[CANCELED] Increasing Salary Draft, 2018 Topic

OK redcped, let's trade picks. I'll take #21 and redcped gets #9. Thanks!
10/21/2018 12:23 AM
OK, hope it works well.
10/21/2018 1:59 AM
Sorry for the wait. Was not expecting or, really, hoping to go anywhere near 1st in this draft, and not sure what direction I want to go yet
10/21/2018 9:14 PM
1987 Jack McDowell $1,450,341
10/21/2018 9:44 PM
Posted by ozomatli on 10/21/2018 9:14:00 PM (view original):
Sorry for the wait. Was not expecting or, really, hoping to go anywhere near 1st in this draft, and not sure what direction I want to go yet
Glad to see I’m not the only one with no clue how to approach this.
10/21/2018 10:29 PM
I have no idea either. I plan on picking tomorrow afternoon.
10/21/2018 10:59 PM
what is the penalty for reconfiguring my roster? Say I draft $18M Ted Williams, then next round say Just Kidding I want the $4m Ted Williams. It wasn't clear if there was a penalty for doing this.

This draft is radically different and will require some prep time. Didn't know we were going to dive right in.
10/22/2018 10:21 AM
Posted by rbow923 on 10/22/2018 10:21:00 AM (view original):
what is the penalty for reconfiguring my roster? Say I draft $18M Ted Williams, then next round say Just Kidding I want the $4m Ted Williams. It wasn't clear if there was a penalty for doing this.

This draft is radically different and will require some prep time. Didn't know we were going to dive right in.
I was wondering this too. The rules say:

Alternatively, the owner will be given a chance to rework their roster (using different years of the same players), but only if their new configuration meets the increasing salary rule, based on the round in which the players were drafted

But beyond the fact that your draft still has to work, there's no other penalty?
10/22/2018 10:56 AM
If you were to switch the 18M Ted Williams for the 4M Ted Williams, you would need to ALSO switch every player you selected before Ted Williams to have a lower salary than the exact cost of the 4M Ted Williams. Since it's likely Ted Williams wouldn't be drafted until late in the draft, the penalty would be the quality of your team.

I see your point though, if you just take 18M Ted Williams in Round 1 and then switch him before Round 2, that's a loophole. Hadn't thought about that. Let's do this. If the round we are in is x, you get 25 - x penalty points if you have to make a switch.

So, making a switch of the player you picked in Round 1 would give you 24 penalty points. There's some good faith here not to do this in the later rounds, even when it costs fewer points. I'll flag anything suspicious.
10/22/2018 12:49 PM
But why add penalty points now when you already had this:

Alternatively, the owner will be given a chance to rework their roster (using different years of the same players), but only if their new configuration meets the increasing salary rule, based on the round in which the players were drafted.

If you chose the $18M Ted and switched it to the $4M before Round 2 you would still be within the rule above. I don't see how that is a loophole. As you point out, the more you do this the more the quality of your team is going to suffer. Now if you want to draft the $4M version right off the bat to take him off the board for the other players in later rounds, I don't see a problem with that. If you chose the $18M Ted Williams in Round 1 then immediately switched him to the $4M version before Round 2, the only thing that you are doing is telling everybody you are not serious about this draft.

I can envision a few owners having to re-work their roster in the later rounds depending on the players that are still on the board and where they fit in the salary structure of who they already drafted.
10/22/2018 2:08 PM
It's not a huge concern for Round 1, but as we get into the later rounds it would be a loophole for some gamesmanship. Penalty points are ok for those needing to rework their roster, in my opinion. All the more reason to not have to do it.
10/22/2018 3:28 PM
When I first saw that I was picking second, my initial reaction was, 'Oh, come on!' Was really hoping to pick in the bottom half to get a read on what some (smarter) others were thinking.

1915 Cy Falkenberg 2,228,116
10/22/2018 3:57 PM
Well I could see an argument that your selection could influence another owner who picks later in that same round.

Say owner A picks a player with both $10M and $12M seasons, and declares they take the $12M. This might influence another owner B to take what might be a $10.5M player thinking they can get the 11M later. But then owner A at the end of the round says I think I'll go back and switch to the $10M version and ends taking the desired player instead.

I say allow owners to make changes as a draft selection (so if for some reason I want to change from $18M Ted Williams to $4M, I need to use a draft selection to do that). Arguably, you might even just make it so they do it only in rounds 25+ (but prior to the stadium draft).
10/22/2018 4:18 PM
Yep, exactly my concern. I think the penalty points will be a sufficient deterrent to that (though, to be fair, I wouldn't expect anyone in Round 2 to feel the need to resort to that in the first place)
10/22/2018 4:31 PM
So if the 2018 player salaries become available part way through the draft, they are available to be drafted?
10/22/2018 9:28 PM
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