kavanaugh Topic

Posted by DougOut on 9/29/2018 12:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 9/29/2018 9:37:00 AM (view original):
And BTW alltee............... since lately you've been logical and I've been agreeing with you, I'll take the time to correct your spin/misinformation.

Dr. Ford was not LYING for the previous 36 years. She was suffering from trauma caused by a sexual assault on a 15 yr. old.
I'm quite sure SHE wasn't lying just because SHE didn't run around telling everybody about it.

As early as 2012 She had informed other trusted adults about her attack and WHO it was that perpetrated it.

My wife and daughter read YOUR comment.

Their response was "ONLY a MAN would make such a statement about the sexual assault of a 15 yr. old girl."

Congrats! You're on par with about 10 of the 11 Republican old men on the Judiciary committee.
COMPLETELY out of touch and dead wrong about respecting woman as equals.

You're luckier though. Not being an elected Republican politician, YOU won't be paying any political price. THEY will.
This is interesting and I formulated a theory on this almost immediately. Let's see how close I get.

Just as there is FAKE NEWS and JUNK SCIENCE we also have THERAPIST. Doctors of the mind. Not an exact science. Like real doctors they probe and examine and sometimes even cure a patient. Some of them deal in repressed memory. They see people who seek relief from mental issues affecting their lives. Sleep. Work. Eating. Relationship with their life partner.

If I'm that disturbed as to seek help from a therapist, I believe my desire to get an answer would equal that of the said mind doctor to provide one to the patient. A very symbiotic relationship. The patient gets relief and the doctor gets paid.

I know many of you have been on this earth and around the block long enough to have heard of some of these repressed memory stories and how ridiculous and false some of them are.

We also know Dr. Ford is not a conservative. And now we have the FBI investigation the liberal socialist communist party of the United States, formerly known as democrats, have demanded. I think all of us with open minds agree this investigation will not only turn up nothing against Kavanaugh, it will expose a dishonest process from a morally bankrupt and dishonest cabal of individuals in the former democrat party. A party that no longer exists and is suffocated under liberal fascism.

And as sleeper cells go, we know the first documented memory therapy took place in 2012. The same Year ROMNEY announced Kavanaugh was on his short list. AND of course with the defeat of ROMNEY, there was no need to pull the latest October surprise.

SO we will wait once again and let it play out. And it's only seven days after all. It won't affect the mid-term elections. Will it? They won't string us along again will they? They didn't lie did they?

Once again the Republicans have bent over backwards to accommodate the ever increasingly radical and unhinged left. And that means there will be no political price to pay for the Republicans. The target has now redirected itself to a certain Senator. For the first time in a long time I'm looking forward to see the results of an FBI investigation. The swamp has been partially drained and these FBI agents will be the work a day guys we depend on to get to the truth.

Somebody is going to pay a political price and I already know who it is.

I will likely NEVER do this again (quote Dougout) but, likewise, his post interests me.

I wish he had been a tad more specific. IF he is referring to Sen. Feinstein when he claims to know who will pay the "price"........ then one must assume Dougie thinks the FBI will reveal that Feinstein (or staff) was who "leaked" the 7/30 letter.

IF that's true, then (likewise) I'm with Doug. She SHOULD pay the price.
But all that ASSUMES the FBI doesn't return with some sort of corroboration of Dr. Ford's memory, (See below) OR,
that the FBI doesn't return with some serious questions regarding Kavanaugh's truth and credibility.
BIG assumptions.
Particularly, when you factor in that the 6 previous investigations of him went back no further than 1992.
He said NEVER. NEVER possible that He did this thing. Witnesses claiming they've seen him on multiple occasions passed out drunk would certainly call the NEVER into question. He (maybe) NEVER remembered it!

Now, as to possible corroboration of Dr. Ford.

The FBI is likely to be able to narrow the search for the "house in question" to a very few using ownership records of Kavanaugh and Judge's (and THEIR friends of the time!), Dr. Ford's description in relation to physical "layout" (IF she's telling the truth, the House MUST be 2 stories, at least, and It must have an exit requiring one to leave thru the gathering area, etc), They will interview the others at the party who Mr. Judge will furnish identification on. THEY will add info that will be followed up. 7 days is plenty of time. ALL have said that.

