Posted by The Taint on 1/29/2019 3:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 2:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 1/29/2019 2:27:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 2:24:00 PM (view original):
We all have government protections. It doesn't give the government the right to intrude on our lives. It should work the same for businesses. It's the government's job to protect.

Okay, I agree that when businesses start taking handouts from the government they have now sold their sole and relinquished their freedoms. This creates crony capitalism and is very dangerous.

You didn't answer the last question.

We all have government protections but there are times when we waive our rights in exchange for something else.

For instance, when you open a bank (or other public accommodation), you give up the right to discriminate against your customers on the basis of religion.

Open a private club or church, feel free to discriminate. Open a bank, restaurant, etc., give up that right.

This brings up another interesting point and shows why your logic is flawed. Government screws everything they touch up. That's a fact. For instance, in effort to prevent discrimination, the government actually discriminates. A good example of this is the Oregon baker.

What did the government screw up there?

On a mini scale. . ask the people in B.C. what they think of government insurance. aka I.C.B.C., which is a monster that feeds on itself. It acts as a collection agent, too. I hagte them and my rates are almost DOUBLE what they would be in Alberta.. and pl.s. never had a fault accident, and no tickets in 30+ years.. Over a million miles .. much more. etc.

Posted by Aldershot on 2/5/2019 3:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 1:44:00 PM (view original):
As a libertarian, I want government out of my life completely. California is now requiring companies to have at least 1 woman on their board of directors by the end of 2019 and must have at least 2 by the end of 2021. Government should not be involved in companies decisions. This is major government overreach.

In 10 years, it will be one woman, one hoh-mo, one transgen, and on and on and on. Shareholders should have the final say. Government has ZErO business meddling in business. SO if I am an American, I open my business in... Eugene, Seattle, anywhere but crazy California. So I totally agree w you. Therefore, can't debate

This SHOULD get overturned, but it's Jerry Brown's legacy of stupid, shortsighted, social-engineering policies that will hamstring this state for the next 30 years. This is just the most egregious (and easily challenged in a court of law) atrocity perpetrated by Governor Moonbeam.

It's a waste of taxpayer money to have all these "laws" passed, challenged, and overturned.

b-l must be so proud of "his" State's lunacy.
The best we can hope for is that everyone with a like mindset moves there, so the rest of us can live using some logic and common sense.

dont worry...in 30 years a lot of stuff will be done by robots and we will have brand new problems and controversey.
all of these arguments can be boiled down to 2 basic world views.
those who wholeheartedly believe we should want govt to produce more equality and inclusion even if at first the " product " could be watered down
and those who are upset at any compromise about merit even if for a good cause.
so much comes down to those 2 world views.

strikeout...you are truly inspirational and an outstanding outstanding person.....your kids are very lucky to have you.
i joined the librarian party.

Posted by Aldershot on 2/5/2019 3:22:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 1/29/2019 2:02:00 PM (view original):
Being publicly traded should in no way give the government say in how a company should be run. These decisions should be left to the stockholders. Government has WAY too much involvement in business and it's constantly expanding.

Being incorporated and publicly traded absolutely gives the government say in how companies are run. That's just a fact of business, regardless of this specific law.

Governments are totally incompetent, therefore have no right to tell people how to run a business. Ethics, yes. Anti bullying in the workiplace laws, yes; but stay out of the boardroom. By the way, Bullies get promoted. their victims get demoted, fired, or they just quit. Man is corrupt from head to toe anyhow..

This is weird.

Governments are incompetent and have no right to tell people how to run a business...except for anti-bullying...and businesses promote bullies...man is corrupt.

Quite a trip you took us on.

Posted by all3 on 2/5/2019 3:41:00 PM (view original):
b-l must be so proud of "his" State's lunacy.
The best we can hope for is that everyone with a like mindset moves there, so the rest of us can live using some logic and common sense.

He does not see it as lunacy. Crazy people don’t know they are crazy.

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/5/2019 6:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 2/5/2019 3:41:00 PM (view original):
b-l must be so proud of "his" State's lunacy.
The best we can hope for is that everyone with a like mindset moves there, so the rest of us can live using some logic and common sense.

He does not see it as lunacy. Crazy people don’t know they are crazy.

Clutch more pearls guys, the idea that a state can regulate a corporation isn't exactly groundbreaking.

I love Eddie Vedder and Pearl Guys...oh, wait!

Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2019 6:17:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by all3 on 2/5/2019 3:41:00 PM (view original):
b-l must be so proud of "his" State's lunacy.
The best we can hope for is that everyone with a like mindset moves there, so the rest of us can live using some logic and common sense.

