Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2018 3:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 9/28/2018 3:22:00 PM (view original):
With the exception of the what Ben Shapiro’s balls taste like, I’m better than you at arguing all of those topics.

Says you.

Your dedication thread states otherwise. LOL.

Pretty sure the conclusion was that you're the dumbest person on Earth. Well done.

Says me and the records of every argument we’ve had. You’ve had your *** handed to you every single time.

Really? Says the impartial bad luck:

#1) I proved you're an idiot when it came to finance --- you want a 99% tax bracket
#2) Baseball --- you don't think Sutton belongs in the HoF. I proved he does.
#3) Border --- due process....you lost that one badly. And back pedaled.
#4) Trump --- everyone agrees that not EVERY singe person who voted for Trump is an idiot.
#5) Shapiro --- Everyone agrees he is not a white supremacist.

You're 0-5 little man. And you have a thread dedicated to you about being an idiot.

So maybe you should STFU and just listen to me.

Well, you haven't proven anything, and everyone doesn't agree because BL is a person.

Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2018 3:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2018 3:46:00 PM (view original):
At any rate the whole shebang was an unmitigated clusterfuck. The Republicans will clearly pay a price as a result of 11 old white guys intentionally disregarding the sworn testimony of a very credible witness and instead "believing" the testimony (IF you can call it that) of a clearly evasive and disturbed frat boy exposed for his HS immature activities.

I want to hear from the accuser Griffith (I think it was) who claimed Kavanaugh was a pecker waver.
The Senate judicial committee just did the VERY same thing they did in 1991............ rush thru a flawed nomination while (at the same time) refusing to allow OTHER witnesses to testify to what THEY know. That's a pathetic dereliction of duty!

Did you notice how old most of them are? WTF? How about some younger people in the Senate?

Harris and Booker are RELATIVELY young... 53 and 49...

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2018 5:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 9/28/2018 2:44:00 PM (view original):
Not one shred of evidence. Not one witness. Nothingburger.

one shred of evidence: Ford says it happened
one witness: Ford.

one shred of evidence: Kavanaugh says it never happened
No witnesses: All witnesses say they weren't there and it never happened.

Posted by all3 on 9/28/2018 3:49:00 PM (view original):
Seems more and more of us agree that almost everyone in both Parties are nothing but egotistical, self-serving, hypocritical pawns. They say and do whatever their Party tells them, in order to remain in it's good graces, no matter how bad it makes them look to the public.

Unfortunately, it's almost impossible for either side to come close to "proving" what happened over 3 decades ago. Set a deadline of sometime before the election, have the FBI do the investigation, and get the vote taken. This has dragged long enough. The "proof" should have been ready for presentation by now. (Prosecutors in Court only have until a certain date to ready evidence, right?) Whether innocent or guilty in this case, I hate the idea of any person having everything they've worked for their entire life ripped-away from them because of the unfounded (by collaboration or evidence) accusations of one other person.

I saw a HS friend lose his wife, his job, his house and car, and most of his friends because of false accusations made by his step-daughter (she later admitted they were false). For over 3 years he was treated like a leper and will never fully recover emotionally, financially or socially. While no woman's accusations should be taken likely, they also shouldn't be taken as fact.

So I don't see the rush to do it before the midterms. Back when Obama was pres, I agreed with McConnell that the process shouldn't be rushed and we should let the people decide.

And I also hate to see an innocent person have 'everything' taken away from them. Although SC spot isn't a right. But I also hate to see an assault victim be demonized and discredited. More reason not to rush the investigation.

No evidence. No witness. No way.

Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2018 3:52:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2018 3:37:00 PM (view original):
Boris. You obviously did NOT watch Dr. Ford's sworn testimony. I did. ALL of it. She clearly DID remember the "details" of her poly test, and more importantly the "details" of being pushed into a bedroom by a drunken Kavanaugh and/or his buddy Judge and being mauled in a vain attempt to "get a little".........

IMO, not THAT big a deal probably (at least for everybody except HER!)
HS hijinx even.

BUT, he was lying very clearly about the REST of his historical record.
Being a LIAR SHOULD disqualify one from the highest Court in our Country........... don't you think?

I did. She didn't recall if she gave the reporter a transcript or verbally told him of the results. Google it. She could not remember that part.

