Born *******. No one likes you DOUGOFF. Even Rush thinks you are an idiot
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Posted by all3 on 1/12/2019 12:44:00 PM (view original):
So you distorted the figure terribly - it doesn't say 66 percent of all illegals in the Country came on Visas - it says that was the case for 1 individual year.
What % of those who came before 2007 were "true" illegals? Did they magically disappear, or are they still here? If Trump tried to distort #s like you are (and he does, as do ALL politicians), you'd be having a cow. Go enjoy some college basketball and then some NFL football, instead of obsessing over trying to slander the POTUS with misrepresented figures.
Another study says that over that past 10-15 years or so, the overall number is 65%. If I find the time to look for in in between "watching basketball and NFL football", I'll post it.

It's funny that you are defending your boy over what you are claiming are "misrepresented figures". That's really funny.
Just pointing-out the typical double-standard that Trump-haters like to abide by.
They claim he's a liar by lying about him, they claim he's a hater by hating on him, they claim he's stubborn and unyielding by being stubborn and unyielding, they claim all sorts of different things while being that exact thing themselves. Their hypocrisy is laughable, and their credible totally shot.
Is that really what you want to be too?

I will admit your analogy is quite good though. Unfortunately, in our f'd-up political system, controlled by two Parties instead of people, this is how things now work. The Party in charge does sheit simply so they can say they did it, and to annoy the other Party. It will NOT change as long as Parties run the Country.
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As I think trump is an agent of the Russkies/Putin's *****......... then your logic would make me a Russkie too eh??? Dumbness squared.

Nope. I'm just the same old me.......... an aging desert rat who just tries to avoid stepping in large piles of ****.
Not me man, you just keep on defending Trump. That shitpile is gonna get so deep we'll finally stop reading any more of your insane bullshit!
1/13/2019 11:58 AM
Posted by laramiebob on 1/13/2019 11:58:00 AM (view original):
As I think trump is an agent of the Russkies/Putin's *****......... then your logic would make me a Russkie too eh??? Dumbness squared.

Nope. I'm just the same old me.......... an aging desert rat who just tries to avoid stepping in large piles of ****.
Not me man, you just keep on defending Trump. That shitpile is gonna get so deep we'll finally stop reading any more of your insane bullshit!




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Posted by laramiebob on 1/13/2019 11:58:00 AM (view original):
As I think trump is an agent of the Russkies/Putin's *****......... then your logic would make me a Russkie too eh??? Dumbness squared.

Nope. I'm just the same old me.......... an aging desert rat who just tries to avoid stepping in large piles of ****.
Not me man, you just keep on defending Trump. That shitpile is gonna get so deep we'll finally stop reading any more of your insane bullshit!
This is exactly the kind of extremist dumbazzery that caused me to block so many of this site's Liberals and has kept me from reading even one single post of their's since New Year's Day. Still professing delusional conspiracy theories they've unsuccessfully been trying to find any evidence at all about for years now and then threatening to do to me what I have long ago done to them. Glad to know that I'm not missing anything new. These guys are still a bigger joke than the Chargers' Defense was in the 1st half. Maybe I'll check-in on one of them come February, IF I need a good laugh.
1/13/2019 6:24 PM (edited)
Meet the Press today was fantastic.

FBI investigating a sitting presidouche for what again?

Yep...

Russian Collusion in which he acted as an agent for Putin.

The day the Mueller Report comes out is going to be an amazing day in history.
1/13/2019 3:49 PM
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Posted by all3 on 1/12/2019 8:50:00 AM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 1/11/2019 6:01:00 PM (view original):
As usual, Trump lied, but somehow it is not his fault.
If you're saying he lied when he said he'd find a way to have Mexico pay for it, then yes, he did.

If you mean something else, you are totally wrong. He's doing everything possible to get a wall built. Anyone with an IQ of 1 (which means even most of our Liberal friends here) knew Trump couldn't wave his magic wand, or click his heals twice, and have a wall built. They knew it would take the cooperation and compromise of others to get it done. Unfortunately, those who could (should?) be cooperating and compromising, are instead playing political games and holding Government workers as their game pieces.
I'm saying he lied when he said Mexico would pay for it. I have no doubt he wants to build the wall, And it takes 2 parties to compromise. Both dems and republicans are holding American workers hostage, and you can bet your *** the congressman and senators aren't missing any paychecks.
I'm going to disagree with this. The house passed a bill that the senate passed unanimously, authored by the Democrats. Trump refused to sign it.