He does not see it as lunacy. Crazy people don’t know they are crazy.

Clutch more pearls guys, the idea that a state can regulate a corporation isn't exactly groundbreaking.

It doesn't make logical sense. Why should a state tell a Company who should sit on their BOD?

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/5/2019 6:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 2/5/2019 6:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/5/2019 6:08:00 PM (view original):

Posted by all3 on 2/5/2019 3:41:00 PM (view original):
b-l must be so proud of "his" State's lunacy.
The best we can hope for is that everyone with a like mindset moves there, so the rest of us can live using some logic and common sense.

He does not see it as lunacy. Crazy people don’t know they are crazy.

Clutch more pearls guys, the idea that a state can regulate a corporation isn't exactly groundbreaking.

It doesn't make logical sense. Why should a state tell a Company who should sit on their BOD?

For the same reason that states regulate how often boards have to meet--because states have the power to regulate corporate governance.

But should the state not want the Company to have the best possible board? Why are they regulating this? Doesn’t make sense.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 2/5/2019 1:50:00 PM (view original):
It's always heartwarming when you see a kid come from a crappy situation and make it. My adopted son had a biological who was a gang-member and drug dealer. His mom was a piece of crap. He married a girl whose dad wasn't anywhere to be found and her mom was a druggy, prostitute. My son is a sheriff's deputy and his wife is finishing up nursing school. Those are two kids who were destined to fail and yet they overcame their environment.

you are a tremendous person.

No, i'm not. I just hate to see kids suffer. If i'm blessed with the means to help, it would be wrong of me not to.

Posted by wylie715 on 2/5/2019 2:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 2/5/2019 12:37:00 PM (view original):
Correct. Protein is necessary, but meat is not. There are many different sources of protein. My noodles have protein.

are you always giving women a shot of protein from your noodle??? *wink wink*

Lol. Just my wife.

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Posted by strikeout26 on 2/5/2019 12:31:00 PM (view original):
It's not naive. It's the truth. Some people have to work harder than others, but anyone can do it. Saying they can't is naive.

By the way, I pay $19 for a 10 lb bag of boneless, skinless chicken. That comes out to less than $1/piece. As I said, it's cheap.

It's 100% naive.

Some people can lose weight. Most who do, gain it back plus some. Your body sets your fat cell count for life sometime around puberty. If you're unlucky enough to be overweight as a kid, chances are you can never shake it as an adult because you have a high fat cell count. You can shrink the fat cells with a good diet, but not get rid of them. And the fat cells are programmed to want to refill, so you'll literally struggle against biology for the rest of your life. Someone lucky enough to get through puberty without getting fat has a lower fat cell count. They have an easier time avoiding weight-gain as an adult and, if they do gain weight, have an easier time losing it.

Another factor is gut bacteria. There was a obese woman with some sort of nasty infection. She had to take a hard-core antibiotic to deal with the infection and it wiped out her gut bacteria. The doctors transplanted gut bacteria from her daughter (who was not obese) and the woman lost all the weight without changing her diet.

You're giving rare examples. 99% of the people are overweight due to poor diet, lack of exercise and lack of will power. I was super skinny as a kid so I had to work extra hard at the gym to put on weight. I could have stayed skinny. Conversely if I were obese I would work extra hard at dropping LBs by running, biking, sports, weights and a better diet. I don't care if you want to be fat and unhealthy but you should not paying the same for healthcare as I am. You pay more for life insurance. No one is arguing about that. Why?

The fact that that is a rare example isn't the point. The point is we don't fully (or maybe even partially) understand how gut bacteria works in relation to weight gain. Two people with the same diet can have significantly different BMIs due to their gut bacteria composition.

Again, you keep saying "they ate the same diet." Regardless of the cause, some people are prone to put on weight easier than others. People have to tailor their diet to their needs. Everyone can avoid getting fat or lose weight.

I agree with most of what you say on this issue, strikeout, but it is not true that everyone can avoid getting fat. Some people are genetically predisposed to be obese. They can not help it. Admittedly probably a small percentage, but still some people.

I still firmly believe that everyone can control their weight. Will everyone be a size 28 weight? Of course not. Can everyone avoid obesity. I most certainly think so. Some just have to work harder than others. Some have to work much harder than harders. It's the same as anything in life.

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/5/2019 6:44:00 PM (view original):
But should the state not want the Company to have the best possible board? Why are they regulating this? Doesn’t make sense.

You assume there isn't ONE qualified woman?