SO freaking what!!! She clearly remembered the poly test (it obviously stressed her out greatly!) AND the attack of the drunken HS frat boy.
Why am I not surprised you are defending the behavior of drunken frat boys?

THAT the attitude you gonna take when one of 'em does something to one of your daughters and SHE comes home and tells you about it??

No big deal sweetie, boys will be boys?

I think it sets a bad precedent. How can she remember something that took place 36 yrs ago and not something so critical that took place 7 weeks ago? I don't know if the alleged assault happened but it looks fishy and I am a father of two girls and very overprotective. I just don't buy it. Her own friends cannot corroborate it. The timing is odd too.

If he is guilty then it sucks. I am OK with the GOP selecting someone else but we all must agree that there is not enough evidence here to convict him of anything.

Because that's not how memories work? Yes it is reasonable to think that she would remember that she was assaulted. Do you remember everything about what happened 7 weeks ago? Even the main thing that happened on that day?

Also, yes, there is not enough to convict. There isn't enough to dismiss. Investigate.

Posted by DougOut on 9/28/2018 5:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2018 5:15:00 PM (view original):

Posted by DougOut on 9/28/2018 2:44:00 PM (view original):
Not one shred of evidence. Not one witness. Nothingburger.

one shred of evidence: Ford says it happened
one witness: Ford.

one shred of evidence: Kavanaugh says it never happened
No witnesses: All witnesses say they weren't there and it never happened.

So it's Kavanaugh vs Ford. You agree with Kav, presumably because you dismiss Ford as a woman, or you hate dems, either way, I am not here to convict anyone. I am naanpartison.

No evidence. No witness.

This goes back to medieval Christian law. Most pronounced, as pertains to us, in England and the Magna Carta. And all based on the Biblical law we embrace as presented to us through our LORD and SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.

CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRT are here to save and maintain. GOD will judge.

GOD is nonpartisan.

Ussen is non-gender. The creator has no Gender.

Ussen does NOT approve of sexual assault or abuse of humans by other humans.

Walk in Beauty!

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2018 5:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2018 2:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 9/28/2018 2:21:00 PM (view original):
Why not? You don't put someone in a powerful, lifetime position and bank on impeaching them if you find out they are the scumbag that they are accused of being. That's dumb as ****. Investigate first. There is no rush. The senate kept Scalia's seat open for over a year. Kennedy's seat can wait a few weeks.

Kavanaugh lied about dumb little things. Things about the yearbook page, the calendar entries, his history with alcohol. He also lied about bigger things, like the stolen Senate documents.

And yes, I called you stupid because you are stupid. Oh well, not everyone is Einstein. You just weren't exactly blessed with great critical thinking skills.

You have no idea if he lied or not about something that happened 36 yrs ago. STOP IT. You don't read minds and you are not smarter than the average Joe. Actually you're dumber because of your 99% tax bracket and statement that Don Sutton does not belong in the HoF. Ford meanwhile could not remember the details of her poly test but remembers vividly what happened 36 yrs ago. Where there is ZERO corroboration. There is your ZERO. I would destroy you in any debate about any matter. You are an uneduated leftist buffoon. Tell me again where your critical thinking skills led you to calling Ben Shapiro a white supremacist. Or when I showed you that due process does not apply over the border did you backtrack again. You have been proven to be a dumbass on these boards many a time. Do not insult others critical thinking skills.

This is why I proactively called you an idiot. I knew you'd opine as soon as you saw my name.

So you are OK with Kav not knowing what happened 36 yrs ago, but not OK if Ford doesn't remember every ******* detail. K.

Not what I said. She doesn't remember details that are fairly crucial from seven weeks ago.

So in your world the man is guilty no matter what. K.

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2018 3:37:00 PM (view original):
Boris. You obviously did NOT watch Dr. Ford's sworn testimony. I did. ALL of it. She clearly DID remember the "details" of her poly test, and more importantly the "details" of being pushed into a bedroom by a drunken Kavanaugh and/or his buddy Judge and being mauled in a vain attempt to "get a little".........

IMO, not THAT big a deal probably (at least for everybody except HER!)
HS hijinx even.

BUT, he was lying very clearly about the REST of his historical record.
Being a LIAR SHOULD disqualify one from the highest Court in our Country........... don't you think?

