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Posted by The Taint on 10/4/2018 10:09:00 AM (view original):
Senator Ben Sasse comes out today and says he urged Trump to select someone else besides Kavanaugh because he wasnt sure the Senate would be able to handle a sexual assault investigation. In June.

Ford names Kavanaugh in letter to Congress about kavanaugh before he's the nominee.

kavanaugh's team has a letter signed by 65 female acquaintances refuting allegations the day after the allegations are made public.

Kavanaugh sent texts to former classmates trying to rally them to his cause before any of this came out. In June.

YEAH, this was all dropped on the nomination last minute. Lol

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/409821-sasse-i-encouraged-trump-to-pick-someone-instead-of-kavanaugh


use logic

cccp isn’t capable of logic. He only knows what Ben Shapiro tells him while Ben is balls deep in his throat.

Are you hitting on me again? I am straight, sorry. Want to accuse me of beating my wife and kids again?

No, I'm definitely not hitting on you.

You're definitely annoying me with your ad hominems. Ben Shapiro is a highly respected journalist. To you he is a white supremacist. LMAO.

I thought journalism was a dying industry?

Nope. I said newspapers were. He is online and does podcasts. Apples and Oranges. Your first mistake was "thinking". Allow adults to do that please.

I forgot I was talking to you. Next time I will make sure to use my sarcasm font. :)

Posted by cccp1014 on 10/4/2018 1:05:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by laramiebob on 10/4/2018 12:59:00 PM (view original):
Highly and respected are "opinions", not facts. Here is the straight unfiltered truth in your statement:

Ben Shapiro is a journalist.

That be true.

He may have other vocations as well, like maybe "author" (perhaps?), and HE (from what little I've observed) does seem to be a reliable "right-wing" talking head on TV, particularly Fox. He's apparently of Jewish persuasion and (from what I saw) is rather glib and charming, IF a bit self righteous and smug.

My 2 cents.

Ben is pretty charming, albeit self righteous and smug. My biggest issue is the CONSTANT strawmanning. All3 and CCCP do the same. Act as if one small sect of the left is emblematic of all left-wingers so we are all insane.

Give me an example of how I strawman.

Click on non-sports forum, and go to the "GOP" thread started by one CCCP. Read the first post on that thread.

It is a complete strawman.

Posted by cccp1014 on 10/4/2018 1:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 1:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 10/4/2018 12:59:00 PM (view original):
Highly and respected are "opinions", not facts. Here is the straight unfiltered truth in your statement:

Ben Shapiro is a journalist.

That be true.

He may have other vocations as well, like maybe "author" (perhaps?), and HE (from what little I've observed) does seem to be a reliable "right-wing" talking head on TV, particularly Fox. He's apparently of Jewish persuasion and (from what I saw) is rather glib and charming, IF a bit self righteous and smug.

My 2 cents.

Ben is pretty charming, albeit self righteous and smug. My biggest issue is the CONSTANT strawmanning. All3 and CCCP do the same. Act as if one small sect of the left is emblematic of all left-wingers so we are all insane.

Give me an example of how I strawman.

Click on non-sports forum, and go to the "GOP" thread started by one CCCP. Read the first post on that thread.

It is a complete strawman.

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 1:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 10/4/2018 1:05:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 1:01:00 PM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 10/4/2018 12:59:00 PM (view original):
Highly and respected are "opinions", not facts. Here is the straight unfiltered truth in your statement:

Ben Shapiro is a journalist.

That be true.

He may have other vocations as well, like maybe "author" (perhaps?), and HE (from what little I've observed) does seem to be a reliable "right-wing" talking head on TV, particularly Fox. He's apparently of Jewish persuasion and (from what I saw) is rather glib and charming, IF a bit self righteous and smug.

My 2 cents.

Ben is pretty charming, albeit self righteous and smug. My biggest issue is the CONSTANT strawmanning. All3 and CCCP do the same. Act as if one small sect of the left is emblematic of all left-wingers so we are all insane.

Give me an example of how I strawman.

Click on non-sports forum, and go to the "GOP" thread started by one CCCP. Read the first post on that thread.

It is a complete strawman.

Why? I disagree 100%. I don't think you know what the word means.

Strawman:
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

It's exactly what you and Ben and all3 do. You address the far left and take out their arguments and then act like all Democrats are insane because of it. You have used BL's opinions to try to discredit mine. That is a strawman. Let's have a discussion about your points. I want you to explain to ME why your points apply to candidates who appeal to people like me, wylie, bob, and taint, and not to BL.

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 1:28:00 PM (view original):
Strawman:
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

It's exactly what you and Ben and all3 do. You address the far left and take out their arguments and then act like all Democrats are insane because of it. You have used BL's opinions to try to discredit mine. That is a strawman. Let's have a discussion about your points. I want you to explain to ME why your points apply to candidates who appeal to people like me, wylie, bob, and taint, and not to BL.

Check the other thread. That is not a Strawman dummy.

This would be:

Tang: We need to reduce defense budget by 25%

Me: You hate our military

That is a strawman....None of what I said was a strawman.

