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Trump did call it a hoax.
10/15/2018 3:52 PM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
He did and we can.

You can age isotopes in the carbon in the atmosphere. We've been doing it for decades. We can see that the ratio of very old carbon (from the burning of fossil fuels) to new carbon (from natural sources like the ocean) is skewing more and more towards very old carbon.
10/15/2018 4:05 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/15/2018 4:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
He did and we can.

You can age isotopes in the carbon in the atmosphere. We've been doing it for decades. We can see that the ratio of very old carbon (from the burning of fossil fuels) to new carbon (from natural sources like the ocean) is skewing more and more towards very old carbon.
And...if we weren't what would the Earth be doing naturally? And how much comes from us vs. China for example. Impossible to quantify.
10/15/2018 4:08 PM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 4:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/15/2018 4:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
He did and we can.

You can age isotopes in the carbon in the atmosphere. We've been doing it for decades. We can see that the ratio of very old carbon (from the burning of fossil fuels) to new carbon (from natural sources like the ocean) is skewing more and more towards very old carbon.
And...if we weren't what would the Earth be doing naturally? And how much comes from us vs. China for example. Impossible to quantify.
Oh, I'm not arguing that we can distinguish between Chinese caused climate change and US caused climate change, but we can certainly distinguish man-made effects on the climate vs natural changes.
10/15/2018 4:18 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/15/2018 4:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
He did and we can.

You can age isotopes in the carbon in the atmosphere. We've been doing it for decades. We can see that the ratio of very old carbon (from the burning of fossil fuels) to new carbon (from natural sources like the ocean) is skewing more and more towards very old carbon.
great scientific explanation.
if we start to see the same towns take major hits more then once every 3 years.....they will never come back.
when will the laymen stop denigrating real science.......would you go to a shaman if you have cancer or leave everything to prayer.
10/15/2018 4:21 PM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
Yes Trump did, at one point, claim it was a hoax.

And we can quantify it. A supermajority of scientists agree on this.
10/15/2018 4:37 PM
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Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 4:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
Yes Trump did, at one point, claim it was a hoax.

And we can quantify it. A supermajority of scientists agree on this.
No we cannot. Climate change happens with or without us...see the Ice Age.

10/15/2018 4:38 PM
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Stocks fall, US budget deficit widens to six-year high

10/15/2018 4:40 PM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 4:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 4:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
Yes Trump did, at one point, claim it was a hoax.

And we can quantify it. A supermajority of scientists agree on this.
No we cannot. Climate change happens with or without us...see the Ice Age.

That is true. This iteration is at least partially caused by man.

We are in an ice age, btw
10/15/2018 4:41 PM
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Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 4:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 4:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
Yes Trump did, at one point, claim it was a hoax.

And we can quantify it. A supermajority of scientists agree on this.
No we cannot. Climate change happens with or without us...see the Ice Age.

That is true. This iteration is at least partially caused by man.

We are in an ice age, btw
I agree and we cannot determine if partially is 10%, 15% or 1.5%. This summer was super hot. IDK.
10/15/2018 4:46 PM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 4:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 4:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
Yes Trump did, at one point, claim it was a hoax.

And we can quantify it. A supermajority of scientists agree on this.
No we cannot. Climate change happens with or without us...see the Ice Age.

Gradual changes to climate happen. But this isn’t gradual and is scientifically tied to carbon emissions.
10/15/2018 5:00 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/15/2018 5:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 4:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 4:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
Yes Trump did, at one point, claim it was a hoax.

And we can quantify it. A supermajority of scientists agree on this.
No we cannot. Climate change happens with or without us...see the Ice Age.

Gradual changes to climate happen. But this isn’t gradual and is scientifically tied to carbon emissions.
What % is man made vs. natural?

What % is due to US vs. rest of the world?

.
10/15/2018 5:02 PM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 4:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 4:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 10/15/2018 4:37:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/15/2018 3:47:00 PM (view original):
No one ever claimed it was a hoax. People still cannot quantify how much is man made vs. natural change.

dino is still suffering from TDS.
Yes Trump did, at one point, claim it was a hoax.

And we can quantify it. A supermajority of scientists agree on this.
No we cannot. Climate change happens with or without us...see the Ice Age.

That is true. This iteration is at least partially caused by man.

We are in an ice age, btw
I agree and we cannot determine if partially is 10%, 15% or 1.5%. This summer was super hot. IDK.
We can estimate.
10/15/2018 5:16 PM
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Estimations are not enough not solve such a dispute IMO.
10/15/2018 5:25 PM
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Does it matter?

We all agree that it is a problem that needs solved?
10/15/2018 5:31 PM
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