I did. She didn't recall if she gave the reporter a transcript or verbally told him of the results. Google it. She could not remember that part.

SO freaking what!!! She clearly remembered the poly test (it obviously stressed her out greatly!) AND the attack of the drunken HS frat boy.
Why am I not surprised you are defending the behavior of drunken frat boys?

THAT the attitude you gonna take when one of 'em does something to one of your daughters and SHE comes home and tells you about it??

No big deal sweetie, boys will be boys?

I think it sets a bad precedent. How can she remember something that took place 36 yrs ago and not something so critical that took place 7 weeks ago? I don't know if the alleged assault happened but it looks fishy and I am a father of two girls and very overprotective. I just don't buy it. Her own friends cannot corroborate it. The timing is odd too.

If he is guilty then it sucks. I am OK with the GOP selecting someone else but we all must agree that there is not enough evidence here to convict him of anything.

Because that's not how memories work? Yes it is reasonable to think that she would remember that she was assaulted. Do you remember everything about what happened 7 weeks ago? Even the main thing that happened on that day?

Also, yes, there is not enough to convict. There isn't enough to dismiss. Investigate.

#1) 7 weeks ago she shared data with a reporter. Pretty important. I would remember it.

#2) Investigate how? FBI agents are not mind readers. They are human beings like you and me.

FBI Agent: Ms. Ford when was the attack?

Ford: I am not sure.

FBI: What house was it?

Ford: I cannot recall.

FBI: Do you have any corroborating witnesses?

Ford: No.

FBI: Do you recall how you go to or from this party?

Ford: No

FBI: Thank you.

FBI: Mr. Kav did you assault this woman?

Kav: No

FBI: Mr. Judge did you see Kav assault this woman?

Judge: No

FBI: Ms. Kaiser do you recall this incident?

Kaiser: No.

FBI Agent (slams head on desk)....

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Posted by all3 on 9/28/2018 11:28:00 AM (view original):
Speaking of liars, remember when Ford claimed her best friend would verify her story, yet that friend said she was never at a party with Cavanaugh?

Don't let blind hatred of Trump eliminate your quest for truth (whatever that is, IF we ever know) regarding Kavanaugh.
Accusers who can fly on vacation, but not to testify in a Federal Hearing? Sounds pretty lame.

You've been spun/misled. Assuming you're referring to her friend "Leland" (I think it was). She NEVER said "she was never at a party with Cavanaugh".

What SHE swore to was that she did not recall any event/party as such described by Mrs. Ford. She also said she BELIEVED Mrs. Ford. Under sworn affidavit.

I make no "call" on the he said/she said controversy. I do have my judgment as to who to believe. Who was "more" credible.

What Kavanaugh was lying about was just about everything else!! The whole denial of his "party boy" past. He is who he is. Everybody knows it............. it's way too late to deny that now. In addition he is guilty of lying to the Senate in previous confirmation testimony.

His integrity as well as his temperament and lack of self awareness completely disqualifies him from the office he seeks.
Trump has nothing to do with it as far as I'm concerned. Other then that I believe HE should rescind his nomination and nominate someone else!

I wonder HOW Kavanaugh will be "accepted" by the 3 women presently on the Court?
Kavanaugh is tainted, no matter what. If I'm him I'm out!
OR I ask for the FBI to investigate and clear my name assuming I'm actually innocent of the charge from Dr. Ford.

She sure did NOT appear to suffer from any mistaken identity syndrome!

You both need to stop. You're both guessing and it is going to get heated over whose guess is the best guess. The alleged event happened 36 years ago. This is F*CKING INSANE.

how does how long ago it allegedly happen make any difference? if it was one of your daughters would you care about how long ago it was? I don't know if he is guilty or not, but at the very least they should not vote to confirm him until we do know.

Posted by wylie715 on 9/28/2018 6:22:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2018 2:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 9/28/2018 11:28:00 AM (view original):
Speaking of liars, remember when Ford claimed her best friend would verify her story, yet that friend said she was never at a party with Cavanaugh?

Don't let blind hatred of Trump eliminate your quest for truth (whatever that is, IF we ever know) regarding Kavanaugh.
Accusers who can fly on vacation, but not to testify in a Federal Hearing? Sounds pretty lame.

You've been spun/misled. Assuming you're referring to her friend "Leland" (I think it was). She NEVER said "she was never at a party with Cavanaugh".