Here is an example:
Tang: Raising a Palestinian flag isn't akin to racism and wasn't endorsed by the DNC.
CCCP: You hate Israel.
Tang: No, I do not hate Israel.
CCCP: *******. You support BDS.

It's the same with immigration. Somehow you came away with the idea that I support open borders. Same with accusations. On page 1/2 of this thread I specifically said that guilt should be proven. I also said that due process is key in accusations. Somehow you came away with the idea that I already think Kav is guilty or something.

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 1:37:00 PM (view original):
Here is an example:
Tang: Raising a Palestinian flag isn't akin to racism and wasn't endorsed by the DNC.
CCCP: You hate Israel.
Tang: No, I do not hate Israel.
CCCP: *******. You support BDS.

It's the same with immigration. Somehow you came away with the idea that I support open borders. Same with accusations. On page 1/2 of this thread I specifically said that guilt should be proven. I also said that due process is key in accusations. Somehow you came away with the idea that I already think Kav is guilty or something.

I didn't list that that in my top 10 and they burned the flag of Israel outside and brought that flag in. It was not endorsed by the DNC but it was not denounced either. I never said you hate Israel but I did say that the Dems take the side of the Palestinians over Israel. Tsk tsk tsk.

Posted by The Taint on 10/4/2018 10:59:00 AM (view original):

Posted by rsp777 on 10/4/2018 10:31:00 AM (view original):
You must respect the taint. On sports message boards as in real life.

Amen!

Thank you for not quot.......dammit.

Posted by cccp1014 on 10/4/2018 1:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 1:37:00 PM (view original):
Here is an example:
Tang: Raising a Palestinian flag isn't akin to racism and wasn't endorsed by the DNC.
CCCP: You hate Israel.
Tang: No, I do not hate Israel.
CCCP: *******. You support BDS.

It's the same with immigration. Somehow you came away with the idea that I support open borders. Same with accusations. On page 1/2 of this thread I specifically said that guilt should be proven. I also said that due process is key in accusations. Somehow you came away with the idea that I already think Kav is guilty or something.

I didn't list that that in my top 10 and they burned the flag of Israel outside and brought that flag in. It was not endorsed by the DNC but it was not denounced either. I never said you hate Israel but I did say that the Dems take the side of the Palestinians over Israel. Tsk tsk tsk.

I appreciate that in your list you say that I am neutral on the issue and not pro-Palestine.

Progress...

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 3:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 10/4/2018 1:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 1:37:00 PM (view original):
Here is an example:
Tang: Raising a Palestinian flag isn't akin to racism and wasn't endorsed by the DNC.
CCCP: You hate Israel.
Tang: No, I do not hate Israel.
CCCP: *******. You support BDS.

It's the same with immigration. Somehow you came away with the idea that I support open borders. Same with accusations. On page 1/2 of this thread I specifically said that guilt should be proven. I also said that due process is key in accusations. Somehow you came away with the idea that I already think Kav is guilty or something.

I didn't list that that in my top 10 and they burned the flag of Israel outside and brought that flag in. It was not endorsed by the DNC but it was not denounced either. I never said you hate Israel but I did say that the Dems take the side of the Palestinians over Israel. Tsk tsk tsk.

I appreciate that in your list you say that I am neutral on the issue and not pro-Palestine.

Progress...

Tough to be neutral. I still think you lean slightly for Palestine.

I think I don't.

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 1:28:00 PM (view original):
Strawman:
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

It's exactly what you and Ben and all3 do. You address the far left and take out their arguments and then act like all Democrats are insane because of it. You have used BL's opinions to try to discredit mine. That is a strawman. Let's have a discussion about your points. I want you to explain to ME why your points apply to candidates who appeal to people like me, wylie, bob, and taint, and not to BL.

It's called "guilt by association". Someone can't be partially Republican or partially Democrat, any more than someone can be partially pregnant. If you don't want lumped with the Party you are registered with, then change your registration. Yes, that makes me a Democrat, and I am agree I am insane for that, but it allows me to continue voting in Primaries, due to the archaic practice of them being closed in my State. Switching to Republican would be equally insane, as my issues with them are the same.

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 3:18:00 PM (view original):
I think I don't.

So you're 100% neutral? 50/50? Come on!

Posted by all3 on 10/4/2018 3:21:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 10/4/2018 1:28:00 PM (view original):
Strawman:
an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.

It's exactly what you and Ben and all3 do. You address the far left and take out their arguments and then act like all Democrats are insane because of it. You have used BL's opinions to try to discredit mine. That is a strawman. Let's have a discussion about your points. I want you to explain to ME why your points apply to candidates who appeal to people like me, wylie, bob, and taint, and not to BL.

It's called "guilt by association". Someone can't be partially Republican or partially Democrat, any more than someone can be partially pregnant. If you don't want lumped with the Party you are registered with, then change your registration. Yes, that makes me a Democrat, and I am agree I am insane for that, but it allows me to continue voting in Primaries, due to the archaic practice of them being closed in my State. Switching to Republican would be equally insane, as my issues with them are the same.

I am fine with being lumped with Democrats. As long as I am being lumped with most democrats, not the most extreme democrats.