There was an agreement in place, locked, signed, sealed and delivered....Trump vetoed it after Rush and Coulter pounded him over it.

The Democrats took the house and part of their platform was no wall. As I read on these boards plenty in the last two years, elections have consequences.

There are two different funding bills sitting on McConnell's desk. He refuses to even hold a vote on them. Like Trump said in the Oval Office with Cryin Chuck and Nasty Nancy, he will own it and not blame anyone else.
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I'm gonna try and leave any vitriol and rhetoric OUT of this post and stick to some basic facts in an attempt to actually spur some enlightened debate on this rather divisive subject.

I live in Arizona. A border state. We have some wall/barriers. They are fine as they are. They exist in populated areas of cities primarily. Like Nogales.
Nogales is just south of Tucson on I -19. It is (along with San Luis/Yuma) pretty much the largest border crossing area in the State. Has been for years.
I've crossed there myself. In my car. With my wife and family. We have (in AZ) several other border "crossings" some very very rural (Sasabe) and some in between like Lukeville which is the crossing for the Phoenix folks to go to Rocky Point, a favorite party destination pretty much all year for some Arizonans.

We KNOW about borders and walls/barriers/fences. There is a lot of miles of fencing!
No one (mostly) objects to the way things are now. It works. Mexico is Arizona's largest trading partner.
There is NO pending crisis on OUR borders in AZ!
That's all simple fact.

Now, here's the rub. Some more facts about our wall straight out of our daily newspapers.

Within the last 2 weeks, 3 differing and fairly elaborate TUNNELS were discovered "under the wall" between Nogales AZ. and Nogales, Sonora.
That's fact. It's ALSO a fact, that whomever is motivated to attempt to smuggle contraband INTO AZ can just drive 15 miles (either) east OR west and be completely out in the desert wilderness with NO one in sight. And just WALK across the border with their contraband.
Now I ain't saying they will make it alive and well and un-accosted but they can easily do so at little to no cost. Just the cost of the travel to the nowhere spot along the border to step across the fence.

Why do you think these cartels (whoever!) go to all the trouble and expense to build/dig these smuggling tunnels?
Fact is, they do!

There are several reasons. One is the desert is pretty damn formidable to cross on foot. It's dangerous.
Reason two is, they're LIKELY to be arrested because we citizens employ Border Patrol agents who do just that-----Patrol!
They use technology of all kinds. Infra-red. All sorts of things. The result is that it is easier and much more effective to dig their tunnels. Punch their holes. Climb over where they can. The wall is EASIER to subvert than the desert just west (and some to the East) of Nogales.
That's the real Facts! That's the actual effectiveness of a wall. It's the smuggler's (easy) target to penetrate. It doesn't send an alarm, it doesn't radio BP agents of attempts to penetrate it, it can't even stop and arrest someone trying to get in. In the desert terrain it's nearly useless.

And where we already have it?? Well, it stops the lazy, the un-motivated, the small timers!! For the REAL smugglers, the REAL criminals, the Wall is the weak link!! That's all fact.

And it's why (in any borderland region) the vast majority of our citizenry KNOW the wall's effectiveness and doesn't want to fund more walls.
WE want to buy them more night vision goggles. More (and quicker) transportation to any penetration, MORE technology.

This present impasse resulting in our Gov't's shutdown is irresponsible. It's one man trying to keep an unwise campaign pledge to the most uninformed portion of his voting populace, rather than speaking up and explaining to them that we ALREADY have most of the barriers we need. No wall is necessary, more technology is.

And as a separate point, I will point out the obvious. We NEED an actual serious congressional look at our border policies and immigration LAWS!
They are f'd up! I'm for congress suspending ALL immigration (save for national security NEEDS) until we have a more sense-able and ENFORCEABLE immigration law. That includes a strong re-examination of our asylum law/policy. Asylum should be ONLY for people in REAL danger of harm.

Stop the nonsense!
End this wall shutdown!
1/14/2019 11:54 AM (edited)
The reality is that lost illegal immigrants are visa overstays. A wall doesn’t stop that. Most drugs are smuggled in through ports of entry. A wall doesn’t stop that.

This is the dumbest shutdown. Republicans in Congress don’t even care about the wall, they just don’t want to go against the president.
1/14/2019 12:44 PM
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