes very remote, mountainous terrain and spans the length of four states with cities closely intertwined with Mexico.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/

Also I don't support open borders.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:44:00 PM (view original):
Probably an Elysian Super Fuzz or Puyallup River Mud Mountain Milk Stout. Those are the two hooked up to the kegerator in my office right now. Along with a Coconut Lime kombucha.

So Bud Light it is. LOL.

I do sell Bud Light, but the odds of that are pretty low.

Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:45:00 PM (view original):

Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:44:00 PM (view original):
Probably an Elysian Super Fuzz or Puyallup River Mud Mountain Milk Stout. Those are the two hooked up to the kegerator in my office right now. Along with a Coconut Lime kombucha.

So Bud Light it is. LOL.

I do sell Bud Light, but the odds of that are pretty low.

My fave is actually Modelo.

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 10:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 9:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 9:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 8/21/2018 12:10:00 AM (view original):
That is absolutely true. In a policy debate format I would have to cite a source. However, right now I am asking YOU to defend YOUR opinions. Give me reasons why YOU think the wall will work.

Because the people who are constantly protecting the border want it. On a naked eye test you see how Mexico just allows people to walk right in and then Leftists like you whine that we are separating parents from children. These parents mind you are doing something illegal. Another reason I think it may work is because it works in Israel when dealing with the Islamist squatters. That wall has been great.

The only reason you gave was that it works in Israel, which it doesn't. We are not at war with Mexico and drugs and such flow through the Israeli border.

We are in a drug war and Mexico is the supplier. Israel is not at war with the Islamist squatters. The wall works great in Israel. You no not of what you speaketh. Ever been to Israel? It works fantastically.

Do you lock your front door at night or leave it open for anyone to walk in?

On a small scale and with many guards, walls can effectively stop movement, Jones said.

But Israel and the United States’ southern borders are significantly different.

The Israel-Egypt border fence is about 150 miles.

The U.S.-Mexico border is nearly 2,000 miles.

Terrain conditions and number of agents needed to monitor the border are not comparable either, Jones said.

"Most of the Israeli fence goes through open, arid terrain. Easy to access, easy to build, easy to monitor with agents," Jones said.

The U.S.-Mexico border, on the other hand, includes very remote, mountainous terrain and spans the length of four states with cities closely intertwined with Mexico.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/

Also I don't support open borders.

So now you changed your mind that the wall in Israel does work?

Posted by The Taint on 8/21/2018 12:34:00 PM (view original):
Manafort about to get a lot of really bad news.

Yeah, and then he has to go do another trial.

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 8/21/2018 12:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 8/21/2018 12:01:00 PM (view original):
#1) That would equate to a higher paycheck for me. Building a wall does not equate to a higher paycheck for the border patrol. In fact the wall may result in fewer agents. False equivalency. You're dumb. Stick to your role as a loser.

#2) I didn't say stealing their stuff. If they break in because they like my A/C and want to cool off they are still committing a crime. I didn't say they would work illegally. I said they step in and expect free education and healthcare for them and their kids. Hospitals rightly won't turn away sick people who cannot pay. Schools do the same. You are a F*CKING IDIOT if you don't think allowing illegals in costs the US a lot of money in healthcare and education. As I said your kids must be real proud that their dad is a complete and utter moron. You insult my dad but you are probably the worst parent EVER.

I never said we should not allow immigration. I said we should not allow illegal immigration. If you want to change the laws and hire more agents to increase the exodus of refugees coming to the US, that is fine. But we have laws for a reason. Don't cherry pick what you like and dislike. Your moral compass is out of whack, like the rest of you.

1) Yeah, more revenue equals a bigger paycheck. For the BP union, more revenue (higher budget) means more agents get hired and the union membership grows, making the union more powerful.

2) Illegals are actually a net positive for the country. They pay taxes but aren't eligible for federal assistance, Social Security, or Medicare. They also work for low wages so the low cost of their labor keeps consumer prices down.

Obviously, we don't want to just allow illegal immigration, but trying to deter it by separating small children from their parents, sometimes permanently, is ridiculous and cruel. It does very real damage and only a stupid person with no critical thinking skills would be in favor of that as a punishment for a very, very minor crime.

1) More revenue for the WALL....not sure about bigger paychecks. Do you have a source. In your example if more revenue meant for improved tech for bankers it does not equate to more money in my pocket and may actually cost some jobs due to tech.

2) Source? Are you kidding? The healthcare, education, policing costs still go up. They work for low wages and take jobs away from Americans...not cleaning necessarily but certainly in construction and home repair. So you would just have ZERO borders? Fact is the Dems like illegals because once they gain citizenship they vote Blue. Your and their cause is self serving. Do not deny it.

How would you deter it? Do tell. So a family of 5 walks in and says "we're here"....what would you do next? You and your amazing critical thinking skills that call everyone who disagrees with you an idiot. You F*CKING WASTE OF SPACE.

Where did I say that I would have zero borders? I said we can't allow illegal immigration. The point is that the wall is a terrible use of resources and that the family separation policy is cruel and stupid.