Random Stupid things about HD Topic

Posted by Benis on 11/16/2018 10:11:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/15/2018 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I think it’s good somethings are random. If nothing was random, and everything was projected, it’d be an easy game to master because there’d be 1 good strategy.
Except, between the random number generator on each play that decides outcomes and early entries, do we really need that much randomness in recruiting?
I think recruiting should be the most random part. EE’s are also random because regardless if someone is a top recruit, he may want to bring a championship to his school. I think the gameplay is good too because it’s realistic. People have good and bad games. And lastly, recruiting should be very random because it is in real life.
WHAT?? Recruiting is very random in real life? On which planet?

Regardless if someone is a top recruit, they may want to bring a championship to his school?? Dude, do you pay ANY attention to college basketball. At all? When's the last time you've seen a projected top 5 pick NOT leave for the NBA?

..slow clap beginning. Impressive stuff man.
Miles Bridges was projected top 10.
He was projected top 15 but close enough I guess. But he's literally the only potential lottery pick I could think of since the one and done rule started.

In HD I've seen the #1 overall pick stay. Not happening in real life and it certainly isn't random.
Joakim Noah was projected top-5 and he stayed. There are a lot of projected-lottery who’ve stayed.
11/16/2018 10:13 AM
“Calm down, mike” may prove to be a top 3 rebuke I’ve seen on this forum.

Words mean things. This is why I push back against folks misusing the term “random” (among others, right dogggg?) even if it feels like splitting hairs to some. If there is order and method, random is not the right term, even if not being in control feels “random” to you.

11/16/2018 10:15 AM
Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/16/2018 10:13:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/15/2018 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I think it’s good somethings are random. If nothing was random, and everything was projected, it’d be an easy game to master because there’d be 1 good strategy.
Except, between the random number generator on each play that decides outcomes and early entries, do we really need that much randomness in recruiting?
I think recruiting should be the most random part. EE’s are also random because regardless if someone is a top recruit, he may want to bring a championship to his school. I think the gameplay is good too because it’s realistic. People have good and bad games. And lastly, recruiting should be very random because it is in real life.
WHAT?? Recruiting is very random in real life? On which planet?

Regardless if someone is a top recruit, they may want to bring a championship to his school?? Dude, do you pay ANY attention to college basketball. At all? When's the last time you've seen a projected top 5 pick NOT leave for the NBA?

..slow clap beginning. Impressive stuff man.
Miles Bridges was projected top 10.
He was projected top 15 but close enough I guess. But he's literally the only potential lottery pick I could think of since the one and done rule started.

In HD I've seen the #1 overall pick stay. Not happening in real life and it certainly isn't random.
Joakim Noah was projected top-5 and he stayed. There are a lot of projected-lottery who’ve stayed.
He was only drafted 9th after his final season..

But okay. Only had to go back 10 years. Super common occurence. Very random.
11/16/2018 10:30 AM

Blake Giffin

Marcus Smart

Harrison Barnes
Sullinger
Noah
Hibbert
Rush
McAdoo

i have no idea how accurate this is, i ripped it from https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Board/103719/Contents/Lottery-picks-who-passed-to-stay-in-school-54418432/?Page=2

11/16/2018 10:38 AM
Posted by Benis on 11/16/2018 10:30:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by thewizard17 on 11/15/2018 7:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/15/2018 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I think it’s good somethings are random. If nothing was random, and everything was projected, it’d be an easy game to master because there’d be 1 good strategy.
Except, between the random number generator on each play that decides outcomes and early entries, do we really need that much randomness in recruiting?
I think recruiting should be the most random part. EE’s are also random because regardless if someone is a top recruit, he may want to bring a championship to his school. I think the gameplay is good too because it’s realistic. People have good and bad games. And lastly, recruiting should be very random because it is in real life.
WHAT?? Recruiting is very random in real life? On which planet?

Regardless if someone is a top recruit, they may want to bring a championship to his school?? Dude, do you pay ANY attention to college basketball. At all? When's the last time you've seen a projected top 5 pick NOT leave for the NBA?

..slow clap beginning. Impressive stuff man.
Miles Bridges was projected top 10.
He was projected top 15 but close enough I guess. But he's literally the only potential lottery pick I could think of since the one and done rule started.

In HD I've seen the #1 overall pick stay. Not happening in real life and it certainly isn't random.
Joakim Noah was projected top-5 and he stayed. There are a lot of projected-lottery who’ve stayed.
He was only drafted 9th after his final season..

But okay. Only had to go back 10 years. Super common occurence. Very random.
It was just off the top of my head because I’m a bulls fan. We probably would’ve picked him at #2 the year before. We loved him.

Bottom line: there are a decent amount. Every year there are a few lottery projected guys who stay.

The problem is, this game can’t replicate the nature of one-and-some or else your freshman would leave every year and freshman would always be the best players. If it replicated the one-and-done nature, the whole game would be different.
11/16/2018 11:40 AM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 11/16/2018 10:38:00 AM (view original):

Blake Giffin

Marcus Smart

Harrison Barnes
Sullinger
Noah
Hibbert
Rush
McAdoo

i have no idea how accurate this is, i ripped it from https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Board/103719/Contents/Lottery-picks-who-passed-to-stay-in-school-54418432/?Page=2

McAdoo is a big example of how it went wrong. Top-10 projected if he left after Freshman year. Then went undrafted after junior year. Griffin is an example of someone it didn’t hurt to stay.
11/16/2018 11:51 AM
Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/16/2018 11:40:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by Benis on 11/16/2018 10:11:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by Benis on 11/16/2018 8:58:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/15/2018 7:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by thewizard17 on 11/15/2018 7:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/15/2018 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I think it’s good somethings are random. If nothing was random, and everything was projected, it’d be an easy game to master because there’d be 1 good strategy.
Except, between the random number generator on each play that decides outcomes and early entries, do we really need that much randomness in recruiting?
I think recruiting should be the most random part. EE’s are also random because regardless if someone is a top recruit, he may want to bring a championship to his school. I think the gameplay is good too because it’s realistic. People have good and bad games. And lastly, recruiting should be very random because it is in real life.
WHAT?? Recruiting is very random in real life? On which planet?