Enough NEW info will be disclosed by the FBI to allow for a much clearer picture as to WHO is lying and WHO has the credibility and reliability of believability as to that specific afternoon!

Let the chips fall where they may as far as I'm concerned. I know WHO to believe. I watched HIM squirm, evade, and sparse the truth.
I wouldn't want to be him for NO potential JOB, no matter how important. He is tainted, ruined. Like O.J. (That reference was telling and quite compelling as well, do YOU agree with that one?)

Let those lying be ruined. ALL of them, every damn one. That includes Kavanaugh, Feinstein, or Dr. Ford, IF she's really playing the game you suggest.
I tend to doubt it, as I tend to think that dismissing women's claims is what us men do. For, like EVER!. It's high time we start listening to those among us (of ALL stripes) beyond our OWN circles of awareness. I KNOW damn certain that I owe some apologies for immature male behavior against certain girls/young women. When I see them they'll get that, IF I can remember their name and the incident. I sometimes drank like Kavanaugh myself.

THIS allegation should NOT be about sides or political parties. It SHOULD be about truth, and whether Bret Kavanaugh is FIT to serve for a lifetime on the highest judicial Court in our Country. A Court charged with (supposed) independence, which HE exhibited very little of in his angry denial under oath!

Keep thinking things thru Dougie, you'll get there!
9/29/2018 4:27 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 9/29/2018 4:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DougOut on 9/29/2018 12:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 9/29/2018 9:37:00 AM (view original):
And BTW alltee............... since lately you've been logical and I've been agreeing with you, I'll take the time to correct your spin/misinformation.

Dr. Ford was not LYING for the previous 36 years. She was suffering from trauma caused by a sexual assault on a 15 yr. old.
I'm quite sure SHE wasn't lying just because SHE didn't run around telling everybody about it.

As early as 2012 She had informed other trusted adults about her attack and WHO it was that perpetrated it.

My wife and daughter read YOUR comment.

Their response was "ONLY a MAN would make such a statement about the sexual assault of a 15 yr. old girl."

Congrats! You're on par with about 10 of the 11 Republican old men on the Judiciary committee.
COMPLETELY out of touch and dead wrong about respecting woman as equals.

You're luckier though. Not being an elected Republican politician, YOU won't be paying any political price. THEY will.
This is interesting and I formulated a theory on this almost immediately. Let's see how close I get.

Just as there is FAKE NEWS and JUNK SCIENCE we also have THERAPIST. Doctors of the mind. Not an exact science. Like real doctors they probe and examine and sometimes even cure a patient. Some of them deal in repressed memory. They see people who seek relief from mental issues affecting their lives. Sleep. Work. Eating. Relationship with their life partner.

If I'm that disturbed as to seek help from a therapist, I believe my desire to get an answer would equal that of the said mind doctor to provide one to the patient. A very symbiotic relationship. The patient gets relief and the doctor gets paid.

I know many of you have been on this earth and around the block long enough to have heard of some of these repressed memory stories and how ridiculous and false some of them are.

We also know Dr. Ford is not a conservative. And now we have the FBI investigation the liberal socialist communist party of the United States, formerly known as democrats, have demanded. I think all of us with open minds agree this investigation will not only turn up nothing against Kavanaugh, it will expose a dishonest process from a morally bankrupt and dishonest cabal of individuals in the former democrat party. A party that no longer exists and is suffocated under liberal fascism.

And as sleeper cells go, we know the first documented memory therapy took place in 2012. The same Year ROMNEY announced Kavanaugh was on his short list. AND of course with the defeat of ROMNEY, there was no need to pull the latest October surprise.

SO we will wait once again and let it play out. And it's only seven days after all. It won't affect the mid-term elections. Will it? They won't string us along again will they? They didn't lie did they?

Once again the Republicans have bent over backwards to accommodate the ever increasingly radical and unhinged left. And that means there will be no political price to pay for the Republicans. The target has now redirected itself to a certain Senator. For the first time in a long time I'm looking forward to see the results of an FBI investigation. The swamp has been partially drained and these FBI agents will be the work a day guys we depend on to get to the truth.

Somebody is going to pay a political price and I already know who it is.