What SHE swore to was that she did not recall any event/party as such described by Mrs. Ford. She also said she BELIEVED Mrs. Ford. Under sworn affidavit.

I make no "call" on the he said/she said controversy. I do have my judgment as to who to believe. Who was "more" credible.

What Kavanaugh was lying about was just about everything else!! The whole denial of his "party boy" past. He is who he is. Everybody knows it............. it's way too late to deny that now. In addition he is guilty of lying to the Senate in previous confirmation testimony.

His integrity as well as his temperament and lack of self awareness completely disqualifies him from the office he seeks.
Trump has nothing to do with it as far as I'm concerned. Other then that I believe HE should rescind his nomination and nominate someone else!

I wonder HOW Kavanaugh will be "accepted" by the 3 women presently on the Court?
Kavanaugh is tainted, no matter what. If I'm him I'm out!
OR I ask for the FBI to investigate and clear my name assuming I'm actually innocent of the charge from Dr. Ford.

She sure did NOT appear to suffer from any mistaken identity syndrome!

You both need to stop. You're both guessing and it is going to get heated over whose guess is the best guess. The alleged event happened 36 years ago. This is F*CKING INSANE.

how does how long ago it allegedly happen make any difference? if it was one of your daughters would you care about how long ago it was? I don't know if he is guilty or not, but at the very least they should not vote to confirm him until we do know.

If it was 36 years ago and she wasn't actually raped I would care but I would also hope that she got over it. I cannot even imagine 36 yrs.

Posted by tangplay on 9/28/2018 5:32:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by DougOut on 9/28/2018 2:44:00 PM (view original):
Not one shred of evidence. Not one witness. Nothingburger.

one shred of evidence: Ford says it happened
one witness: Ford.

one shred of evidence: Kavanaugh says it never happened
No witnesses: All witnesses say they weren't there and it never happened.

So it's Kavanaugh vs Ford. You agree with Kav, presumably because you dismiss Ford as a woman, or you hate dems, either way, I am not here to convict anyone. I am naanpartison.

you like Indian bread? I had some good naan just the other day.

Posted by cccp1014 on 9/28/2018 6:24:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2018 2:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 9/28/2018 11:28:00 AM (view original):
Speaking of liars, remember when Ford claimed her best friend would verify her story, yet that friend said she was never at a party with Cavanaugh?

Don't let blind hatred of Trump eliminate your quest for truth (whatever that is, IF we ever know) regarding Kavanaugh.
Accusers who can fly on vacation, but not to testify in a Federal Hearing? Sounds pretty lame.

You've been spun/misled. Assuming you're referring to her friend "Leland" (I think it was). She NEVER said "she was never at a party with Cavanaugh".

What SHE swore to was that she did not recall any event/party as such described by Mrs. Ford. She also said she BELIEVED Mrs. Ford. Under sworn affidavit.

I make no "call" on the he said/she said controversy. I do have my judgment as to who to believe. Who was "more" credible.

What Kavanaugh was lying about was just about everything else!! The whole denial of his "party boy" past. He is who he is. Everybody knows it............. it's way too late to deny that now. In addition he is guilty of lying to the Senate in previous confirmation testimony.

His integrity as well as his temperament and lack of self awareness completely disqualifies him from the office he seeks.
Trump has nothing to do with it as far as I'm concerned. Other then that I believe HE should rescind his nomination and nominate someone else!

I wonder HOW Kavanaugh will be "accepted" by the 3 women presently on the Court?
Kavanaugh is tainted, no matter what. If I'm him I'm out!
OR I ask for the FBI to investigate and clear my name assuming I'm actually innocent of the charge from Dr. Ford.

She sure did NOT appear to suffer from any mistaken identity syndrome!

You both need to stop. You're both guessing and it is going to get heated over whose guess is the best guess. The alleged event happened 36 years ago. This is F*CKING INSANE.

how does how long ago it allegedly happen make any difference? if it was one of your daughters would you care about how long ago it was? I don't know if he is guilty or not, but at the very least they should not vote to confirm him until we do know.

If it was 36 years ago and she wasn't actually raped I would care but I would also hope that she got over it. I cannot even imagine 36 yrs.

One of my sisters and my mother were sexually assaulted. Its not just something you "get over"