Regardless if someone is a top recruit, they may want to bring a championship to his school?? Dude, do you pay ANY attention to college basketball. At all? When's the last time you've seen a projected top 5 pick NOT leave for the NBA?

..slow clap beginning. Impressive stuff man.
Miles Bridges was projected top 10.
He was projected top 15 but close enough I guess. But he's literally the only potential lottery pick I could think of since the one and done rule started.

In HD I've seen the #1 overall pick stay. Not happening in real life and it certainly isn't random.
Joakim Noah was projected top-5 and he stayed. There are a lot of projected-lottery who’ve stayed.
He was only drafted 9th after his final season..

But okay. Only had to go back 10 years. Super common occurence. Very random.
It was just off the top of my head because I’m a bulls fan. We probably would’ve picked him at #2 the year before. We loved him.

Bottom line: there are a decent amount. Every year there are a few lottery projected guys who stay.

The problem is, this game can’t replicate the nature of one-and-some or else your freshman would leave every year and freshman would always be the best players. If it replicated the one-and-done nature, the whole game would be different.
No there aren't a few lottery pick guys who stay every year. There have been a few over the past 10 years.

I'm not saying you need to replicate one and done. I'm saying that in HD the players ranked in top 10 should leave 100% of the time. Don't decide who is next seasons favorite by a random number generator.
11/16/2018 2:10 PM
"I'm not saying you need to replicate one and done. I'm saying that in HD the players ranked in top 10 should leave 100% of the time. Don't decide who is next seasons favorite by a random number generator."

I think that's a fair statement. I don't agree with it but I think it's reasonable.
11/16/2018 2:16 PM
Posted by Benis on 11/16/2018 2:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/16/2018 11:40:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/16/2018 10:13:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 11/16/2018 10:11:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/16/2018 9:40:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 11/16/2018 8:58:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/15/2018 7:21:00 PM (view original):
Posted by thewizard17 on 11/15/2018 7:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 11/15/2018 5:49:00 PM (view original):
I think it’s good somethings are random. If nothing was random, and everything was projected, it’d be an easy game to master because there’d be 1 good strategy.
Except, between the random number generator on each play that decides outcomes and early entries, do we really need that much randomness in recruiting?
I think recruiting should be the most random part. EE’s are also random because regardless if someone is a top recruit, he may want to bring a championship to his school. I think the gameplay is good too because it’s realistic. People have good and bad games. And lastly, recruiting should be very random because it is in real life.
WHAT?? Recruiting is very random in real life? On which planet?

Regardless if someone is a top recruit, they may want to bring a championship to his school?? Dude, do you pay ANY attention to college basketball. At all? When's the last time you've seen a projected top 5 pick NOT leave for the NBA?

..slow clap beginning. Impressive stuff man.
Miles Bridges was projected top 10.
He was projected top 15 but close enough I guess. But he's literally the only potential lottery pick I could think of since the one and done rule started.

In HD I've seen the #1 overall pick stay. Not happening in real life and it certainly isn't random.
Joakim Noah was projected top-5 and he stayed. There are a lot of projected-lottery who’ve stayed.
He was only drafted 9th after his final season..

But okay. Only had to go back 10 years. Super common occurence. Very random.
It was just off the top of my head because I’m a bulls fan. We probably would’ve picked him at #2 the year before. We loved him.

Bottom line: there are a decent amount. Every year there are a few lottery projected guys who stay.

The problem is, this game can’t replicate the nature of one-and-some or else your freshman would leave every year and freshman would always be the best players. If it replicated the one-and-done nature, the whole game would be different.
No there aren't a few lottery pick guys who stay every year. There have been a few over the past 10 years.

I'm not saying you need to replicate one and done. I'm saying that in HD the players ranked in top 10 should leave 100% of the time. Don't decide who is next seasons favorite by a random number generator.
There are a few every year. Bridges and Robert Williams are two examples of lottery projected players the year before that stayed and it hurt there draft slot.

Also, if the game replicated one and done, basically no top-10 players would leave, but since this is kind of replicating the old college basketball, no one and done, then players stay longer. You can’t have one aspect of the game that’s old, and one that’s new. They both need to reflect the same rules and time period.
11/16/2018 2:33 PM
Posted by shoe3 on 11/16/2018 10:15:00 AM (view original):
“Calm down, mike” may prove to be a top 3 rebuke I’ve seen on this forum.

Words mean things. This is why I push back against folks misusing the term “random” (among others, right dogggg?) even if it feels like splitting hairs to some. If there is order and method, random is not the right term, even if not being in control feels “random” to you.

I'll accept that! I'm in the party that feels like it's splitting hairs. By no means do I think everything is random here. I think some things are. But out of everything we discuss in these forums, for some strange reason, i just like what saying "random" brings out of everybody.

I've never had an EE so I don't really fight that battle with you guys very often. The main thing i mention when it comes to random, is what i've stated in the past..... D2 Team A has a beast of a recruit lined up. D2 Team B has an average recruit lined up. D1 human steals Team B's average player. No D1 humans come after Team A's beast of a player.

Random.
11/16/2018 5:25 PM
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