Posted by ozomatli on 8/22/2018 12:14:00 AM (view original):
Are the other 90M leagues seeing high runs per game, though? League average in my league is 8.5 runs per game, with the top team doing 12.4 runs per game

My league is also at 8.5 runs per game. Expected a higher number of defensive miscues overall. Looks like it will have less influence on adding to the overall scoring compared to a lot of the writeups and projections.

Posted by homiealiens on 8/21/2018 11:43:00 PM (view original):
Biggest surprise for me so far has been the overall lack of errors and minus plays for the $90 mil Coors league versus what I expected, even given the small sample size. Average around 2 errors/minus plays a game. Looked at league averages across the different themes and lowest of which were $100 and $110 which are around 1. Expected those the lowest given the number of clones of pitchers (Maddux/Smoltz/another pitcher/any Braves hitter) and the pitching dominant teams with the deadball era string of years.

Played in back to back games in which the opponent struck me out zero and one time with only one error and zero minus plays between the two games. Lot of balls in plays and successful chances. Will be interesting to see the league progress.

I agree. I am seeing +/- 2 errors a game. Is this WIS self-correcting for the debacle of D/D fielding? I thought deadball era pitchers would get killed in this league. May have been wrong about that.

Posted by ejstockman on 8/22/2018 6:15:00 AM (view original):

Posted by homiealiens on 8/21/2018 11:43:00 PM (view original):
Biggest surprise for me so far has been the overall lack of errors and minus plays for the $90 mil Coors league versus what I expected, even given the small sample size. Average around 2 errors/minus plays a game. Looked at league averages across the different themes and lowest of which were $100 and $110 which are around 1. Expected those the lowest given the number of clones of pitchers (Maddux/Smoltz/another pitcher/any Braves hitter) and the pitching dominant teams with the deadball era string of years.

Played in back to back games in which the opponent struck me out zero and one time with only one error and zero minus plays between the two games. Lot of balls in plays and successful chances. Will be interesting to see the league progress.

I agree. I am seeing +/- 2 errors a game. Is this WIS self-correcting for the debacle of D/D fielding? I thought deadball era pitchers would get killed in this league. May have been wrong about that.

My thinking when I was constructing my Coors team, was:

Using straight forward math and arbitrary numbers, in the course of a 9 inning game, a team with a .925 fielding percentage (which is low for a team of D/D+ fielders), on average would make 2.025 errors a game if they didn't strike anybody out. If, a team struck out 9 batters/game (a little high to carry out for a whole season in WIS) and your team defense improved to .950 because modern day pitchers improve fielding percentages, you would make an average 0.9 errors a game. That is only a difference of about 1 extra runner a game.

Using WIS performance history, the average number of minus plays you would expect a team of D range fielders to make is about 1 game. While the stadium doesn't effect fielding percentages, the stadium would play a roll in plus/minus plays but not by that much in what you would see in a per game average over the course of an entire season. Since everyone is using the same stadium, the difference in plus/minus plays between the two sets of pitchers in this league would be minimal over 162 games.

Of course, during the course of 2-4 games, teams will over-perform the average, make no errors or minus plays and under-perform, make 4 errors and 3 minus plays a game but, over the entire season, the numbers above is what I would expect the average team to average in errors and minus plays during the whole season.

So, considering dead ball pitchers will keep the ball in the park more than modern day pitchers, I would guess the 1 extra runner a game would hurt less than the extra home runs allowed by modern day pitchers. After all, not every extra runner as a result of bad defense will score when they get on base against a dead ball pitcher but, every extra home run given up by a modern day pitcher will score at least 1 extra run.

So using that logic, I went with dead ball pitchers. We'll see if the logic I employed will hold through the entire season and not just a SSS.

Your math is looking pretty spot on so far, magicdreamer!

As we approach the 16 game mark, fatigue will be starting to set in. Is anyone experiencing fatigue issues in the 90M league?

Posted by homiealiens on 8/21/2018 11:43:00 PM (view original):
Biggest surprise for me so far has been the overall lack of errors and minus plays for the $90 mil Coors league versus what I expected, even given the small sample size. Average around 2 errors/minus plays a game. Looked at league averages across the different themes and lowest of which were $100 and $110 which are around 1. Expected those the lowest given the number of clones of pitchers (Maddux/Smoltz/another pitcher/any Braves hitter) and the pitching dominant teams with the deadball era string of years.

Played in back to back games in which the opponent struck me out zero and one time with only one error and zero minus plays between the two games. Lot of balls in plays and successful chances. Will be interesting to see the league progress.

I have a theory on this that most will think strange or conspiratorial. I've always felt that the range of a player influences the game more than + or - plays. They are "hidden" in outs or hits.

Posted by ozomatli on 8/22/2018 11:54:00 AM (view original):
Your math is looking pretty spot on so far, magicdreamer!

As we approach the 16 game mark, fatigue will be starting to set in. Is anyone experiencing fatigue issues in the 90M league?

I'm not. We'll see how things start unfolding for teams that went low on innings, though.

FWIW, our league is averaging 152 pitches/game through 10 games. My 2nd highest total in the tournament is in the 255M, at 142. The 65M is at 126, and the others in the 130s.

So you really needed to draft about 15 extra pitches a game, which is roughly an inning a game, maybe a little less. So maybe 150 innings for the season? I took 1676 innings, so I think I built in enough cushion.

Feeling pretty good about my hacky algorithm recommending 165 additional IP

League 2-B is averaging 154.3 pitches per game (average of 98 innings per team). Also, the league averages 3.8 BB/9 and 4/7 SO/9. Fielding wise, the league fielding percentage is .959 (18 errors per team) with an average of 1 + play (which I assume is due to pitchers) and 7 - plays in 11 games.

My $255 team has been a disaster. Started out 1-9 and have won the last 2 to have a 3-8 record. Didn't check the standing page since I was doing horrible but for some reason checked it after the pm game. I was shocked to see me sitting tied for first. Three teams with a 3-8 record one team with a 1-10 record.

I see you having only one 3-8 team, magicdreamer. Not sure why you think you have three 3-8 records and another 1-10?

65M: 5-6
90M: 7-4
100M: 5-6
110M: 6-5
130M: 10-1
255M: 3-8

This gives you 36 wins and puts you in a tie for 20th, at present.

No, I was talking about in my division in the $255M league - there are three teams with a 3-8 record tied for first place in the division. Although, my $255 team is currently dragging me down.

Oh, gotcha. Misread that, my bad!

Three 6-6 teams, three 5-7 teams. I have no idea what to make of this!

I am ok in the 90 mil league but my 65 mil team is dead in the water, everyone is gassed.

I have enough IP's but apparently went way too low on PA's... still 10-4 and by far my best team in the early going so hopefully they carb load soon!