yes..i agree.

that's why i'm good with the three trimester compromise

first abort at will its birth control, third its almost murder, second its up to the individual or the state or the law or the good book or whatever them and theirs decide

dino and gomiami agree on a political issue.

Water will be turning into blood momentarily.

music soothes our savage souls.

So it’s settled. Nothing was settled. Excellent. Next topic please KO.

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Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/6/2019 9:51:00 PM (view original):
hmm. Both sides are taking an extreme position to me and probably on purpose. That way, the chances of a reasonable compromise become greatly reduced and both sides can claim moral superiority. You see that a lot lately.

no...just showing it is sometimes a gray area even for extreme enemies of choice.
i say it is gray..i am not in any way demonstrating moral superiority...thats why i favor choice.

I wasn't directing towards you. There is a tendancy for this conversation to be pulled in two extreme directions. One says all abortion is evil and the other says all abortion is good just for the sheer hell of it.

I think most people in the country fall somewhere in between. It is the edges of the conversation that claim moral superiority.

Agreed.

southern culture is on the skids.

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Posted by bad_luck on 2/6/2019 4:13:00 PM (view original):
KO, you agree that there are at least some situations where abortion should be allowed, right?

If I concede that the 1% of abortions that pose a legitimate threat on the mother's life are justified, will you concede that the 99% of the other abortions aren't?

No.

I'm trying to see where you draw your line. It's hard to take your claim that abortion is murder seriously if you think it's OK in some situations.

I think abortion is wrong in all cases. If a woman has uterine cancer and the baby dies during treatment, that is quite tragic but it is different than abortion.

So, just to be clear, if you had it your way, there is no situation where you would allow a legal abortion?

Yep.

Oh, but what about rape? Not the baby's fault. Find the rapist and cut off his genitals.

Yeah but that doesn't solve for the fact that you have a pregnant rape victim.

I understand if the mother doesn't want to keep the child. Adoption is the option for this. Don't murder the baby because of it.

Aren't you taking away the freedom of the mother?

No. Freedom to kill the innocent was not one of the freedoms that we were granted. The mother still has all of her freedoms.

This will be last the last thing I say about this topic. It is a sad world when defending those who can't defend themselves is considered extremism. We are heading down a very bad and dangerous road. Hopefully, one day the good people of this nation will stop doing such bad. We've had the mass atrocities on native americans, slavery, and now this. When will our country wake up. We have too many good people for such evil to continue to go on.

Next topic: Formal education

I will go into more detail a little later, but to get the topic rolling I will start with this. With the exception of a few science related fields, formal education in its career state is completely useless. With today's technology and resources, I can learn everything for free that would cost me a minimum of $80 grand in college.

Apprenticeships are a lost art. They are well more beneficial than classroom learning.

Like I say, I will go into more detail later, but lets hear your opinions on the subject.

What do the Evangelical Right have to say about their great friend Israel and it's Universal, Socialistic, Health Care System with it's free Abortion-on-demand?

Not a peep. Only American fetuses matter?

Eliminate the Department of Education and I'm good.

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Eliminate the Department of Education and I'm good.

But, ... but .., Mr. Sanders and all his Socialist friends want to give me FREE college on top of my 1st 12 years. I want FREE, because I'm an American and therefore deserve it. Oh yeah, "FREE" meaning others pay for it instead of me.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/6/2019 9:51:00 PM (view original):
hmm. Both sides are taking an extreme position to me and probably on purpose. That way, the chances of a reasonable compromise become greatly reduced and both sides can claim moral superiority. You see that a lot lately.

It doesn’t really seem that extreme to side with the law as it has been for almost 50 years.