41%, 42%, 17%, he is barely in the H zone. The recruit decides to go to the H team at 17%.

Am I alone thinking it’s VH or no shot?
12/5/2018 8:27 AM
Zorzi, we'ver been through this 1,000 times.

If you believe that 7 always beats six then you hate it.
If you believe 7 beats six 54% of the time you love it.
If you take the middle ground and say 7 doesn't have to beat 6 but it has to beat 2 then you just complain....
12/5/2018 10:12 AM
Yeah but I do think the system is even more screwed up when you have odds split over 3 or more teams.
12/5/2018 10:33 AM
If you have a problem with 40-40-20, you also have a probelm with 66-33. Same ratio of effort,, there is just one more team. WIS cuts off you chance to win at the top 5. Some people want it to be the top 2. Rinse and repeat the complaint.
12/5/2018 10:49 AM
Posted by zorzii on 12/5/2018 8:27:00 AM (view original):
41%, 42%, 17%, he is barely in the H zone. The recruit decides to go to the H team at 17%.

Am I alone thinking it’s VH or no shot?
It's no secret H can beat VH. Get over it.
12/5/2018 11:55 AM
Pure travesty.
12/5/2018 1:48 PM
Everyone knows that if you can’t knock an opponent to Moderate or below, you are going to have a roll of the dice. The VH-H distinction at least gives us a live view of where we stand on that spectrum.
12/5/2018 2:28 PM
Posted by favre3xmvp on 12/5/2018 2:28:00 PM (view original):
Everyone knows that if you can’t knock an opponent to Moderate or below, you are going to have a roll of the dice. The VH-H distinction at least gives us a live view of where we stand on that spectrum.
Word
12/5/2018 5:58 PM
Posted by zorzii on 12/5/2018 8:27:00 AM (view original):
41%, 42%, 17%, he is barely in the H zone. The recruit decides to go to the H team at 17%.

Am I alone thinking it’s VH or no shot?
Strongly agree that is what it should be. Current system introduces too many fluky results.
12/5/2018 10:50 PM
I dont like the fluky results

but then again we are talking about 19 year old kids making decisions

BUT as a matter of good game play, i think the highly fluky results are bad thing
12/6/2018 9:45 AM
VH vs VH only is great if you're at A prestige, but when you're struggling to keep in races at B- or C+, you can be in full effort and get knocked down by a higher-prestige school pretty easily.

I have a hard enough time staying at H when a big boy comes in, VH is literally impossible if an A school comes in with even a modicum of effort. I've yet to win a H vs VH battle, but at least I've got a theoretical chance in those.
12/6/2018 11:09 AM
Posted by fd343ny on 12/6/2018 9:45:00 AM (view original):
I dont like the fluky results

but then again we are talking about 19 year old kids making decisions

BUT as a matter of good game play, i think the highly fluky results are bad thing
Fluky like the kid signing 17% of the time? it's fluky in the sense that in a small sample size (because for individual users it doesn't happen that often) but in the macro scale, over 1000's of results, it works out close to expected target %.
12/6/2018 1:56 PM
The problem I have with VH vs H at D-1 is:

Any mid major can win a game in the tournament, get to B to B+ and battle for any recruit by getting to high. Although, I'm not saying a B range team should "never" get a top recruit.

Even D- baseline prestige teams, coaching in a conference by themselves or maybe one other coach, make the NT every year by winning the conf tournament or maybe a team where they have a great season, win a game or two in the NT, even if it's just once every 4 years, now they are sitting at a B prestige and with a couple of preferences going their way, they can basically get to high and battle for any recruit, that to me is a real issue that should be fixed.

I will add this though, I don't think it's realistic, but do think it adds to the competitive balance at D-1, depending on whether you think it' a good or bad thing. If anything comes out of it, it may help user retention, maybe some of the top coaches at high baseline schools end up leaving, but possible you get more mid major coaches sticking it out.
12/6/2018 2:12 PM (edited)
Posted by thewizard17 on 12/6/2018 2:12:00 PM (view original):
The problem I have with VH vs H at D-1 is:

Any mid major can win a game in the tournament, get to B to B+ and battle for any recruit by getting to high. Although, I'm not saying a B range team should "never" get a top recruit.

Even D- baseline prestige teams, coaching in a conference by themselves or maybe one other coach, make the NT every year by winning the conf tournament or maybe a team where they have a great season, win a game or two in the NT, even if it's just once every 4 years, now they are sitting at a B prestige and with a couple of preferences going their way, they can basically get to high and battle for any recruit, that to me is a real issue that should be fixed.

I will add this though, I don't think it's realistic, but do think it adds to the competitive balance at D-1, depending on whether you think it' a good or bad thing. If anything comes out of it, it may help user retention, maybe some of the top coaches at high baseline schools end up leaving, but possible you get more mid major coaches sticking it out.
Ha! Your "real issue" is what I like about it!
12/6/2018 3:05 PM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 12/6/2018 3:05:00 PM (view original):
Posted by thewizard17 on 12/6/2018 2:12:00 PM (view original):
The problem I have with VH vs H at D-1 is:

Any mid major can win a game in the tournament, get to B to B+ and battle for any recruit by getting to high. Although, I'm not saying a B range team should "never" get a top recruit.

Even D- baseline prestige teams, coaching in a conference by themselves or maybe one other coach, make the NT every year by winning the conf tournament or maybe a team where they have a great season, win a game or two in the NT, even if it's just once every 4 years, now they are sitting at a B prestige and with a couple of preferences going their way, they can basically get to high and battle for any recruit, that to me is a real issue that should be fixed.

I will add this though, I don't think it's realistic, but do think it adds to the competitive balance at D-1, depending on whether you think it' a good or bad thing. If anything comes out of it, it may help user retention, maybe some of the top coaches at high baseline schools end up leaving, but possible you get more mid major coaches sticking it out.
Ha! Your "real issue" is what I like about it!
But isn't it an issue? A D- baseline prestige school competing against an A+ school at D-1?

12/6/2018 3:32 PM
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