It does a switch hitter is better then a rh hitter.

Posted by brianp87 on 12/20/2018 4:36:00 PM (view original):
It does a switch hitter is better then a rh hitter.

Yeah, but I thought you meant RH helped him out. I was confused.

I think with a current contact rating of 12 he will max out around 25 at best. The other ratings will be great but I woudn't be surprised if he doesn't get to 20 in contact

Minor league stats are to be taken with a large grain of salt but what I see in his HiA numbers are the proportions - HRs and RBIs, .880 OPS, .267 BA, 28% K-Rate. In the majors, drop each of those by probably 30 points. His Eye won't be great and like kartchy said, his Contact should be poor. I expect he'll slug but strike out a ton.

Just a word of advice, sportsbulls, I wouldn't get too wrapped up in the projections that you see for guys. They will leave you wanting more times than not.

What should I get wrapped up in with prospects? Like how should I know what they’ll get too? Thanks for the advice though, I probably get too wrapped up. (Edited for punctuation mistake.)

The longer you play the game, the more comfortable you will get in evaluating prospects based off current ratings and progression history (for your own players). It won't be long before you start taking advanced down to zero and it will become useless to you giving you an extra $20M to spend in other areas. Until that time, I would recommend subtracting 10% from your prospects projected ratings across the board. This will be pretty accurate in most areas and leave you pleasantly surprised at times.

Posted by pjfoster13 on 12/21/2018 10:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by kartchy on 12/21/2018 12:11:00 PM (view original):
I think with a current contact rating of 12 he will max out around 25 at best. The other ratings will be great but I woudn't be surprised if he doesn't get to 20 in contact

Contact doesn't matter

What do you mean?

Posted by Sportsbulls on 12/22/2018 12:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by pjfoster13 on 12/21/2018 10:44:00 PM (view original):

Posted by kartchy on 12/21/2018 12:11:00 PM (view original):
I think with a current contact rating of 12 he will max out around 25 at best. The other ratings will be great but I woudn't be surprised if he doesn't get to 20 in contact

Contact doesn't matter

What do you mean?

Meaning, the "type" of out is determined after it has already been determined to be an out or a hit.
So Contact is simply a modifier to determine what type of out.
A guy with low contact will have a LOT of strikeouts, BUT if his contact was higher, then those strikeouts would simply be converted into ground outs or fly outs. So no real difference.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with pj that it "doesn't matter", but it certainly has less value than most folks give it credit for.

Why might it matter?

Because a K is a K is a K, whereas, a fly out or ground out could potentially turn into an error and reaching base (if I'm remembering the order of the decision tree correctly).
The flip side is it could also turn into a DP, whereas a K can never result in a DP.

What about moving baserunners over? Surely it must factor into that. I mean, that's the only real life downside of a strikeout, which is why players today don't care about strikeouts anymore.

Posted by damag on 12/22/2018 3:48:00 PM (view original):
What about moving baserunners over? Surely it must factor into that. I mean, that's the only real life downside of a strikeout, which is why players today don't care about strikeouts anymore.

I would agree.

Not saying this to argue, but trying to think of the decision tree. If Contact has no effect other than the type of out, then the decision tree would have to be:

1/ Does the hitter reach base?
2/ If not, do the runners move?
3/ What type of out is it?

Because if 2 and 3 were reversed, then Contact would surely have an effect on whether the runners move.

I think 2 and 3 ARE reversed, and that's why I don't think you can say "contact doesn't matter". It matters, just not as much as folks might expect.

If 2 and 3 were reversed, then once it was determined which kind of out it was, the other factors would come into play.

So if it is a K , then nothing more needs calculating.
If it were a fly out then defender's AS/AA and base running aggressiveness settings and SP/BR may come into play to determine SAC or not.
On a ground out same may be used to determine DP or not.

Looking back, one of the first things the tree determines is:
"Is the ball in play?".
So it would stand to reason that contact would be used for that initial calculation.

That would fully contradict that it is a modifier at all, and even if it is, it is certainly more than just that.