I will likely NEVER do this again (quote Dougout) but, likewise, his post interests me.

I wish he had been a tad more specific. IF he is referring to Sen. Feinstein when he claims to know who will pay the "price"........ then one must assume Dougie thinks the FBI will reveal that Feinstein (or staff) was who "leaked" the 7/30 letter.

IF that's true, then (likewise) I'm with Doug. She SHOULD pay the price.
But all that ASSUMES the FBI doesn't return with some sort of corroboration of Dr. Ford's memory, (See below) OR,
that the FBI doesn't return with some serious questions regarding Kavanaugh's truth and credibility.
BIG assumptions.
Particularly, when you factor in that the 6 previous investigations of him went back no further than 1992.
He said NEVER. NEVER possible that He did this thing. Witnesses claiming they've seen him on multiple occasions passed out drunk would certainly call the NEVER into question. He (maybe) NEVER remembered it!

Now, as to possible corroboration of Dr. Ford.

The FBI is likely to be able to narrow the search for the "house in question" to a very few using ownership records of Kavanaugh and Judge's (and THEIR friends of the time!), Dr. Ford's description in relation to physical "layout" (IF she's telling the truth, the House MUST be 2 stories, at least, and It must have an exit requiring one to leave thru the gathering area, etc), They will interview the others at the party who Mr. Judge will furnish identification on. THEY will add info that will be followed up. 7 days is plenty of time. ALL have said that.

Enough NEW info will be disclosed by the FBI to allow for a much clearer picture as to WHO is lying and WHO has the credibility and reliability of believability as to that specific afternoon!

Let the chips fall where they may as far as I'm concerned. I know WHO to believe. I watched HIM squirm, evade, and sparse the truth.
I wouldn't want to be him for NO potential JOB, no matter how important. He is tainted, ruined. Like O.J. (That reference was telling and quite compelling as well, do YOU agree with that one?)

Let those lying be ruined. ALL of them, every damn one. That includes Kavanaugh, Feinstein, or Dr. Ford, IF she's really playing the game you suggest.
I tend to doubt it, as I tend to think that dismissing women's claims is what us men do. For, like EVER!. It's high time we start listening to those among us (of ALL stripes) beyond our OWN circles of awareness. I KNOW damn certain that I owe some apologies for immature male behavior against certain girls/young women. When I see them they'll get that, IF I can remember their name and the incident. I sometimes drank like Kavanaugh myself.

THIS allegation should NOT be about sides or political parties. It SHOULD be about truth, and whether Bret Kavanaugh is FIT to serve for a lifetime on the highest judicial Court in our Country. A Court charged with (supposed) independence, which HE exhibited very little of in his angry denial under oath!

Keep thinking things thru Dougie, you'll get there!
WOW! You're a creep. Pervert. Real men like myself never went there. Thanks for exposing yourself.

YOU are a sexual pervert and scum. I hope the woman you assaulted puts you behind bars.
9/29/2018 4:48 PM
I'LL TELL YA THIS RIGHT NOW BOBBY.

You're a creep. Low life disgusting scum. I never want to see your name again. GO TO HELL.
9/29/2018 5:13 PM
I hate liars. I hate people who pretend to be something they are not.

I live in the center of Mennonite and Amish and Joe Wengerville.

I was born into and grew up in and traveled the world and came back to.

I don't need to be schooled.

SO...for the pretend mennos who vote abortion over GOD...I say....

ETERNITY IS HELL
9/29/2018 5:53 PM
that's the stupidest thing i ever heard

eternity is nothing, again

hell is torture while living

with no expectation of end
9/29/2018 6:28 PM
that's the saddest thing I ever heard

eternity is

hell is

I expect a successful outcome.
9/29/2018 6:33 PM
Jesus Christ is Lord and savior.

Only through his blood shed on the cross can you have eternal life in Heaven.

Countless men and women of faith.
9/29/2018 6:48 PM
this life is the one life

this life you live

over is over

dead is dead
9/29/2018 6:57 PM (edited)
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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2018 3:49:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by laramiebob on 9/28/2018 3:37:00 PM (view original):
Boris. You obviously did NOT watch Dr. Ford's sworn testimony. I did. ALL of it. She clearly DID remember the "details" of her poly test, and more importantly the "details" of being pushed into a bedroom by a drunken Kavanaugh and/or his buddy Judge and being mauled in a vain attempt to "get a little".........

