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Yep........ and just WHAT it was HE stood for in the American consciousness/psyche (the cherry tree, remember?) in comparison to where/what we are/have now...........
1/3/2019 11:20 AM
I'm not trying to get in a religious debate here, but more about honor. Our founding fathers believed that you couldn't have a successful country without God. This created moral absolutism. We lost this many years ago. Whether you believe in God or not is your choice, but our country has no values left to hold anyone accountable. Our morals blow where ever the wind takes them and we're paying the price for it.

Our founding fathers wrote the Declaration of Independence by citing 27 biblical violations of Great Britain. Thomas Jefferson called the bible "the cornerstone for American liberty" and put it in our schools. We eliminated God from the equation of American life, thus eliminating the reason this nation first began. Of the 55 men who formed our constitution, 52 were active members of their church. Founding father Noah Webster could literally quote the bible chapter and verse. James Madison said, "We've staked our future on our ability to follow The Ten Commandments with all our heart". In his farewell address, Washington said, "You can't have national morality apart from religious principle, " and it's true 'Cause right now we have nearly 150,000 kids carrying guns to these war zones we call public schools. In the '40's and '50's student problems were chewing gum and talking. In the '00's, rape and murder are the trend. Abe Lincoln said, "The philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation will be the philosophy of the government of the next".

Once again, I am not trying to force religion on anyone, but by eliminating it we have produced leaders such as Clinton and Trump. Our country has lost its values and principles.
1/3/2019 11:44 AM
I agree with you somewhat strikeout, although it is demeaning to us to suggest that without religion we have no moral compass at all...
1/3/2019 11:52 AM
I never said that you couldn't have morality without religion. George Washington did. Japan's honor is in family. Our honor was found in our religion. We now have nothing.
1/3/2019 11:58 AM
Religion is the root of all morality.
1/3/2019 12:06 PM
strikeout, I have to disagree. The people in this country who have no moral compass had no moral compass to begin with. Religion has nothing to do with it. I'm not very religious and I have a moral compass, as do most (if not all)of the people I know. I have no problems with religion, but to say the lack of religion is an excuse for no moral compass is a poor excuse. If someone is a moral person, they don't need religion to show it.
1/3/2019 12:15 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 1/3/2019 12:06:00 PM (view original):
Religion is the root of all morality.
I call bullshit..or were you being sarcastic?
1/3/2019 12:16 PM
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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/3/2019 11:58:00 AM (view original):
I never said that you couldn't have morality without religion. George Washington did. Japan's honor is in family. Our honor was found in our religion. We now have nothing.
Hmm. Interesting point.
1/3/2019 1:03 PM
Posted by strikeout26 on 1/3/2019 12:19:00 PM (view original):
I'm not sure if Tec was being sarcastic or not, but he is right. Throughout history, laws and moral values were based on that cultures religion. Our constitution and Declaration of Independence were written using the bible for it's basis.
But our laws aren’t based on religious morality. Look at the Ten Commandments, how many of those are laws? Two? Three, if you count old adultery laws?

In fact, our constitution directly violates several of them.
1/3/2019 2:07 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 1/3/2019 12:06:00 PM (view original):
Religion is the root of all morality.
Empathy is the root of all morality.
1/3/2019 2:09 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 1/3/2019 2:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 1/3/2019 12:19:00 PM (view original):
I'm not sure if Tec was being sarcastic or not, but he is right. Throughout history, laws and moral values were based on that cultures religion. Our constitution and Declaration of Independence were written using the bible for it's basis.
But our laws aren’t based on religious morality. Look at the Ten Commandments, how many of those are laws? Two? Three, if you count old adultery laws?

In fact, our constitution directly violates several of them.
Our founders specifically stated that it was.
1/3/2019 2:10 PM
Posted by strikeout26 on 1/3/2019 2:09:00 PM (view original):
Our founders specifically stated that it was.
And then they gave everyone the legal right to believe in any or no god, say anything, disrespect anyone, lie to anyone, do anything on Sunday, and covet anything.

Actions over words.
1/3/2019 2:11 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 1/3/2019 2:09:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 1/3/2019 12:06:00 PM (view original):
Religion is the root of all morality.
Empathy is the root of all morality.
So, you're saying that the majority of the civilizations throughout history didn't make their laws based on their religion and their moral code wasn't dictated by their religion?
1/3/2019 2:13 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 1/3/2019 2:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 1/3/2019 2:09:00 PM (view original):
Our founders specifically stated that it was.
And then they gave everyone the legal right to believe in any or no god, say anything, disrespect anyone, lie to anyone, do anything on Sunday, and covet anything.

Actions over words.
Yep, they gave us freedom of choice which is a biblical principle.
1/3/2019 2:14 PM
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