IMO, not THAT big a deal probably (at least for everybody except HER!)
HS hijinx even.

BUT, he was lying very clearly about the REST of his historical record.
Being a LIAR SHOULD disqualify one from the highest Court in our Country........... don't you think?
I did. She didn't recall if she gave the reporter a transcript or verbally told him of the results. Google it. She could not remember that part.
SO freaking what!!! She clearly remembered the poly test (it obviously stressed her out greatly!) AND the attack of the drunken HS frat boy.
Why am I not surprised you are defending the behavior of drunken frat boys?

THAT the attitude you gonna take when one of 'em does something to one of your daughters and SHE comes home and tells you about it??

No big deal sweetie, boys will be boys?
I think it sets a bad precedent. How can she remember something that took place 36 yrs ago and not something so critical that took place 7 weeks ago? I don't know if the alleged assault happened but it looks fishy and I am a father of two girls and very overprotective. I just don't buy it. Her own friends cannot corroborate it. The timing is odd too.

If he is guilty then it sucks. I am OK with the GOP selecting someone else but we all must agree that there is not enough evidence here to convict him of anything.
Because that's not how memories work? Yes it is reasonable to think that she would remember that she was assaulted. Do you remember everything about what happened 7 weeks ago? Even the main thing that happened on that day?

Also, yes, there is not enough to convict. There isn't enough to dismiss. Investigate.
#1) 7 weeks ago she shared data with a reporter. Pretty important. I would remember it.

#2) Investigate how? FBI agents are not mind readers. They are human beings like you and me.

FBI Agent: Ms. Ford when was the attack?

Ford: I am not sure.

FBI: What house was it?

Ford: I cannot recall.

FBI: Do you have any corroborating witnesses?

Ford: No.

FBI: Do you recall how you go to or from this party?

Ford: No

FBI: Thank you.

FBI: Mr. Kav did you assault this woman?

Kav: No

FBI: Mr. Judge did you see Kav assault this woman?

Judge: No

FBI: Ms. Kaiser do you recall this incident?

Kaiser: No.

FBI Agent (slams head on desk)....
Ford knows more than that, and the FBI is good at their jobs. They were good at their jobs when they smeared Trump except not enough to win but enough to make people hate him.
No she doesn't. What questions do you think they will ask that the Senate (most are lawyers) did not? Be specific.
I am not in the FBI.

As far as you know.
So you think they are superhuman and can ask different questions than an average human being?
I think they have insight and info that we don't
9/29/2018 6:54 PM
Posted by bagchucker on 9/29/2018 6:57:00 PM (view original):
this life is the one life

this life you live

over is over

dead is dead
INTERESTING

SO...Why build for the future? Care for your children?

Did you get yours?

You must be very happy then. I'm happy for you.

Have a nice day.
9/29/2018 7:01 PM
why do dogs be dogs

because they're dogs

dogs don need no god to be dogs

dogs is what dogs do



you too, dog
9/29/2018 7:03 PM
STOP TAKING OVER YOUR THREAD!

pluserwise i kilt the pit
9/29/2018 7:11 PM (edited)
9/29/2018 7:12 PM
9/29/2018 7:15 PM
"I KNOW damn certain that I owe some apologies for immature male behavior against certain girls/young women. When I see them they'll get that, IF I can remember their name and the incident. I sometimes drank like Kavanaugh myself."

THIS is what I said and this is true. At No time did I ever assault anyone drunk or otherwise. My sins were of the "belittling" nature. Making "fun" of how someone looked, etc. I remember one girl I used to "mock" by calling her "pelican".......... apparently someone, somewhere (maybe even Me) figured she looked like an ugly bird. At any rate I was rude, and mean, and a smart-*** always. Never a perv. Never an assaulter, never a bully.

I should have KNOWN better than to try to inter-act civilly with a complete jackass and dumbfuck.
I won't again Dug.

You are too stupid, too crude, too much a waste of humanity.
You are GONE/ POOF/Blocked.

OUT of my sight!
9/29/2018 7:19 PM
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